darra Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Just watched it and the opinion of everybody is that it was harsh and as was pointed out correctly why should Forestieris so called reputation have any bearing on the refs decision making. Showed Dawson asking for the card to be rescinded as he "had got away with one" Curtis Davis said same. So again the only person who thought it wasn't a foul was the ref and the person who committed it admitted it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Did his reputation have any bearing on his being sent off? Or did the ref just get it wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 This is the kind of incident that clearly shows there needs to be a rule change. For one of our main men to missing for two hugely important games on the back of a mistake that's so clear to see, is just ridiculous really. Needs looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 take the booking and sending off out of it, the scary thing was that he didn't see Dawson's challenge as a foul! 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertOB Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Is there a precedent for rescinding a second yellow? If there is he may get a reprieve If not I wouldnt expect anything but a ban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Dawson himself said he caught FF and that he got away with it. Whilst you can accept that refs make mistakes during the game, it is not acceptable that we should now be punished again losing FF for 2 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wath-owl Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 It annoys me that some people even use the word 'harsh' to describe the sending off. It's a god damn travesty is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Whatever it is, I personally think it might be good for SWFC. We are not a one man team and this could bind us after a run of some poor results - most would say a draw against Hull is not poor but the last 3 games we should have had a far bigger haul of points for our endeavour. FF out again allows CC to mix things up a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 in the context of this thread "shaking things up" is irrelevant...its not like we don't that every game any way. the point is everyone knows a mistake has been made...and whilst you can accept that during a game. Afterwards we are still going to be punished again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nile Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 has the ref had the balls to speak yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 has the ref had the balls to speak yet? They're not allowed Instant suspension if they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 has the ref had the balls to speak yet? I think they have to wait till Monday. And surely he has to. Bruce....it was a foul. Dawson....it was a foul. Davis...it was a foul. Ref....never touched him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nile Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I think they have to wait till Monday. And surely he has to. Bruce....it was a foul. Dawson....it was a foul. Davis...it was a foul. Ref....never touched him. that's a stupid rule in itself personally i think a ref should have 1 or 2 hours after every game to evaluate his key decisions on his own with no pressures from managers or players, he has the power to change either way if need be. after this he can talk to media and stand on his own 2 feet about his decisions, but his decisions are then final. scrap the long drawn out appeal process and the no appeal rule with 2 yellows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 There was a lot of talk in the media a while ago saying that refs should be available after a game to explain to the media why they made some decisions be it good as well as bad. Might make them and fans understand the game a bit more from the refs perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) There was a lot of talk in the media a while ago saying that refs should be available after a game to explain to the media why they made some decisions be it good as well as bad. Might make them and fans understand the game a bit more from the refs perspective Remember on one MOTD a few years ago a ref did a post-match interview explaining why he gave a contentious decision. Literally everyone in the studio afterwards said "Fair play" and the second he actually showed a bit of humility he got a heck of a lot of respect from everyone where, had he not done that, he would have been slated to high heaven. We need that type of thing encouraged, not discouraged. What's the worst that'll happen? He'll come out and say "I got it wrong", people will be frustrated but ultimately accept that the man in the middle is only human and actually understand where he's coming from, especially if it's then followed by "My view was partially obscured" or something similar. In this instance, Mr Tim Robinson needs to come out and do what happened in the above instance: He got it wrong, he apologises, and would advise the FA to not enforce an unjust ban. The game is over, no-one really minds that Fernando was sent off as it had no impact on the result. The problem is that we've now essentially been cheated out of a player being eligible for two games because of a mistake. Mistakes happen, but you can at least look to rectify that mistake after the initial event. It really is that simple Edited February 28, 2016 by StudentOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmontonowl Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 There was a lot of talk in the media a while ago saying that refs should be available after a game to explain to the media why they made some decisions be it good as well as bad. Might make them and fans understand the game a bit more from the refs perspective Refs are available to managers shortly after then end of the match. I think this makes sense and provides a chance for an exchange of views in a fairly controlled setting. I also think that perhaps making refs available to media might be a mistake. The media can quickly twist things which could ultimately serve to influence future decisions. This would be problematic. In FF's case, I think the ref should tell CC why he thought FF dived and why he made such a quick decision without taking a few seconds to stop and think about what just happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest minsk owl Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 They're not allowed Instant suspension if they do needs suspending regardless , speak or no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 needs suspending regardless , speak or no I think most of us realise what a difficult job refs do - on this occasion everyone involved knows it's a mistake, you would hope even the ref himself now. As mentioned above the thing is he was so intent on booking ff he actually worryingly completely ignored the dangerous challenge and obvious body language of Dawson. A Pre meditated decision it had to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 It is a job but this wasn't even a difficult decision. He had a perfect view and if that wasn't enough there was the body language of all the players. If he doesn't come out and admit his obvious mistake I hope the useless get never refs in the Football League again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiff05 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Just watched the Nuget penalty for Boro, he made a meal of the fall, if it was us, our player would have been booked and no pen given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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