sten Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 The law is clear then. Next time there's a flair or smokie goes off at a match an mi asthma kicks off, I'm suing. Ker-ching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaton_Swfc Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 maybe along with the smoke and the flares we could introduce nazi salutes and racist chanting be proper ultras Idiot post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 maybe along with the smoke and the flares we could introduce nazi salutes and racist chanting be proper ultras Yes because that's not out of context with this conversation at all is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 Idiot post. Your home made smoke bombs one could be seen as incitement to be fair... Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Idiot post.why he cited dutch, polish, italian and german ultras all groups that have had associations with neo nazi salutes and or racist chants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Yes because that's not out of context with this conversation at all is it?so what are you saying that the flares and smoke are set off by one set of "ultras" and the neo nazi racist stuff is done by an entirely different set of them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 so what are you saying that the flares and smoke are set off by one set of "ultras" and the neo nazi racist stuff is done by an entirely different set of them ? You know... this is what grates me. So you think that all of these European ultras are neo nazis? Is that what you genuinely think and do you think that when there were smoke bombs at Sheffild Wednesday games people did it because they believed in these extreme political views too? Nope... they did it as an attempt to improve the atmosphere. I think you know what point im trying to make, and its the fact that throughout Europe the atmospheres are incredible compared to England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveJonesBarmyArmy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Health and safety gone mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 You know... this is what grates me. So you think that all of these European ultras are neo nazis? Is that what you genuinely think and do you think that when there were smoke bombs at Sheffild Wednesday games people did it because they believed in these extreme political views too? Nope... they did it as an attempt to improve the atmosphere. I think you know what point im trying to make, and its the fact that throughout Europe the atmospheres are incredible compared to England. but it didnt did it Did it improve the atmosphere when they were being chucked round at Leicester .......no Did it improve the atmosphere when one was chucked either at the lino or on to the edge of the pitch at S6 the other week .........no Ive yet to understand how choking smoke improves anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 but it didnt did it Did it improve the atmosphere when they were being chucked round at Leicester .......no Did it improve the atmosphere when one was chucked either at the lino or on to the edge of the pitch at S6 the other week .........no Ive yet to understand how choking smoke improves anything That is arguable. But the evidence is there for all to see. Just tap into many of the European games where pyro is used. Even in Australia and USA it is regularly seen. When done properly without the fear of being asdaulted you wouldn't get them being thrown at people where I agree it could be dangerous. And, basically the fact that you don't personally like them has lead you to create the argument that the ones who let them off are all neo nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepcar_lights Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 (edited) Tom Carr ! ..... Seems to work well in Europe, with the flares etc. You literally cant take a sh!it at the match these days. If its not a camera in your face or someone yelling at you to sit down. So basically, pay uour money, sit down and be quiet. gonads. Edited April 24, 2013 by oi_you_owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaton_Swfc Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Your home made smoke bombs one could be seen as incitement to be fair... ... Or sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 (edited) No but remember Eaton, the police monitor these boards so that they can prosecute you for 'incitement'. They will take you down by swat team now, id flee the country before its too late. The police sarcasm detector has been turned off for a while me thinks. Edited April 24, 2013 by TheEnchanter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Is anyone watching the Dortmund Vs Madrid game. Insane atmosphere... and were those smoke bombs I saw just before kick off. Surely not!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 That is arguable. But the evidence is there for all to see. Just tap into many of the European games where pyro is used. Even in Australia and USA it is regularly seen. When done properly without the fear of being asdaulted you wouldn't get them being thrown at people where I agree it could be dangerous. And, basically the fact that you don't personally like them has lead you to create the argument that the ones who let them off are all neo nazis. no it really hasnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Did we need smoke last season against Wycombe ? I merely ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 no it really hasnt Fair enough. Your response was clearly well thought through and presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harry the Owl Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 the fact is neil and his cronies at the club wnnt be happy till all games are played behind closed doors You're often overlooked by many who dont' spot it - but you really truly are a comedy genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harry the Owl Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Did we need smoke last season against Wycombe ? I merely ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl-zat Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 flipping daft some of these. Attempting to enter: You are NOT attempting to enter the ground if you are at the train station or in the car park. flipping ridiculous. 3 month jail sentences for being in possession of a smoke bomb?! When the jails are overcrowded and there are people out there committing REAL crimes getting let off. Under 18s can't be arrested for purchasing smoke bombs etc until they enter the ground?! Why not arrest them anyway and say they were attempting to enter the ground?! If that's what happens with others. Reasons like these are part of why people don't like the bill and the justice system. It does say "In possession of a ticket" so to be fair why else would you have a smoke bomb in your pocket and on our way of a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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