sherlyegg Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 The new pricing (pay on day) is outlandish, I tend to agree. But this new owner is a gambler and the sort I like. He's taking a big risk, if we are poo this season he will be in deep baba. But.. if we stick around the top 6 all season, maybe even the top 4 people will turn up, no matter the cost. Maybe not big numbers, say 25k ish, the big games 30/33k ish and a season average of 26.5 If we start poor and play poor, we will be down to 17/18k ish (assuming cat c games are the norm) No matter if he decides to go Cat Z, no one will turn up if we are poo , £10 a game does not work if we are crap, (why do some think 1000's will turn up cos its only a tenner?) with nothing to play for. The mistake I think, imho; the first home game should have been cat E. A full house near enough. If it all goes boobies up, he has made a MASSIVE mistake. So I guess he's making a calculated risk/bet. BTW he does not owe us FA, he's in it for dosh/hobby/passtime/prestige..He really don't give a poo poo about loyal long suffering Wednesdayites, and guess what I don't give a poo poo about his business. But if he does what it says on the can, so what. When he does a runner, sells up or whatever I will still be a Wednesdayite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cersei Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 *hopes dust has settled* *ruffles dust* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) We could have filled the home ends for the first game with sensible marketing. Edited July 18, 2015 by Mr Farrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Dustruffler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1867 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 OP was that supposed to rhyme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 OP was that supposed to rhyme? mary had a lil' pig... she couldn't stop it gruntin'... she took it down the garden path... and kicked it's lil' head in... oh no! i meant c**t... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singing The Blues Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 We could have filled the home ends for the first game with sensible marketing. What type of marketing? Ive been going for 28 years and haven't seen us sell out home ends once for 1st match of season. Unless my memory is playing up, which is quite possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffsteel Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Sherleyegg, You are mistaken. If the team is poor gates will be 16K. If the team is in the top 4 all season then average gates will be 21K. You say people will turn up no matter the cost. So why not make it £75 quid a match or how about £100 a match. A £40 a match even if the team are successful gates will be relatively low. The only time I agree with your argument would be if for a one-off match. If the last match of the season meant possible auto promotion to the PL then even at £45 there would be a 30K demand, however it wouldn't be a sell out. SW hardcore support is only about 18K but there are over 15K floaters/ part timers etc. It's the 15K part timers that the club need to encourage and even with a good team these people won't pay £45 a match. Only my opinion and I could be wrong. At least it's a gamble and the Chairman is seriously aiming for the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Sherleyegg, You are mistaken. If the team is poor gates will be 16K. If the team is in the top 4 all season then average gates will be 21K. You say people will turn up no matter the cost. So why not make it £75 quid a match or how about £100 a match. A £40 a match even if the team are successful gates will be relatively low. The only time I agree with your argument would be if for a one-off match. If the last match of the season meant possible auto promotion to the PL then even at £45 there would be a 30K demand, however it wouldn't be a sell out. SW hardcore support is only about 18K but there are over 15K floaters/ part timers etc. It's the 15K part timers that the club need to encourage and even with a good team these people won't pay £45 a match. Only my opinion and I could be wrong. At least it's a gamble and the Chairman is seriously aiming for the PL. What a crock of poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffsteel Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) We shall see Plonk. It's Sheffield not Leeds or London. Lets hope your confidence reaches fruition. Edited July 18, 2015 by sheffsteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC1867 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) mary had a lil' pig... she couldn't stop it gruntin'... she took it down the garden path... and kicked it's lil' head in... oh no! i meant c**t... Where would C U N T go in that rhyme you bitchassmotherfucker? Edited July 18, 2015 by BC1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 We could have filled the home ends for the first game with sensible marketing. I wonder if his concern is revenue or footfall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Where would C U N T go in that rhyme you bitchassmotherfucker? End of the first line - it should be instead of pig... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vontemp Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Sherleyegg, You are mistaken. If the team is poor gates will be 16K. If the team is in the top 4 all season then average gates will be 21K. You say people will turn up no matter the cost. So why not make it £75 quid a match or how about £100 a match. A £40 a match even if the team are successful gates will be relatively low. The only time I agree with your argument would be if for a one-off match. If the last match of the season meant possible auto promotion to the PL then even at £45 there would be a 30K demand, however it wouldn't be a sell out. SW hardcore support is only about 18K but there are over 15K floaters/ part timers etc. It's the 15K part timers that the club need to encourage and even with a good team these people won't pay £45 a match. Only my opinion and I could be wrong. At least it's a gamble and the Chairman is seriously aiming for the PL. Don't concern yourself with what your superior neighbours do pal, concentrate on watching Pub League football for the 5th year in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallam_stallion Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Sherleyegg, You are mistaken. If the team is poor gates will be 16K. If the team is in the top 4 all season then average gates will be 21K. You say people will turn up no matter the cost. So why not make it £75 quid a match or how about £100 a match. A £40 a match even if the team are successful gates will be relatively low. The only time I agree with your argument would be if for a one-off match. If the last match of the season meant possible auto promotion to the PL then even at £45 there would be a 30K demand, however it wouldn't be a sell out. SW hardcore support is only about 18K but there are over 15K floaters/ part timers etc. It's the 15K part timers that the club need to encourage and even with a good team these people won't pay £45 a match. Only my opinion and I could be wrong. At least it's a gamble and the Chairman is seriously aiming for the PL. Total gonads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Sherleyegg, You are mistaken. If the team is poor gates will be 16K. If the team is in the top 4 all season then average gates will be 21K. You say people will turn up no matter the cost. So why not make it £75 quid a match or how about £100 a match. A £40 a match even if the team are successful gates will be relatively low. The only time I agree with your argument would be if for a one-off match. If the last match of the season meant possible auto promotion to the PL then even at £45 there would be a 30K demand, however it wouldn't be a sell out. SW hardcore support is only about 18K but there are over 15K floaters/ part timers etc. It's the 15K part timers that the club need to encourage and even with a good team these people won't pay £45 a match. Only my opinion and I could be wrong. At least it's a gamble and the Chairman is seriously aiming for the PL. Can't really disagree with much of that. People forget that when we top of the Premier League we only got 16000 for a home game when prices were a hell of a lot more reasonable although the game was on Sky. Our home gates are very much up and down and midweek game attendances we are lucky to draw 20000. How many times have we got 25000 plus for a midweek game that wasnt during the Christmas period. Even our bank holiday attendances have been poor in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Can't really disagree with much of that. People forget that when we top of the Premier League we only got 16000 for a home game when prices were a hell of a lot more reasonable although the game was on Sky. Our home gates are very much up and down and midweek game attendances we are lucky to draw 20000. How many times have we got 25000 plus for a midweek game that wasnt during the Christmas period. Even our bank holiday attendances have been poor in recent years. You can't compare gates now to twenty years ago. Things have completely changed. The reason for poor gates has been poor football. Simple as. Even the most die hard fans have struggled to enthuse. But Cardiff play off final tickets weren't cheap. I honestly believe that if the product is good price will matter less. Oh and a season ticket works out at nine pounds sixty per week according to someone whose bought one. Thats three pints. If you chose not to take up the cheapest option to watch your team whose fault is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 You can't compare gates now to twenty years ago. Things have completely changed. The reason for poor gates has been poor football. Simple as. Even the most die hard fans have struggled to enthuse. But Cardiff play off final tickets weren't cheap. I honestly believe that if the product is good price will matter less. Oh and a season ticket works out at nine pounds sixty per week according to someone whose bought one. Thats three pints. If you chose not to take up the cheapest option to watch your team whose fault is it? The OP put a sensible post on here and because some didnt like the content he got the get t'Lane response. The facts are that if we are doing well we will struggle to average over 25K because of a pricing structure that prices out the market we should be aiming to attract. You seem to think that if someone cant buy a season ticket then the club shouldnt care less about them. So from a business point of view that is a marketing disaster. I have a sister that lives in Cambridge and she might attend three games a season which is 5 tickets per game. Looking at the prices she probably wont bother as it would have cost her £158 to attend the Bristol City game and sit with us as she usually does. I am sure there will be many others that wont bother too. I am certainly not going to put a positive spin on everything this club does if I dont agree with it just because its the club I follow and so far I dont see anything to justify the price hike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan140177 Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Sherleyegg, You are mistaken. If the team is poor gates will be 16K. If the team is in the top 4 all season then average gates will be 21K. You say people will turn up no matter the cost. So why not make it £75 quid a match or how about £100 a match. A £40 a match even if the team are successful gates will be relatively low. The only time I agree with your argument would be if for a one-off match. If the last match of the season meant possible auto promotion to the PL then even at £45 there would be a 30K demand, however it wouldn't be a sell out. SW hardcore support is only about 18K but there are over 15K floaters/ part timers etc. It's the 15K part timers that the club need to encourage and even with a good team these people won't pay £45 a match. Only my opinion and I could be wrong. At least it's a gamble and the Chairman is seriously aiming for the PL. i reckon we'd sell out a promotion deciding game at £45 a ticket, you only have to look at the Wycombe game which was low key in comparison to promotion to the top flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vontemp Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) The OP put a sensible post on here and because some didnt like the content he got the get t'Lane response. The facts are that if we are doing well we will struggle to average over 25K because of a pricing structure that prices out the market we should be aiming to attract. You seem to think that if someone cant buy a season ticket then the club shouldnt care less about them. So from a business point of view that is a marketing disaster. I have a sister that lives in Cambridge and she might attend three games a season which is 5 tickets per game. Looking at the prices she probably wont bother as it would have cost her £158 to attend the Bristol City game and sit with us as she usually does. I am sure there will be many others that wont bother too. I am certainly not going to put a positive spin on everything this club does if I dont agree with it just because its the club I follow and so far I dont see anything to justify the price hike. Ignore that, wrong thread. Edited July 19, 2015 by vontemp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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