alanharper Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 So they say, about bad decisions / bad luck. But does it really? Some controversial decisions I can recall just from this season, off the top of my head, sure there are others: AGAINST US QPR away - Sougou is clean through, gets brought down for a blatant red card but we don't even get a free kick. Then later in the same game we're also denied a stonewall penalty. Shrewsbury - blatant penalty bottled in injury time, shortly before they break away and score, potentially costing us a huge amount of money from the next round. Preston - FF carded for "simulation", outside the area, when replays indicate he was actually fouled. Garner goes down 4 times, no card. QPR home - late penalty decision bottled by Graham Salisbury who seems to be utterly inept and biased against us every time we get him. Hull - FF carded for "simulation", outside the area, when replays prove he was actually fouled and the defender instantly admitted it with a "sorry" gesture to the ref who ignores him and goes straight for the second yellow. In the same game, Snodgrass blatantly dives at least twice, including an attempt to get one of our players get sent off, and goes unpunished. FOR US Tarkowski of Brentford harshly red carded when replays showed he wasn't the last man. It was definitely a penalty though. Can't think of any more. So I reckon either we're in for a shedload of good fortune in the next couple of months, or the saying is complete bo****ks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 At least we can look forward to our rivals having their star players unjustly sent off two weeks in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani_armo Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 If it evens itself out we'll be going up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 It doesn't though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 We get bad decisions for and against. Last nights was a shocker. All fans think their team get a raw deal from refs in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Shutt is God Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I am still waiting for it to even itself out from 2013/2014 season........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The thing that annoys me is the impact referees can have on a team's points tally. We've hit a sticky patch of form in the last week, but the referees' decisions haven't helped us at all... Just as we're starting to get on top with 25 mins to play against Preston, Forestieri is given his second yellow card, killing our momentum and handing the initiative to the home team. The second yellow is one thing, but the first was for a dive which simply didn't exist. Moving on to the QPR game, Lee is brought down in the box in injury time and the ref just waves play on...a chance to take a penalty which would surely have given us the win if scored goes begging. Then last night, Forestieri is clattered by Dawson, who holds his hands up immediately in anticipation of the ref's wrath, only to see the incompetent fool dismiss our best player for the next two matches, which are against a local rival who will be well up for it and away to a fellow playoff contender. The cumulative effect of these awful decisions within a week's worth of football could be pretty damaging. Hopefully we can use the sense of injustice to fire us up for the next few matches, but I have no confidence that another refereeing disaster isn't waiting for us around the next corner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Hutchinson could have seen red in at least 3 games, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Hutchinson could have seen red in at least 3 games, I think Hutchinson was very harshly carded in at least 3 games( more actually) i know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 I thought it was a thread about things going against us and going for us. Not going down to 10 men and losing one of our best players for 9 matches outweighs the totting up of offences and losing him for 3 games. Either way both him and FF are being prejudged on their reputation rather than the incident on hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 You just don't remember the decisions that go for us because we are too biased. That's all it is It does pretty much even itself out over a season imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 So they say, about bad decisions / bad luck. But does it really? Some controversial decisions I can recall just from this season, off the top of my head, sure there are others: AGAINST US QPR away - Sougou is clean through, gets brought down for a blatant red card but we don't even get a free kick. Then later in the same game we're also denied a stonewall penalty. Shrewsbury - blatant penalty bottled in injury time, shortly before they break away and score, potentially costing us a huge amount of money from the next round. Preston - FF carded for "simulation", outside the area, when replays indicate he was actually fouled. Garner goes down 4 times, no card. QPR home - late penalty decision bottled by Graham Salisbury who seems to be utterly inept and biased against us every time we get him. Hull - FF carded for "simulation", outside the area, when replays prove he was actually fouled and the defender instantly admitted it with a "sorry" gesture to the ref who ignores him and goes straight for the second yellow. In the same game, Snodgrass blatantly dives at least twice, including an attempt to get one of our players get sent off, and goes unpunished. FOR US Tarkowski of Brentford harshly red carded when replays showed he wasn't the last man. It was definitely a penalty though. Can't think of any more. So I reckon either we're in for a shedload of good fortune in the next couple of months, or the saying is complete bo****ks... I reckon the ref giving leeds a goal then taking it off was a good one haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 The thing is it doesn't even it's self out over a season it's just a line that so called "pundits" put out to justify things because they simply cannot rationally explain them!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 How many times has Forestieri dived and not got booked though? That's the evening out. Just a but if a cuunt that he had one go against him when already on a yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebowl Yell Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 You just don't remember the decisions that go for us because we are too biased. That's all it is It does pretty much even itself out over a season imo Too right. Every club in the country has fans that believe the FA has it in for them and the referee's want them to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 (edited) You just don't remember the decisions that go for us because we are too biased. That's all it is It does pretty much even itself out over a season imo No it doesn't, the bigger teams always get the majority of decisions because refs are human and thus prone to outside influence Wether we like it or not.Once technology gets introduced Wether we like it or not and there is a fourth official actually doing something ie officiating which he is paid to and referees have to actually explain their decisions, then and only then will we get clarity. Like it or not (I know I keep using that phrase) but it is coming, especially in the top leagues because there is simply too much MONEY ££££££ riding on it not to. Edited February 27, 2016 by full fathom five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 No it doesn't, the bigger teams always get the majority of decisions because refs are human and thus prone to outside influence Wether we like it or not. Once technology gets introduced Wether we like it or not and there is a fourth official actually doing something ie officiating which he is paid to and referees have to actually explain their decisions, then and only then will we get clarity. Like it or not (I know I keep using that phrase) but it is coming, especially in the top leagues because there is simply too much MONEY ££££££ riding on it not to. You're probably right about the effect of money in the Premiership but that doesn't affect the ebbs and flows of poor decisions in the championship. We are one of the bigger teams in the Championship I'd say so by the logic of bigger teams getting the majority of decisions we should be in credit you'd think. Kate has it spot on IMO, all fans look through specs tinted in the colour of the teams they support. Last nights' was a shocking decision but overall things balance out. This argument has been debated on here for the last few seasons. There is no logic in the claim that we've always had the short end of the stick over all those seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 You're probably right about the effect of money in the Premiership but that doesn't affect the ebbs and flows of poor decisions in the championship. We are one of the bigger teams in the Championship I'd say so by the logic of bigger teams getting the majority of decisions we should be in credit you'd think. Kate has it spot on IMO, all fans look through specs tinted in the colour of the teams they support. Last nights' was a shocking decision but overall things balance out. This argument has been debated on here for the last few seasons. There is no logic in the claim that we've always had the short end of the stick over all those seasons. I'm by no way saying we've had the short end of the stick as it's so easy to cry "I'm the victim" in this society we live in . But to believe the claptrap that it "evens itself" out over a season is such a feeble " easy way out" excuse it beggars belief. SWFC are not the victims but football needs officiating properly for the twentieth century not stuck in the dark ages, cricket, rugby and tennis (all traditional and older sports than football) embrace technology and are better for it WHY CAN'T FOOTBALL??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 No it doesn't, the bigger teams always get the majority of decisions because refs are human and thus prone to outside influence Wether we like it or not. Once technology gets introduced Wether we like it or not and there is a fourth official actually doing something ie officiating which he is paid to and referees have to actually explain their decisions, then and only then will we get clarity. Like it or not (I know I keep using that phrase) but it is coming, especially in the top leagues because there is simply too much MONEY ££££££ riding on it not to. Absolutely!! Anyone who thinks things even out over a season regardless of who the team is, who the manager is, is very very naive at best. Stupid at worst!! Made a similar point in the 'petition' thread. I think we are maybe too nice and get adverse decisions from refs who would think twice about awarding decisions like last night's and @ Preston against manager's like Ferguson & Mourinho, knowing the repercussions and media frenzy it would generate. And yes i do realise neither are currently active at the moment, purely examples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 You just don't remember the decisions that go for us because we are too biased. That's all it is It does pretty much even itself out over a season imo Hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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