dunsbyowl Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 What age was Simpson? I can't seem to see it on the posts. 1911 Census Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal M Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Just some additional info. James Monaghan wasn't just blinded at the Somme. According to Tony Matthews' book The Men Who Made Sheffield Wednesday, Monaghan died serving in France on September 15, 1916. I move a lot of concrete on the QVC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Just some additional info. James Monaghan wasn't just blinded at the Somme. According to Tony Matthews' book The Men Who Made Sheffield Wednesday, Monaghan died serving in France on September 15, 1916. I think there was some confusion with someone of the same name in the same regiment who did die - our James survived ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Lest we forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leetheowl Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Fabulous post - well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Can't see it posted. taken from Wiki. William Taylor (1896–1986) was a football and cricket player. He played as Billy Taylor for Durham City, Crook Town and Norwich City before playing First Division football for Sheffield Wednesday from 1919-1922. During the First World War he served with the Durham Light Infantry and became a commissioned officer. He was decorated for bravery in carrying out a successful daylight patrol into the German trenches at the Battle of Arras on the Somme and for digging out men in his section under heavy shellfire. To think what this man was doing in his 20s and what I was doing in my 20s. I drank, messed about, ate curries, was gobby and moody. This fella was digging out his mates from a rat infested, muddy trench. I just don't compare to William. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Thanks MRoyds he's on my list isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 I hope this is the correct DCM citation for WIlliam Collier listed above #hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) I hope this is the correct DCM citation for WIlliam Collier listed above #hero Hero and fine man but reading that makes me sorry for the German Soldiers as well. Whether from Munich or Maltby the suffering on all sides must have been incalculable. Ordinary guys who spoke with a different language. Not coming across as pacifist but worth a thought. Anybody get a chance, try and see the Film, 'All quiet on the Western Front'. Edited November 8, 2013 by M Royds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 A break from the War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 RIP to all those who died for this country. This^^^^^^^ The article brings home the terrible KIA and injured in action rates that everyone who served on the Western Front during WW1. RIP the fallen. Excellent article, very well researched! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 well done dunsbyowl as per mate always interesting reading mate and impeccable timing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GreenGoose Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Lest we forget . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Couple of photos from the United vs Wednesday match in September 1914 - speakers attempting to recruit football supporters at the Lane. (Wednesday won 1-0 BTW!) Edited November 9, 2013 by dunsbyowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 Anyone interested in researching their own Sheffield family in WW1 there is an excellent website at : http://www.sheffieldsoldierww1.co.uk/ and this extensive thread at the Sheffield History website http://www.sheffieldhistory.co.uk/forums/index.php/forum/17-sheffield-during-the-war/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 Jimmy Seed's wartime recollections from "The Jimmy Seed Story" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl Posted November 9, 2013 Author Share Posted November 9, 2013 Just thought I'd share these - couple of embroidered postcards sent back from France by my Gramdma's Uncle during WW1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Is there any records of any fixtures played in the WW2 years?...all the results and line ups are in the "complete record" book that's available in the club shop . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunsbyowl Posted November 10, 2013 Author Share Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) #LestweForget RIP Brave Lads James Maxwell Finlay Wier Vivian Sumner Simpson Not forgetting the countless brave Wednesday supporters & staff who have given their lives for their country #WAWAW. Edited November 10, 2013 by dunsbyowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulsar Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 As we approach Remembrance Sunday and next year's Centenary of the start of the Great War I think it would be fitting that Wednesday erect a lasting tribute at the ground to those brave lads who fought in that horrific conflict. Whether it should include just those who died (all who had left the club), those that were on the books in 1914/18 and also those who latter came to the club after the War had finished in 1918 I hope the club could find a small space (perhaps next to the the Ozzie Owl or Chris Turner Wall of Fame) under the South Stand. I would happily pay for a brick (if that's all they would do?) with one the the players name on. I have complied this list which is probably full of error but it's a start & some photos to illustrate ! Wednesday’s Great War Roll Call Played for The Wednesday F.C. but left before 1914 George Beech b1892 (1896/1904) (see below) Michael Dowling b 1890 (1910/11) – Royal Navy Billy Lloyd b 1884 (1906/13) - Served in York and Lancs Reg. John Lyall b 1881 ((1901/09)Served in Royal Engineers. James Maxwell (1907/8) – Served KIA 27/9/1915 James Monaghan (1913/14) Blinded on Somme. Vivian Sumner Simpson b 1883 (1900/07) Served in Sheffield City Battalion KIA 13/4/1918 Finlay Weir b 1889 (1909/12) KIA 9/7/1918 Playing with The Wednesday F.C in 1914 Harold Bentley b1891 (1909/20) – Royal Field Artillery Charles Bretnall b 1888 (1913/20) Jimmy Campbell b1886 (1911/20) – Called up at the beginning of the war & spent four years overseas. Wounded. Teddy Davison b. 1887 (1908/26) Royal Field Artillery James Gill b1894 (1913/20) Served in Army Sam Kirkman b 1889 (1909-20) – Served in ACS John Lamb b1893 (1912/20) Joined Footballers Battalion. Wounded on Somme (See below) James McGregor (1913/14) – Served in Army Jimmy Spoors b1887 (1908/20) – Served in the Army. Percy Wright b1890 (1910/14) Served in War POW Served in WW1 & Joined the Wednesday F.C. Post 1918 Joe Armstrong b1892 (1921) – Served in the Army Matt Barrass. b1899 (1925/6) – Gunner Royal Artillery Harry (Henry) Anstiss b 1899 – 1926/7 – Navy at battle of Jutland Sid Binks b 1899 (1922/24) Royal Naval Air Service Arnold Birch b1891. (1919/23) 1st Royal Naval Brigade & POW Tom Breslsford b1895 (1924/25) – Served in Army William Collier b1892 (1924/25) Served in Black Watch DCM at Battle of Somme Robert Eggo b 1895 (1919/21) Served in Black Watch – Wounded Frank Froggatt b 1898 (1921/27) Served in York & Lancs Reg. (see below) William Harvey b 1896 (1919/21) Served in Army Duke of Wellington’s Regiment. Wounded at Passchendale (see below) Horace Henshall b1889 (1922/23) Served RNAS Harold Hill b 1899 (1924/29) – Served in Machine Gun Corps. Fred Keen b 1898 (1920/28) - Royal Naval Division Jonny McIntyre b1895 ((1920/22) Served in Royal Flying Corps Harry O’Neill b 1894 (1919/22) – Served in Royal Navy Percy Reed b1890 (1919/21) Served in Royal Navy Jimmy Seed b 1895 (1927/31) Served in the Army. Gassed. (see below) George Shelton b1899 (1920/22) – Served in the York and Lancs Andrew Smailes b 1895 (1922/23) – Served in the Army William Taylor b1896 (1919/22) – Army Officer William Walker b. 1893 (1923/24) Served in the Army George Wilson b1892 (1920/25) Served in Army awarded Belgian Medal of Honour Photo of George Beech in Footballer's Battalion Photo of John Lamb (Back Row 1st on left) with Footballers Battalion & Tommy Cup Portrait of William Harvey Frank Froggatt's Medal Card & Medal Jimmy Seed's Military Papers & Report of Injury during gas attack 1912/13 Team Group This photo dates from 1912 & includes 5 players who served in WW1 Back Row Ted Worrall b1891 Teddy Davison b. 1887 (1908/26) Royal Field Artilery Jimmy Spoors b1887 (1908/20) – Served in the Army. Middle Row Tom Brittelton b 1882 Finlay Weir b 1889 (1909/12) KIA 9/7/1918 Jimmy Campbell b1886 (1911/20) – Called up at the beginning of the war & spent four years overseas. Wounded. Patrick O’Connell Front Trainer – Davis Sam Kirkman b 1889 (1909-20) – Served in ACS Ted Glennon David McLean Andrew Wilson George Robertson – Worked in Munitions Fcatory Trainer Kinnear 1913 Team Back Row Trainer Davis, Billy Lloyd - Served in York and Lancs Reg. Tom Brittleton Teddy Worral Teddy Davison Jimmy Spoors Patrick O’Connell James Campbell Trainer Kinnear Front Row Laurie Birkinshaw Sam Kirkman Ted Glennon David McLean Andrew Wilson Percy Wright - Served in War & POW 1913 team Ted Glennon James Gill b1894 (1913/20) Served in Army Jimmy Spoors Bob Mc Skimming Tom Brittleton Teddy Worral Jack Birkinshaw Jimmy Campbell James Miller Percy Wright Teddy Davison Just to fill in a bit of detail my grandfather Sam Kirkman enlisted in the Army at the outbreak of war in 1914. He was posted to the Army Service Corps and served in France as despatch rider. He turned out for Wednesday a few times when he was home on leave. In the books he is listed as being injured whilst serving in the desert in 1917, but the family know that he was badly gassed at the Somme and was never the same after that. His Wednesday career ended in 1919 when he was part of the clear out after relegation. Outstanding input guys! Puts yesterday well and truly in perspective. I've just one question, who the Hell is SPURRt? And why would he neg these posts? I sometimes despair at some human beings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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