B.A Baracus Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Kluivert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Are our player contract negotiations akin to Oliver Twist asking Mr Bumble for more gruel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I'd rather they spurn our interest than turn up and give a half-hearted effort like Bothroyd did. At least it's an honest "no". Onto the next one, Stu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Saw Hirsty jogging through Greno woods today. Make of that what you will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I'd rather they spurn our interest than turn up and give a half-hearted effort like Bothroyd did. At least it's an honest "no". Onto the next one, Stu... Its got to be us that's doing something wrong if we're honest. This must be the fifth or sixth striker to turn us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 If he doesn't want to play for club what do you expect Stuart Gray to do !! There's no point going out signing players Gray doesn't want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlett Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Gray needs to change his aftershave. Paco Rabanne ain't cutting it anymore When I saw Paco Rabanne, for a brief second I thought we'd been back to Real Madrid B team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 No striker wants to sign for a team that doesn't create chances. If someone wants to go on loan they want to do what's right for themselves. Strikers to play where they can showcase their attacking skills. Something they won't be doing here. Kinda agree thats what they might be thinking when they see our recent scoring record. Possibly Vaz Te? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Its got to be us that's doing something wrong if we're honest. This must be the fifth or sixth striker to turn us down. It's the second player Gray has revealed chose to stay and fight for his place - could even be a second attempt for the same player, for all we know. Other rejections have been clubs refusing to let certain players out at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 No striker wants to sign for a team that doesn't create chances. If someone wants to go on loan they want to do what's right for themselves. Strikers to play where they can showcase their attacking skills. Something they won't be doing here. Money talks. Offer enough and they'll come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Money talks. Offer enough and they'll come. Gray said deal was agreed with club - so we did offer enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Kinda agree thats what they might be thinking when they see our recent scoring record. Possibly Vaz Te? Vaz Te is a top player and I think ideal for what we need. Vaz Te for me his best position is out wide rather than an out and out striker. My worry is it's clear Gray is looking for a striker and not a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 It's the second player Gray has revealed chose to stay and fight for his place - could even be a second attempt for the same player, for all we know. Other rejections have been clubs refusing to let certain players out at the time. Nah. More than just two have turned us down - at least four have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Nah. More than just two have turned us down - at least four have. Not for that reason - not that we've been told, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Money talks. Offer enough and they'll come. Thats true but then we would be splashing entire budget on 1/2 summer signings instead of 4/5 just to get them to sign straight away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Money talks. Offer enough and they'll come. Loans don't work like that. You pay a percentage more often than not as clubs are hoping it puts them in the shop window. I'm sure that's about the fourth striker to say no. To me the only answer is we don't create chances. Strikers don't want to come and play to their strengths and we don't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Gray said deal was agreed with club - so we did offer enough. We have to contribute something towards the player wages and I think its up to the player to agree total terms with parent and loaning club. Roger Johnson apparently took a hit to play for us - that could have easily been us or Wolves not making up his salary. I'm just playing devil's advocate but there does appear to be a theme emerging with us trying to sign strikers on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Loans don't work like that. You pay a percentage more often than not as clubs are hoping it puts them in the shop window. I'm sure that's about the fourth striker to say no. To me the only answer is we don't create chances. Strikers don't want to come and play to their strengths and we don't do that. See my reply to wilyfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Loans don't work like that. You pay a percentage more often than not as clubs are hoping it puts them in the shop window. I'm sure that's about the fourth striker to say no. To me the only answer is we don't create chances. Strikers don't want to come and play to their strengths and we don't do that. Could be a number of things ! Players who don't want to relocate , players who think they can fight back into there clubs first 11 Any premiership striker who you could argue may be available for loan has been in or around the matchday squads for there clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWP Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 and blackstock refuses to go to the pigs: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30130607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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