airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 If the majority of those sign, it would give us the continuity in the base of the squad to add the 4 or 5 players that we need rather than wholesale change. Can't agree more - we were almost found out at the end of last season when we lost Antonio, JJ etc. We need solid, committed players to form the basis of the squad, which most of them on the list are. Question is whether MM funds the addition of players who will enhance the squad to one which can compete throughout the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aj_owl Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Suprised at Coke and Prutton we need better in order to progress, i would maybe have expected to retained one at most (probably Coke). Coke, Prutton, Semedo, Palmer, Lines, Corry and Mccabe all on the books with the prospect of only Lines and Semedo moving on probably spells the end of a good creative midfield signing we so desperately need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fife_owl Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I suppose we can just pretend that our form for the last six months wasn't actually all that good to feed our habit of woe and constant change. And as for the lousy first four months, half of those offered new deals hardly played a minute between them, and another spent a good deal of it on the bench. As long as we bring in a few players of better quality I see the sense in retaining at least 5 out of the 6. The only question mark would be whether it's necessary to keep Prutton AND Coke, rather than just one of them. Sensible posts are never going to catch on, you know.We need to completely overhaul the squad whilst keeping the promotion players at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Can't believe Miguel Llera had a leaving party and may now stay. A bit cheeky if you ask me. If he got any presents, he should definitely give them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 I suppose we can just pretend that our form for the last six months wasn't actually all that good to feed our habit of woe and constant change. And as for the lousy first four months, half of those offered new deals hardly played a minute between them, and another spent a good deal of it on the bench. As long as we bring in a few players of better quality I see the sense in retaining at least 5 out of the 6. The only question mark would be whether it's necessary to keep Prutton AND Coke, rather than just one of them. You ignore the fact that change was often needed - not desired. Changes were made because they had to be. It would be a mistake to assume the same team that finished our season would repeat that form throughout the next campaign. Half of it wasn't ours anyway. Six of the clubs we'll face will be different, and most other teams will ring changes to address problems and seek improvement. Despite some good results, we weren't playing that well - often struggling to create and score. Prutton and Coke did not play their way back into the team on merit either; McCabe and Corry lacked experience, Lines and Semedo struggled to make the step up. They were next in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 God help us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 This article tells me we're going down. This statement tells you nothing, it's how the players and /or the agents respond that gives you a steer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 You ignore the fact that change was often needed - not desired. Changes were made because they had to be. It would be a mistake to assume the same team that finished our season would repeat that form throughout the next campaign. Half of it wasn't ours anyway. Six of the clubs we'll face will be different, and most other teams will ring changes to address problems and seek improvement. Despite some good results, we weren't playing that well - often struggling to create and score. Prutton and Coke did not play their way back into the team on merit either; McCabe and Corry lacked experience, Lines and Semedo struggled to make the step up. They were next in line. Which is why I expressed a desire that we bring in a few players to improve on what we have. But it's interesting after the consensus of last season was apparently that we changed too much, too quickly that some seem to advocating something of a repeat. I would anticipate that Coke and Prutton are earmarked for reserve roles and that Semedo and Lines will be shopped around for potential exit. Similarly at centre back, I imagine Llera will compete with Taylor to be on the bench behind a new, younger arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Which is why I expressed a desire that we bring in a few players to improve on what we have. But it's interesting after the consensus of last season was apparently that we changed too much, too quickly that some seem to advocating something of a repeat. I would anticipate that Coke and Prutton are earmarked for reserve roles and that Semedo and Lines will be shopped around for potential exit. Similarly at centre back, I imagine Llera will compete with Taylor to be on the bench behind a new, younger arrival. so you dont think we will stagnate then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Has Adam Davies been released too? I thought he was only on a contract that ran to the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Dave Jones ''I'm a builder stagnater'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 If having experienced back up means that we can get some of the younger players out on loan, then brilliant. Bring in 5 or 6 quality additions and those not quite ready for regular championship football can get experience elsewhere. Palmer, Corry, McCabe, Mayor and even Madine, are better off playing games in the First Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshTheOwl Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 No surprises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 'All we should do is make a few quality additions (plus replace the rest of the squad). Achieving both is impossible, only achieve one and I will criticise (not bothered which)'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Distraught! Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Dave Jones ''I'm a builder stagnater'' Davey Jones "I'm a believer". (No doubt in my mind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taff_Owl Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm hoping for a first choice midfield of *** and McCabe, with Palmer, coke and pruts pushing them all the way. Can only see Corry out on loan again, which if he's on a 3 year is a bit of a story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 If having experienced back up means that we can get some of the younger players out on loan, then brilliant. Bring in 5 or 6 quality additions and those not quite ready for regular championship football can get experience elsewhere. Palmer, Corry, McCabe, Mayor and even Madine, are better off playing games in the First Division. Palmer must have forgotten what Hillsborough looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 We have to have a deadline, we need to know as soon as possible what we will have to bring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box_Man Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'd be happy if they all stayed The last 25 games we've got 43 points to get anywhere in this league you have to show consistency barr Bywater the other 5 all contributed in a positive way in the second half of the season. Wholesale changes is not the way to go unless you throw loads of cash at it which is not oing to happen We could loan the youngsters out and still have strength in depth within the squad. Moving on Lines, Semedo and O'Grady for cash should help us bring in a few more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkoston Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 so you dont think we will stagnate then You're getting boring now. you need a new word of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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