theowlsman Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 There are several reasons that spring to mind. Firstly, FFP. Secondly, a colossal price tag puts additional pressure on the player. Thirdly, if the player doesn't justify the amount, Chansiri might doubt Carvalhal and query further investment. Plus, we could get 2/3 quality players for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple O Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 There are several reasons that spring to mind. Firstly, FFP. Secondly, a colossal price tag puts additional pressure on the player. Thirdly, if the player doesn't justify the amount, Chansiri might doubt Carvalhal and query further investment. FFP doesn't really come into it for this year as losses are now to be assessed over a rolling 3yr period at £39m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Plus, we could get 2/3 quality players for that. And you may see cost offset by even higher ticket prices... Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 FFP doesn't really come into it for this year as losses are now to be assessed over a rolling 3yr period at £39m. The 3yr aggregate thing starts next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darklord Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 And we are from Yorkshire. Short arms deep pockets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 FFP doesn't really come into it for this year as losses are now to be assessed over a rolling 3yr period at £39m. One would assume that fans of Forest and the like assumed that they were not going to fall foul of FFP before the rule changes. I have no idea what our finances were last season, but assuming a loss and a large one this season, that'd leave us one year away from being caught in a transfer embargo- something we must avoid at all costs. Just because the rules have been lapsed somewhat doesn't mean we shouldn't be weary and doesn't mean we shouldn't hunt out the very best deals available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 3 year aggregate and no more than £13M loss a season isn't it. But each transfer, take Forestieri on a 3 year contract would only count as £1M a year transfer spend. (I think he's on a 4 year deal but said 3 for the easy maths). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 One would assume that fans of Forest and the like assumed that they were not going to fall foul of FFP before the rule changes. I have no idea what our finances were last season, but assuming a loss and a large one this season, that'd leave us one year away from being caught in a transfer embargo- something we must avoid at all costs. Just because the rules have been lapsed somewhat doesn't mean we shouldn't be weary and doesn't mean we shouldn't hunt out the very best deals available Nah just sign Messi, Bale, Ronaldo. Pogba, Hummels et al, then when we get embargoed it dont matter coz weve got the best squad in the world. Simple this FFP lark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 3 year aggregate and no more than £13M loss a season isn't it. But each transfer, take Forestieri on a 3 year contract would only count as £1M a year transfer spend. (I think he's on a 4 year deal but said 3 for the easy maths). Next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple O Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The 3yr aggregate thing starts next season. Yes sorry you are right of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Agree with the FFP concerns. The fact that clubs who have run rough shod over it are in now having problems is a stalk warning. BUT surely the club know what they can spend? Really don't think we need to worry. Pressure on the player? Don't make me laugh we are talking 6 m not 60m. Not trusting CC and so not backing him again? How will that get us to the prem? Personally I trust Mr C to run our club properly and really really appreciate he is spending his money on our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 3 year aggregate and no more than £13M loss a season isn't it. But each transfer, take Forestieri on a 3 year contract would only count as £1M a year transfer spend. (I think he's on a 4 year deal but said 3 for the easy maths). I might be wrong but I thought it was a £13m loss in total over the 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohgoditsjames Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I might be wrong but I thought it was a £13m loss in total over the 3 years. I thought it was 30 Million over 3 years? 13 Million sounds a bit low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I thought it was 30 Million over 3 years? 13 Million sounds a bit low. Somebody on here will put us right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Is Our City Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 http://mobile.football-league.co.uk/news/article/2015/football-league-ffp-guidance-2632728.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I stand corrected, £39m over 3 seasons after this it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Is Our City Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 How are Derby going to get round ffp this season? They've already spent about £25 million, have they sold any players? They'll need to show a profit of £12 million from the rest of their business to meet ffp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 But factor in the new sponsorship deals (kit kop etc) and increased income from gates tv etc and although our expenditure has risen so will our income. Plus can't owners convert loans to equity or summat? Ten mill loss MrC issues ten mill shares and jobs a good 1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohgoditsjames Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) How are Derby going to get round ffp this season? They've already spent about £25 million, have they sold any players? They'll need to show a profit of £12 million from the rest of their business to meet ffp.Probably why they're so desperate to go up now, hence what seems to be "panic" buying from them this Window, just imagine if they get pushed out of Auto and we met them in the playoff final and beat them. Just imagine the rage! On second thought, even if they do go up and claim the Prize money etc, wouldn't they still of broken FFP? Bournemouth went up but still turned out to of broken FFP. Edited January 6, 2016 by ohgoditsjames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalian Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 On spelling hopefully. One would assume that fans of Forest and the like assumed that they were not going to fall foul of FFP before the rule changes. I have no idea what our finances were last season, but assuming a loss and a large one this season, that'd leave us one year away from being caught in a transfer embargo- something we must avoid at all costs. Just because the rules have been lapsed somewhat doesn't mean we shouldn't be weary (wary?) Agree with the FFP concerns. The fact that clubs who have run rough shod over it are in now having problems is a stalk (stark) warning. BUT surely the club know what they can spend? Really don't think we need to worry. Pressure on the player? Don't make me laugh we are talking 6 m not 60m. Not trusting CC and so not backing him again? How will that get us to the prem?Personally I trust Mr C to run our club properly and really really appreciate he is spending his money on our club. and doesn't mean we shouldn't hunt out the very best deals available Just being pedantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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