Guest Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I agree in part - the bit in bold I felt we should have brought Maghoma on and moved Palmer to RB. And just carried on as we were. But you can't be serious in suggesting that the referee wasn't 50:50 responsible for that result - he was awful too The tactics meant that the performance of the referee came into play. Had we been more positive the referee would have got stick but probably wouldn't have been a major factor in the result. SWFC cannot influence how the referee performs but the management/coaching staff dictate how the team plays - they got that badly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 spot on post Bruce how do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Don't get me wrong - I was furious at our 2nd half tactics - theres no way we should be playing 4-5-1 in a 2nd half when we are 2-1 up against poor opposition. But you can't deny the penalty we should have had - theres no way the penalty they got was more of a penalty than Antonios. We should have buried this game though Millwall were flipping AWFUL We should have gone for a third and a fourth at home vs this team and kick started the season Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Owl Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 It's his smugness on the radio that annoys me! He says wee didn't play well, but the reason why was because of his tactics... It's never his fault, oh he is a scouser aint he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The tactics meant that the performance of the referee came into play. Had we been more positive the referee would have got stick but probably wouldn't have been a major factor in the result. SWFC cannot influence how the referee performs but the management/coaching staff dictate how the team plays - they got that badly wrong. agreed again We should have buried this game though Millwall were flipping AWFUL We should have gone for a third and a fourth at home vs this team and kick started the season Completely agree - 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Linesman gave theirs Linesman didn't give ours Nowt to do with Ref...! If Antonio spent less time looking for penalties he might get the odd one...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Had to listen to the game but missed most of the first half. What I don't understand is were we fairly poor all game, or did we play pretty well 1st half then were awful once the formation was changed?Jones seem to imply we didn't play well all game, which I can kind of see why we might try and shore things up and just take a 2-1. But if the performance was good 1st half and the changes ruined it, then that is a mindboggling decision from Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 how do you know? Cos I'm always right X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Had to listen to the game but missed most of the first half. What I don't understand is were we fairly poor all game, or did we play pretty well 1st half then were awful once the formation was changed? Jones seem to imply we didn't play well all game, which I can kind of see why we might try and shore things up and just take a 2-1. But if the performance was good 1st half and the changes ruined it, then that is a mindboggling decision from Jones. I thought we were ok for the first half hour then sat back til half time - and were awful after we went 4-5-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 4-5-1 can work when teams are ahead, sit back and hit teams on the counter. But we are seemingly awful at it, Jones has gotta realise that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 may not have gone grandad but I have ears and eyes mate,and I am not stupid ,but if it upsets to much i'll refrain from commenting ,with one last sentence you can't rely on penalties to win games , now ask daz and others that don't go the same question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Flange Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 We should have buried this game though Millwall were flipping AWFUL We should have gone for a third and a fourth at home vs this team and kick started the season Exactly, and these are the must win games. We should have battered that shower!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Jones taking responsibility for not winning that game is a very long shot. Its painful to watch us self destructing and know its going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 It was Dave Jones fault linesman flagged for penalty blah blah blah. Remember!!! It's Dave Jones who put us in Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 may not have gone grandad but I have ears and eyes mate,and I am not stupid ,but if it upsets to much i'll refrain from commenting ,with one last sentence you can't rely on penalties to win games , now ask daz and others that don't go the same question Ive no problem with general comments from people who haven't seen anything - but specific comments about specific incidents are ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 It was Dave Jones fault linesman flagged for penalty blah blah blah. Remember!!! It's Dave Jones who put us in Championship. So you thought his tactics were spot on today then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 No good blaming the Officials for rank awful tactics. The Antonoi affair was too afr away for me to judge, but we cannot argue against the penalty given to them. Semedo puuled their player away IMMEDIATELT IN FRONT OF THE LINO who quite rightly signalled a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 You can argue the to$$ about Jones' negative tactics, the re-signing of Prutton and Coke, the lack of money for new signings. In fact you can argue the F**king To$$ about anything you Bloody want but at the moment we are side who play percentage football because that's all we can play because of the quality (or should I say lack of quality) of the players at DJ's disposal. Quality costs money. We don't have any. It seems sometimes like we never have had given all the Sh!t and struggles that we have had over the years. So we are where we are playing percentage football. Playing for corners, free kicks & throw ins. Trying to get Antonio on the shoulder of the last defender for the ball over the top. When you play this type of football you need to get a lot of decisions in your favour from the officials but we all know there's sweet fanny adams chance of this happening? So we are in limbo until things change whether it be a change of manager (which I think personally would be a mistake), DJ hitting on a better balance in formation and play than there is at the moment or Investment from the top whether it be from MM or a change of ownership? As long as we avoid the catastrophic losing runs of last season then I think we'll finish higher than last season but nothing will change dramatically IMO unless one of the above happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 maybe so mate maybe so but I am not the only one who wasn't there and made the same points as i have therefore they have seen very little also ,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrbluesky Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I agree in part - the bit in bold I felt we should have brought Maghoma on and moved Palmer to RB. And just carried on as we were. But you can't be serious in suggesting that the referee wasn't 50:50 responsible for that result - he was awful too He had nothing at all to do with the result we created our own downfall, the ref is always going to be the scapegoat when we are poo . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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