Dan™ Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Maybe you can get past insults - I doubt it though. Sorry mate, it wasn't an insult, I was pointing out that your argument re: Walcott is nonsense. You don't begin a career being able to head a ball well, like you might begin a career being able to run fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Sorry mate, it wasn't an insult, I was pointing out that your argument re: Walcott is nonsense. You don't begin a career being able to head a ball well, like you might begin a career being able to run fast. It isn't nonsense. There are comparisons that can be drawn. Walcott's talent was speed, he had to work on his end product. Nuhiu's talent is his height, he had to work on his heading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hatchethazza Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I really dont understand all the vent of frustration aimed towards him. And yes, i'll probably get negged to flip but i don't really care. If everyone in our squad put in his work ethic then we'd be top of the table. We've played brilliant in the last few games, with him included. Maghoma needs to be on the bench at the start of the next mach and antonio starting, because he's the laziest, shittest winger ive seen in a long time. And also palmer had an absolute stinker today. Coz he's bobar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Exactly, so he shouldn't play if he can't do the things he's picked for. He's not meeting the requirements for himself personally or his role within the team. Do you know exactly what he's being picked for? Surely it's not to be a target man? Because if it is, then the player really isn't meeting his requirements... and neither are the coaches. Gerald Sibon was 6'6" wasn't he? Was he also picked for his physical strength and heading ability? Big men can sometimes play with their feet too (not that Nuhiu has proved himself as capable as Sibon did in that regard yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Do you know exactly what he's being picked for? Surely it's not to be a target man? Because if it is, then the player really isn't meeting his requirements... and neither are the coaches. Gerald Sibon was 6'6" wasn't he? Was he also picked for his physical strength and heading ability? Big men can sometimes play with their feet too (not that Nuhiu has proved himself as capable as Sibon did in that regard yet). Sibon met the prerequisite of scoring goals for three seasons in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubled123456 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Obviously having someone capable of converting a high percentage of chances is a big help, but countless teams have shown it is not essential. Jordan Rhodes scored 26 league goals last season but his team seriously flirted with relegation. When we went down in 1990, Atkinson (15) and Hirst (16) managed a healthy return but it was the lack of support from elsewhere that was our undoing as no one else got more than 5. At least, your post has caused some intelligent debate. I see your point, but I have doubts about playing the Mourino way of having 1 striker up front and more or less relying on his midfield players. Edited February 12, 2014 by doubled123456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxley Owl Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 When we signed Nuihu, someone posted a video of him on here. I seem to remember that very few of the goals he scored on that video had anything to do with his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SAMSWFCTAYLOR Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 How can yoy hate the hardest worker in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 At least, your post has caused some intelligent debate. I see your point, but I have doubts about playing the Mourino way of having 1 striker up front and more or less relying on his midfield players. I'm not a big fan of it either, and it won't be suitable for most teams. But it's working for them at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robdylan Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) I think HATE is a strong word. I don't hate him, but I've lost patience with him. I don't agree with the sarcastic cheers, but I can understand the frustration. Although, I sit on the kop and the fans at the back do also encourage him and chant his song. Personally, I'd put Lavery in. He looks sharp, hungry and full of confidence. Although he isn't very experienced, I think he's much more of a goal threat. I've just watched a video of Nuhiu that was posted on here in pre season. It makes interesting viewing, because there's a few nice finishes in it. When we originally signed him, I thought he was great in the air, and he'd score a lot of goals. Now I don't know how strong the league is what he was playing in, but he looks decent in the video with good movement etc. The miss that really sticks out in my mind this season, is his recent one at Millwall. For once, Helan put in an absolutely beautiful cross for him, that looked perfectly weighted, yet he couldn't even hit the target. Which again, if you look at the video, seems very strange. If anyone can spare 9 mins, take a look and then post your thoughts. YouTube - Atdhe Nuhiu Highlights. (can you post links on here?) Edited February 12, 2014 by Robdylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fedor Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Is that the video That Neil put on and all the Athde Apologists said that service was to blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robdylan Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I don't know mate. I've just watched the video about ten mins ago. Are we no longer allowed to post YouTube links on here? Because for some reason, I can't upload the video. It's easy to find though, and I'd like people to re watch it if possible to give their thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam1867 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I don't hate him. It just really gets on my nerves his ability to jump. He gets knocked off the ball like hes not even there. It proved last night, Lavery was battling with there 6ft+ full back, battling down towards the north and it was awesome. Showed how much he wanted it. Not saying Nuhiu doesn't care, he just lacks the basics, hes a centre forward, first job - score goals - second job -make goals - 3rd job - make the defenders job as hard as possible. He just doesn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 People stating nuhui is better than afobe are sniffing something im sure. Both lavery and afobe are kids but you can tell there is something there with both of them. Nuihu looks like a bloke whos never played up front every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wadsgod Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Whatever you say it doesn't change the fact that he's sh@t and I don't hate him, I'm just saying what I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest markowl123 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 He's got no chance here then, I thought he had a good game yesterday. Afobe did nothing except miss a one on one, so the mini-uproar when we was substituted instead of Nuhiu was a bit embarrassing really. He'd probably be my 3rd or 4th top player from last night, after at least Lee and Maguire who were both positive all night again. If Nuhiu just had Maguire's confidence to put his foot through the ball whenever he saw the whites of the goal we'd see a completely different player. PS. If anyone deserves criticism last night it was Palmer, not Nuhiu. completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWednesdayBoys Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Not read the thread but Nuhiu is dog sh*t! Edited February 12, 2014 by TheWednesdayBoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long eared owl Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Noticably won more in the air 2nd half - it was like someone had reminded him how to jump (altho often tall players don't have much of a spring)- As a striker largely ineffective though - not really sure what his strenghs as a player are supposed to be or how we are trying to build him into the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plesh Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) It's alright saying he works hard, but you need a striker to have a bit of nous about him and to run into intelligent positions and to use the ball well when they receive it. I don't actually know what he does, he can't pass, he can't shoot, his first touch is shocking, he's slow, he can't head, I hate to jump on a player and slate them, but we've seen enough of Nuhiu to know he's not going to improve. Edited February 12, 2014 by plesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fedor Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The two posts above have it in a nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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