ruscol85 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Gray said he was impressed with the link up between May and Nuhiu so can see them starting. Westwood; Palmer Lees Loovens Dielna; Maghoma Semedo Lee Helan; Nuhiu May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl in Manc Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Baker will be in the squad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_Owl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Westwood Palmer Lees Loovens Dielna Maguire Semedo Lee Helan May Nuhiu Substitutes Kirkland Hutchinson McCabe Baker Lavery Maghoma Stobbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWednesdayBoys Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Westwood Palmer Lees Loovens Dielna Maguire Semedo Lee Helan May Nuhiu Substitutes Kirkland Hutchinson McCabe Baker Lavery Maghoma Stobbs This starting 11 for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Can see Baker starting at the expense of Semedo, can't see the lad coming here to start from the bench, he's creative in midfield but can also play a holding role, similar to Mcgugan he gives more options going forward and from set plays . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Can see Baker starting at the expense of Semedo, can't see the lad coming here to start from the bench, he's creative in midfield but can also play a holding role, similar to Mcgugan he gives more options going forward and from set plays . Exactly. Baker will start. Whether it is for Lee or Semedo remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Exactly. Baker will start. Whether it is for Lee or Semedo remains to be seen. Your right mate, possibly in place of Lee, just got a feeling Semedo will be the one on the bench but like you say either really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 ..............Westwood Lee......Lees....Loovens...Dielna Maguire..Baker..Semedo..Helan .......Nuhiu......May Kirkland, Palmer, Hutchinson, Mccabe, Stobbs, Maghoma, Lavery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 ..............Westwood Lee......Lees....Loovens...Dielna Maguire..Baker..Semedo..Helan .......Nuhiu......May Kirkland, Palmer, Hutchinson, Mccabe, Stobbs, Maghoma, Lavery Decent shout that, can't see Palmer not starting at RB though in all honesty . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I would go Westwood Lee Lees Loovens Dielna 　　　Baker Semedo Maguire Helan May Nuhiu Subs: Kirkland, Palmer, HUTCHINSON, Maghoma, Lavery, McCabe, Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 as if Gray will start tampering with the defence unless forced too. Westwood palmer loovens lees Dielna Maguire Lee Semedo Helan Nuhiu May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I would go Westwood Lee Lees Loovens Dielna 　　　Baker Semedo Maguire Helan May Nuhiu Subs: Kirkland, Palmer, HUTCHINSON, Maghoma, Lavery, McCabe, Young Not a lot of defensive strength down that right hand side. Lee isn't really a fullback - he showed that when he played there towards the end of last season. Whay are prople rushing to get Palmer away from fullback? He's young and, therefore, will make mistakes, however, he's steady and part of the meanest back four we've had for decades. Leave Pamer in. Start with the team that started aganst Man City apart from Westwood (if fit) for Kirkland. Baker should start from the bench as he is unproven at this level plus Chelsea may not want him thrown straight in - he hasn't started a single first team game and has only had a few minutes from the subs bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 as if Gray will start tampering with the defence unless forced too. Westwood palmer loovens lees Dielna Maguire Lee Semedo Helan Nuhiu May Beat me to it. This but with Maghoma instead of Maguire. Don't get me wrong, I think Maguire is better than Maghoma but I think that the team that started against Citeh have earned the right to start the next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Westwood Palmer Lees Loovens Dielna Maguire Lee Semedo Helan Nuhiu May Subs: Kirkland, Mattock/Young, Hutchinson/De Haviland, Maghoma, Lavery, Baker, McCabe Nottingham Forest 0-2 Sheffield Wednesday Nuhiu & Lees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loughborough Owl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Westwood Palmer Lees Loovens Dielna Semedo Maghoma Baker Helan May Madine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Not a lot of defensive strength down that right hand side. Lee isn't really a fullback - he showed that when he played there towards the end of last season. Whay are prople rushing to get Palmer away from fullback? He's young and, therefore, will make mistakes, however, he's steady and part of the meanest back four we've had for decades. Leave Pamer in. Start with the team that started aganst Man City apart from Westwood (if fit) for Kirkland. Baker should start from the bench as he is unproven at this level plus Chelsea may not want him thrown straight in - he hasn't started a single first team game and has only had a few minutes from the subs bench. We signed Lee as a fullback and then converted him to right mid and then centre mid. In a way you have pretty much answered your own question e.g. Palmer is young and will make mistakes it is also not his natural position so he is still learning the trade so to speak. If one of those mistakes leads to a goal (e.g. Charlton away) because we are scoring so few goals it can be the difference between winning or drawing a game. You're right to say that he has been part of a very tight defence but that's not just down to the back four the whole team are setup to defend from front to back. I just think that replacing Palmer with Lee will mean even less mistakes and an even tighter defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 lee started his career in midfield. oldham started playing him right back. He's wasted there imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 We signed Lee as a fullback and then converted him to right mid and then centre mid. In a way you have pretty much answered your own question e.g. Palmer is young and will make mistakes it is also not his natural position so he is still learning the trade so to speak. If one of those mistakes leads to a goal (e.g. Charlton away) because we are scoring so few goals it can be the difference between winning or drawing a game. You're right to say that he has been part of a very tight defence but that's not just down to the back four the whole team are setup to defend from front to back. I just think that replacing Palmer with Lee will mean even less mistakes and an even tighter defence. Lee looks out of place as a full back. He got dragged all over the place when he played that position late last season - it appears that he doesn't have the defensive dicipline to play that position because he was tear-arsing all over the place committing to challenges he shouldn't and found he himself incorrectly positioned a few times. Lee is a central midfielder - plain and simple - and a damn good one at that - not a right back nor an outside right (right midfielder). There's a reason that Palmer is getting in at full back ahead of Lee and that is because Palmer is the better fullback - this has been the case when they're both available also. Palmer may make the odd mistake but he is more disciplined than Lee, his defensive decision making is better and he has a better understanding of when to go forward from the defensive position. I haven't answered my own question about Palmer because every single one of our defence has made mistakes this season - should we replace them all with someone else because the replacement plays fantastically well in another position? I think Palmer will develop into a really accomplished player - people ought to stop doubting him. Lee is arguably our best midfielder (he was immense against Man City) but that doesn't mean that he is a better full back than Palmer even if he was purchased from Oldham as a full back. Leave Palmer and Lee in the positions they occupy now. lee started his career in midfield. oldham started playing him right back. He's wasted there imo. Absolutely this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger b*stard Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 1 Kevin Pressman 2 Peter Atherton 3 Ian Nolan 4 Mark Pembridge 5 Jon Newsome 6 Des Walker 7 Guy Whittingham 8 IBenito Carbone 9 David Hirst 10 Andy Booth 11. Regi Blinker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 1 Kevin Pressman 2 Peter Atherton 3 Ian Nolan 4 Mark Pembridge 5 Jon Newsome 6 Des Walker 7 Guy Whittingham 8 IBenito Carbone 9 David Hirst 10 Andy Booth 11. Regi Blinker No Tom Lees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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