Guest Sweet&TenderOwl Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) Milan missed the boat to save our season and freshen things up whilst we were on our last losing run. A new man if brought in around that time, would've had plenty of time to assess the squad. Now, we're stuck with DJ and we've got no money to spend in January. Other teams in trouble have made positive changes to freshen things up and we will rue sticking by the manager whilst we were on one of our worst ever runs in our history. The recent run before Burnley might have bought DJ some more time and restored some faith. But look at the opposition, we have only beaten one top half side all season and at the time they were below us and struggling. We can't keep setting up defensive at home, sitting back, lieing down against stronger teams and throwing points away. Out of the remaining games we have left, how many are against bottom 6 or bottom half sides? And will points against just those teams be enough? That is one of the things thats going to cost us at the end of the season. All the other teams around seem to be to pick up surprise bonus points against much stronger opposition and top half sides, whilst we set up defensive and lie down against most of those teams. MM is going to rue not spending more back in the summer and not getting rid of DJ whilst we were on our bad run. Meanwhile, Di Canio a passionate up and coming manager, who looks set to make it to the top, is doing a great job at little Swindon under a transfer embargo. MM has missed the boat, I'm grateful to him for saving us and getting us up but the lack of ambition will cost us when we go back down and face losing more money. Edited January 2, 2013 by Sweet&TenderOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gaffer Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I dont no if I trust DJ to spend what little money he will have at his disposal wisely. Kirkland, Lee, Mattock, Taylor, Gardner, Pecnik, Mayor, Corry, McCabe, Maguire, Rodri, Sidibe, Bothroyd, Helan Excluding Antonio who was Megson's signing, and Barkley who has now gone back. How many of the above have been a success, 3 or 4 at most (Kirkland, Gardner, McCabe, Helan?) The rest havent had a look in or are simply not good enough. We should have pushed the boat out for Batth and Treacy when we had the chance. Were in need of at least 3 top signings in order to have a chance of staying up. Rumour has it Peterborough could be set to sign Nick Powell & Aaron McLean-there the types we need. MM needs to dig deep, put a couple of million on the table and then recoup it as/when we shift the current lot out, otherwise were only goin one way im afraid. The performance against Burnley was as poor as ive seen- no ideas, no invention, we just stood off, never got in their faces or pressed the ball, and made an average side look like world beaters. Very frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sweet&TenderOwl Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) I dont no if I trust DJ to spend what little money he will have at his disposal wisely.Kirkland, Lee, Mattock, Taylor, Gardner, Pecnik, Mayor, Corry, McCabe, Maguire, Rodri, Sidibe, Bothroyd, Helan Excluding Antonio who was Megson's signing, and Barkley who has now gone back. How many of the above have been a success, 3 or 4 at most (Kirkland, Gardner, McCabe, Helan?) The rest havent had a look in or are simply not good enough. We should have pushed the boat out for Batth and Treacy when we had the chance. Were in need of at least 3 top signings in order to have a chance of staying up. Rumour has it Peterborough could be set to sign Nick Powell & Aaron McLean-there the types we need. MM needs to dig deep, put a couple of million on the table and then recoup it as/when we shift the current lot out, otherwise were only goin one way im afraid. The performance against Burnley was as poor as ive seen- no ideas, no invention, we just stood off, never got in their faces or pressed the ball, and made an average side look like world beaters. Very frustrating. Aye, very few of the players we've brought in this season and back in the summer have been successes. The Burnley game, performance and result, isn't what worries me most though. We've seen many of those performances and had far too many of those results this season already. The rot has been there for far too long. The recent good run before it did very little, and didn't restore my confidence. Those points came against very poor struggling sides. We can't afford to just throw points and games away in our situation. And I can't see much happening in January, we will be scouring the bargain basement and loans. We need players to leave and we ain't got no money to compete. The writing has been on the wall since the summer and ever since our last very poor run. Even despite the recent mini run before Burnley, I still can't see us having enough about us to stay up. Whist the likes of Peterborough and Ipswich, etc will have done things to freshen up their survival bids, we're just going to sit on our hands with our heads in the sand just hoping for the best. Edited January 2, 2013 by Sweet&TenderOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northstandowl1977 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 A new man if brought in around that time, would've had plenty of time to assess the squad. Now, we're stuck with dj and we've got no money to spend in January Assess the squad for what? If we had brought in a new man we would have even less than no money to spend in January We should have pushed the boat out for Batth and treacy when we had the chance Push the boat all you want wolves didn't want to sell Batth and he didn't want to sign for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Happy new year to you guys too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest intercity0wl Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 We can't keep setting up defensive at home, and throwing points away.the lack of ambition will cost us Have always tried to defend DJ, but how many times is one expected to watch an already defensive minded squad be set up, and sent out at Hillsborough to play like we are the away Team, then we get DJ ladt night saying we were a bit flat, well im afraid Dave to get things to rise from flat you have to add a different ingredient and mix the flatness out of it, after yesterday im sadly becoming as concerned about the cook as i am his ingredients, never seen a Wednesday HOME side set up as defensive minded in my life, but its becomming the norm at S6 Was only a few weeks ago when People were getting excited, with MM comming out with his regulat pre window waffle, "we will not go down" "i will be backing the manager" ect ect, and others on here were saying they felt better after hearing that, and that I was being too negative when i said, "he's said it all before", he wont, he never does, he would have to break the habbit of a life time, and so on, yet yesterday it had gone back to we have no money, players need to leave first, Bla Bla Bla Im sadly starting to do what many have done for a while worry about quality of the Cook, because what he is presenting to me on a regular basis, at my favourite Sat afternoon restaurant is just not exciting the tastebuds at all, infact its by his own admission FLAT, and imo there aint much chance of it altering. UTO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sweet&TenderOwl Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Sonny" data-cid="4229712" data-time="1357111818"><p> Happy new year to you guys too!</p></blockquote> Happy new year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sweet&TenderOwl Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Northstandowl1977" data-cid="4229697" data-time="1357108078"><p> A new man if brought in around that time, would've had plenty of time to assess the squad. Now, we're stuck with dj and we've got no money to spend in January <br /> <br /> <br /> Assess the squad for what? If we had brought in a new man we would have even less than no money to spend in January <br /> <br /> We should have pushed the boat out for Batth and treacy when we had the chance<br /> <br /> Push the boat all you want wolves didn't want to sell Batth and he didn't want to sign for us</p></blockquote> Assess the squad to see if they are any good, with a fresh chance and fresh impetus to spur them on. Looks as though we'll have peanuts to spend in January and we already got a bloated and disjointed squad. Just feel we need to freshen things up somehow, be more positive and passionate, and have a go. Regardless of who is in charge, we shouldn't just lie down and we all want whats best and to stay up. Just can't see us staying up if things don't change one way or another. Be that personnel, tactics, positivity, new owners or a new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sweet&TenderOwl Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="intercity0wl" data-cid="4229740" data-time="1357115246"><p> Have always tried to defend DJ, but how many times is one expected to watch an already defensive minded squad be set up, and sent out at Hillsborough to play like we are the away Team, then we get DJ ladt night saying we were a bit flat, well im afraid Dave to get things to rise from flat you have to add a different ingredient and mix the flatness out of it, after yesterday im sadly becoming as concerned about the cook as i am his ingredients, never seen a Wednesday <span style='font-size: 18px;'><em class='bbc'><strong class='bbc'>HOME </strong></em></span>side set up as defensive minded in my life, but its becomming the norm at S6<br /> <br /> Was only a few weeks ago when People were getting excited, with MM comming out with his regulat pre window waffle, "we will not go down" "i will be backing the manager" ect ect, and others on here were saying they felt better after hearing that, and that I was being too negative when i said, "he's said it all before", he wont, he never does, he would have to break the habbit of a life time, and so on, yet yesterday it had gone back to we have no money, players need to leave first, Bla Bla Bla<br /> <br /> Im sadly starting to do what many have done for a while worry about quality of the Cook, because what he is presenting to me on a regular basis, at my favourite Sat afternoon restaurant is just not exciting the tastebuds at all, infact its by his own admission FLAT, and imo there aint much chance of it altering. UTO.</p></blockquote> Well said. I don't understand the home tactics and I can't see MM splashing the cash. Have been feeling this way since long before the mini-revival pre-Burnley. Even when we went on that four game run, I still said I didn't feel confident as regarding the opposition we still hadn't beaten any top half sides, even though I was glad and delighted with those much needed points, of course as any fan would be. But we're back where we were in the bottom three and back in a rut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 It's too early to say whether we've missed the boat or not, but it certainly feels that we are not going to do what's needed. By that I mean proper investment, and not a change of manager. All yesterday did was to remind us that we don't have the players to consistently do it at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 The window is open....yet it's very quiet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 The window is open....yet it's very quiet? 30 days to go, at 29 days it'll be like a piranha fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 For goodness sake - all these people saying 'I don't know whether I trust DJ with money or not'. What a silly thing to say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I know we have had a decent christmas and don't want to criticise because I haven't seen the games apart from yesterday, although welcome the points but we were totally bereft of attacking threat again!! I actually thought Lee and Helan played very well but it was left to Antonio to chase down chances while sidiibe was a passenger. I can see why we have sneaked wins with this 8-2 formation but doesn't work when we concede first. We desperately need some attacking threat although the only options we have in January are to spend bug money, which we won't or bring in a premiership tinge player on loan, is this enough?? Sorry to say but I am still not convinced by DJ, this squad has to be better than current points return and the best signing would be a new manager. For me the SOD situation should be something Milan should be taking an interest in. We have maguire and rodri who could be like new signings under proper management already on the payroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MirfieldOwl Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Meanwhile, Di Canio a passionate up and coming manager, who looks set to make it to the top, is doing a great job at little Swindon under a transfer embargo. Would he have been your choice to come in then? You didn't fancy other mouth-watering prospects such as Iain Dowie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest We Shall Overcome Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Have always tried to defend DJ, but how many times is one expected to watch an already defensive minded squad be set up, and sent out at Hillsborough to play like we are the away Team, then we get DJ ladt night saying we were a bit flat, well im afraid Dave to get things to rise from flat you have to add a different ingredient and mix the flatness out of it, after yesterday im sadly becoming as concerned about the cook as i am his ingredients, never seen a Wednesday HOME side set up as defensive minded in my life, but its becomming the norm at S6 Was only a few weeks ago when People were getting excited, with MM comming out with his regulat pre window waffle, "we will not go down" "i will be backing the manager" ect ect, and others on here were saying they felt better after hearing that, and that I was being too negative when i said, "he's said it all before", he wont, he never does, he would have to break the habbit of a life time, and so on, yet yesterday it had gone back to we have no money, players need to leave first, Bla Bla Bla Im sadly starting to do what many have done for a while worry about quality of the Cook, because what he is presenting to me on a regular basis, at my favourite Sat afternoon restaurant is just not exciting the tastebuds at all, infact its by his own admission FLAT, and imo there aint much chance of it altering. UTO. Let's get Facking Gordon Ramsey in Doris!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sweet&TenderOwl Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) Would he have been your choice to come in then? You didn't fancy other mouth-watering prospects such as Iain Dowie? Yep, Di Canio has been my first choice for the past few months. Why, do you mention Dowie in particular? There are plenty of managers out there. That doesn't mean anyone could come in and do the job. Who knows who could come in and do a good job and succeed. All managerial appointments come with risk but that doesn't mean no-one out there can't do a better job than DJ. I just feel that Di Canio, offers a lot of what we need and might be able to freshen things up and fire up the squad. Edited January 2, 2013 by Sweet&TenderOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sweet&TenderOwl Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 For goodness sake - all these people saying 'I don't know whether I trust DJ with money or not'. What a silly thing to say! He hasn't had a very high success rate so far with the players he's brought in. Only a handful of them at most have been decent for us out of over 20 various recruitments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 there is an old saying ,one mans rubbish is another mans treasure ,whos to say no one else could do a job with these players , dj seems to not be able to but someone else could ,so discrediting other managers is a bit daft tbh ,things might just click with fresh ideas and a clean start for all players to aspire to ,pound to a penny dj has p**Sed players off with his continued playing of players such as bothroyd during his time here and sideboard as of now ,who can have crapper than crap games and still feature before regular players and leading scorers , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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