@owlstalk Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Both hailed as total heroes when they came to the club It wasn't just Dave Jones that got it wrong with these two - the fans also did Easy to level stuff at the manager whilst forgetting that the fans also thought Rodri and Bothroyd were the answer when they came to SWFC Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Technically gifted but Bothroyd showed no signs of promise and yet still got games ahead of players that would normally put their heart and soul into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Technically gifted but Bothroyd showed no signs of promise and yet still got games ahead of players that would normally put their heart and soul into it. Irrelevant My point is that the fans hailed both signings as the answer just as much as DJ thought they might be Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Difference is we pay to watch. Jones is paid £300k ( just a guess) to pick players, motivate them and come up with the tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Difference is we pay to watch. Jones is paid £300k ( just a guess) to pick players, motivate them and come up with the tactics. Irrelevant to the point Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 He's the manager it's his job to know more than us. Plus we realised a lot quicker than him that Bothroyd was poo . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Bothroyd scored a hatful in this division as a striker a couple of seasons ago, yet Jones insisted on playing him out wide in the majority of his games. Rodri had loads of potential which he showed flashes of, but wasn't given enough games by Jones to fulfil it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Other thana Rodri, Bothroyd, Pecnik, COG, Batth, Wickham, Beevers, Mattock, Mayor, Sidibe, Taylor and Amado, Jones has got the majority of decisions bang on re players this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrelSlingshot Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 The decision to bring in Borthroyd wasn't a bad one all things considered; a player Jones has worked with before and a player whom he has managed to get good performances out of at this level. However, where Jones can and should be criticised re: Bothroyd, is his refusal to drop him despite the the fact it was evidently clear it wasn't working out around 4 games into his loan spell. Instead he persisted with him for 3 months, while better performers were relegated to the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MinsOfTimeAddedOn Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 (edited) Both hailed as total heroes when they came to the club It wasn't just Dave Jones that got it wrong with these two - the fans also did Easy to level stuff at the manager whilst forgetting that the fans also thought Rodri and Bothroyd were the answer when they came to SWFC Managers do have all sorts of advantages on fans though. Scouting, talking to players before signing them, canvassing other pros on reputations. Loan players of Barca / Prem pedigree will excite fans. Managers are in a privileged position to put more information and knowledge into their judgments. Edited April 27, 2013 by 4MinsOfTimeAddedOn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D T Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Rodri and Bothroyd are players that didn't fit in with with Jones' tactics at the time of our downward spiral. Hardly the fans fault. We had no plan B, the buck rests at Jones' door for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 both players have undoubted technical ability. Rodi left because he failed to settle into the culture, and he ended up the scape goat for our goal leakage throghout the autumn. Bothroyd again, was the right player at the wrong time. The fact that he's a wee wee tail off the pitch is as irrelavent as madine. This season has been like a bad experiment in terms of tactics, players and style - we have come up woefully short, and the fans aren't to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TC OWL Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Both hailed as total heroes when they came to the club It wasn't just Dave Jones that got it wrong with these two - the fans also did Easy to level stuff at the manager whilst forgetting that the fans also thought Rodri and Bothroyd were the answer when they came to SWFC He came before I joined this forum but I Knew Bothroyd was lame from the off. He had one good season at Cardiff. That's it. He's been a passenger at every other club he's played for and has had a poor goal tally to boot. My mate is a QPR fan, he told me that QPR fans called him a lazy sod, but he thought he'd do a job for us. Obviously he was wrong. I knew nothing about Rodri, so can't comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 He came before I joined this forum but I Knew Bothroyd was lame from the off. He had one good season at Cardiff. That's it. He's been a passenger at every other club he's played for and has had a poor goal tally to boot. My mate is a QPR fan, he told me that QPR fans called him a lazy sod, but he thought he'd do a job for us. Obviously he was wrong. I knew nothing about Rodri, so can't comment. That's yourself I'm talking 'in general' the Owls fans were celebrating both's arrival as though they were the answer This season has been like a bad experiment in terms of tactics, players and style I would say that sentence sums up the season 100% perfectly Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big john Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 That's yourself I'm talking 'in general' the Owls fans were celebrating both's arrival as though they were the answer I would say that sentence sums up the season 100% perfectly Did the question involve which player could we sign who would slag fans off on twitter and be a handy utility player In which case the fans and DJ got it right. Bothroyd was the answer So Neil the fans and DJ were all right I do love a happy ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Mamas goal at Bolton might save us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 The decision to bring in Borthroyd wasn't a bad one all things considered; a player Jones has worked with before and a player whom he has managed to get good performances out of at this level. However, where Jones can and should be criticised re: Bothroyd, is his refusal to drop him despite the the fact it was evidently clear it wasn't working out around 4 games into his loan spell. Instead he persisted with him for 3 months, while better performers were relegated to the bench. and took the place of a player who was on form and had done nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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