bigdan2003 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Paul Walker â€@Walkerpw 15m Stuart Gray visited Gary Madine before his release, felt it was important to have a chat with him. Gray spent a "good" hour with him #swfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddington Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 http://www.bitc.org.uk/banthebox?gclid=CKPMr7Lo2rwCFeXKtAodPwsA8Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Is it MORALLY right to advertise gambling in the ground? You're opening up a huge can of worms talking about morals in football, I personally find ramming betting down the throats of fans more offensive than someone having a scrap whilst probably reacting to provocation. I almost posted something just like this. Those taking a moralistic position may find difficulty in drawing a clear line that isn't inconsistent and hypocritical when applied to other cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handball_!! Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Wasn't a world beater no, but won every header and considering we seem to enjoy utilizing a target man (Nuhui and now Best) to hold up and allow play to catch up, bringing in the wide men and the furthest forward midfielder into the attack. I think he could do a job in this current set up, until a better player is bought. I would like to see him play in this team just out of interest I'll give you that. And would probably take him over Nuhui every time, but that's not a good thing is it :-) However, when I compare him to the quick, intelligent strikers I've seen play at Hillsbro this past 2 seasons I don't think he's in that class and that's my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Welcome back Gary, as others have said. He's done his time and if he's learned his lesson I wish him all the very best in proving some of the doubters including (including myself at times) wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I agree, but this is his 2nd chance with Sheffield Wednesday ( assuming he's getting one ) Its up to him to take the chance now, but one slip and he's gone for good, Madine is the only one with anything to lose here. But this is where my argument lies Lee. Does it make it ok that we forget about his previous misdemeanors because, as you say 'he wasn't at Wednesday at the time'....? No is the simple answer. He's done things like this before and has had plenty of chances to change his ways. He was stupid enough to flirt with the law until enough was enough and he got sent to prison. Thats not the mentality of someone who i want children to look up to and be a role model to. Thats someone who's completely and utterly brain dead and doesn't appreciate the opportunity he's been given in life. He's a waste of space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Not really. I'm not bothered whether he's a changed man or not - he might be reformed yet still an average player at this level. I only care whether he can help our cause or not. Well he wont have become a better player in prison will he!! Its down to his attitude on and off the pitch, you say he cant have matured much because of it, I would say that this could be the wake up call needed to focus fully on football and improve his game. If it isnt then hes a lost cause anyway. Edited February 20, 2014 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 He wasn't anywhere near a championship class striker when he went to prison and I doubt he's turned into one in the last 10 months or whatever it's been. Bingo! Bet the people posting on twitter were the same ones booing him the last time he was playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) The fact of the matter is that he has not had sufficient game time at Championship level for anyone to categorically say he can or cannot hack it at this level. IMHO <and yes I know I said fact and IMHO in the same sentence :-p> Edited February 20, 2014 by OxonOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Correct me if i'm wrong but.... Convicted for ABH in Carlisle in 2010 and did Community Service Got done for setting a building/car on fire in Carlisle Now this As mentioned, he's had more than enough chances He didnt get done for the fire though, he was accused of it but it didnt come to anything. He fully deserved to go down, especially after his previous at Carlisle and failing to turn up for community service. Perhaps he thought he would continue to get away with it, but at least this may have given him a wake up call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithmetic Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Got done for setting a building/car on fire in Carlisle No, he was questioned but never charged. Just three cases of throwing a punch when out drinking. Keep him off the sauce and he should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 His attitude stunk before he went to prison, I really hope he is a changed man in terms of his attitude and professionalism. I fear though that prison might have only enhanced his 'bad boy' rep if he hangs around with the wrong people. In know way whatsoever should anyone praise him for what he's done and make him feel like a hero because he's certainly not. I have major doubts over him but sincerely hope he turns his career with us around. As for how I rate him as a player, he was good in league 1 but poor in the championship, although he didn't really get a good run of starts to prove himself at this level. Honestly who knows what will happen now, but If the club are going to stand by him, il back that and give him 1 last chance. Anymore crap from him and get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 How ever many he has had, this should be his last chance with Wednesday. A chance to prove himself but strict rules of how he behaves himself and any slip ups then out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Owlstalk where morals are switched on and off like a light bulb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Owlstalk where morals are switched on and off like a light bulb. i hope no one here has epilepsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 This is upto Mandaric. Mandaric knows if he can do the business this season somewhere for the latter part, he is either worth keeping or will sell him on for a fee (both benefit SWFC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Well seeing as our beloved RDSL forum has become somewhat threadbare in recent months I thought I'd give this a try to pass the time that I should be working yep, hopefully get some games this weekend and the forum will pick up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzybmzoo Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Would it be possible for him and Evans to slug it out in Plug once the Welsh Ripper get's released? Neil could organise & film. No reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 But this is where my argument lies Lee. Does it make it ok that we forget about his previous misdemeanors because, as you say 'he wasn't at Wednesday at the time'....? No is the simple answer. He's done things like this before and has had plenty of chances to change his ways. He was stupid enough to flirt with the law until enough was enough and he got sent to prison. Thats not the mentality of someone who i want children to look up to and be a role model to. I agree completely the bloke is a waste of good air and as I said before, one slip and he's done. But it's a relevant point you raise about children and role models. He wont be sacked as it would have happened already if he was going to be, so he now has this chance, and it will be his final chance to become as you say a role model and somebody the kids can look up to, we might not forget these things, but the young ones will. He should now grab this chance and do everything he can to get his name back on kids shirts and be a hero ( lets be honest, make the young fans happy and sooner or later you'll win their dads over aswell ) whether he gets his head down and is willing to work hard enough or not is a different issue though. I hope he does well, but like you I'd be very surprised if it lasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The fact of the matter is that he has not had sufficient game time at Championship level for anyone to categorically say he can or cannot hack it at this level. IMHO Stats from the start of last season up until the end of that December - (i've been kind in the time period of choosing these stats) Derby (A) - 34 mins - Came on as sub - 0 goals Birmingham (H) - 29 mins - Came on as sub - 0 goals Milwall (H) - 58 mins - Start - 0 goals Fulham (H) - 90 mins - Start - 1 goal (pen) Palace (A) - 30 mins - Came on as sub - 0 goals Huddersfield (H) - 45 mins - Start - 0 goals Southampton (A) - 90 mins - Start - 0 goals Burnley (A) - 8 mins - Came on as sub - 0 goals Hull (H) - 25 mins - Came on as sub - 0 goals Leeds (H) - 7 mins - Came on as sub - 0 goals Blackburn (A) - 90 mins - Start - 0 goals Ipswich (A) - 8 mins - Came on as sub - 0 goals Peterborough (H) - 22 mins - Came on as sub - 0 goals Middlesborough (A) - 90 mins - Start - 1 goal Forest (A) - 90 mins - Start - 0 goals Leicester (H) - 22 mins - Start - 0 goals Cardiff (A) - 57 mins - Came on as sub - 0 goals Bristol City (H) - 90 mins - Start - 1 goal Barnsley (A) - 57 mins - Start - 0 goals Charlton (H) - 87 mins - Start - 0 goals Huddersfield (A) - 25 mins - Came on as sub - 0 goals Plenty of opportunities there. Did nothing with them. Thoughts.....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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