Flat Owl Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 There is hardly anything worthy of note in the 21 months that Burtenshaw was in charge and he must surely rank as Wednesday’ s worst ever manager...... ..... In 1974-75 relegation was not to be denied. After a 1-0 win against Southampton at the end of December, they went four months and 17 games without a win, during which time they managed to score just two goals. The club is now in a secure financial state with a forward thinking chairman, a team with spirit and determination that I have not seen since 1991, we have just been promoted in front of 38,000 fans, we have acquired 14 new players including an England international goalkeeper and a premiership 'star' on loan from QPR, had a future England captain on loan for 6 months, signed one of the most exciting talents for years on the wing and an exeprienced CB with a premiership pedigree. You have seriously got to go some to spectacularly flip it up and be compared to Steve Burtenshaw in terms of results in this division.... Not good enough given the resources and the size of this club and the fanbase and 3 years of hard work is rapidly disappearing down the pan. The man and his staff need to take a long hard look at themselves and not blame the current 'problem' on the past or anyone else and effectively dismiss all the hard work done by this and previous Chairmen, the previous manager, fans, individuals & groups to shake off the stigma of everything that went before. You identified the targets, signed the players, you and your staff coach and pick the team, you and your staff motivate the players and determine tactics and systems. You said that if folk think we are here to make up the numbers, then they are in for a shock'. I'm flippingshocked, I'll give you that. No mea culpa but plenty of incoherent bullsh1t.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_wales_owls Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 There is hardly anything worthy of note in the 21 months that Burtenshaw was in charge and he must surely rank as Wednesday’ s worst ever manager...... ..... In 1974-75 relegation was not to be denied. After a 1-0 win against Southampton at the end of December, they went four months and 17 games without a win, during which time they managed to score just two goals. The club is now in a secure financial state with a forward thinking chairman, a team with spirit and determination that I have not seen since 1991, we have just been promoted in front of 38,000 fans, we have acquired 14 new players including an England international goalkeeper and a premiership 'star' on loan from QPR, had a future England captain on loan for 6 months, signed one of the most exciting talents for years on the wing and an exeprienced CB with a premiership pedigree. You have seriously got to go some to spectacularly flip it up and be compared to Steve Burtenshaw in terms of results in this division.... Not good enough given the resources and the size of this club and the fanbase and 3 years of hard work is rapidly disappearing down the pan. The man and his staff need to take a long hard look at themselves and not blame the current 'problem' on the past or anyone else and effectively dismiss all the hard work done by this and previous Chairmen, the previous manager, fans, individuals & groups to shake off the stigma of everything that went before. You identified the targets, signed the players, you and your staff coach and pick the team, you and your staff motivate the players and determine tactics and systems. You said that if folk think we are here to make up the numbers, then they are in for a shock'. I'm flippingshocked, I'll give you that. No mea culpa but plenty of incoherent bullsh1t.... Totally agree /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
townend_owl Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It's no wonder he's doing sh!t. His wife is having an affair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CvFAqyClTk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Banno's Wedge Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 There is hardly anything worthy of note in the 21 months that Burtenshaw was in charge and he must surely rank as Wednesday’ s worst ever manager...... ..... In 1974-75 relegation was not to be denied. After a 1-0 win against Southampton at the end of December, they went four months and 17 games without a win, during which time they managed to score just two goals. The club is now in a secure financial state with a forward thinking chairman, a team with spirit and determination that I have not seen since 1991, we have just been promoted in front of 38,000 fans, we have acquired 14 new players including an England international goalkeeper and a premiership 'star' on loan from QPR, had a future England captain on loan for 6 months, signed one of the most exciting talents for years on the wing and an exeprienced CB with a premiership pedigree. You have seriously got to go some to spectacularly flip it up and be compared to Steve Burtenshaw in terms of results in this division.... Not good enough given the resources and the size of this club and the fanbase and 3 years of hard work is rapidly disappearing down the pan. The man and his staff need to take a long hard look at themselves and not blame the current 'problem' on the past or anyone else and effectively dismiss all the hard work done by this and previous Chairmen, the previous manager, fans, individuals & groups to shake off the stigma of everything that went before. You identified the targets, signed the players, you and your staff coach and pick the team, you and your staff motivate the players and determine tactics and systems. You said that if folk think we are here to make up the numbers, then they are in for a shock'. I'm flippingshocked, I'll give you that. No mea culpa but plenty of incoherent bullsh1t.... Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2hoots Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 There is hardly anything worthy of note in the 21 months that Burtenshaw was in charge and he must surely rank as Wednesday’ s worst ever manager...... ..... In 1974-75 relegation was not to be denied. After a 1-0 win against Southampton at the end of December, they went four months and 17 games without a win, during which time they managed to score just two goals. The club is now in a secure financial state with a forward thinking chairman, a team with spirit and determination that I have not seen since 1991, we have just been promoted in front of 38,000 fans, we have acquired 14 new players including an England international goalkeeper and a premiership 'star' on loan from QPR, had a future England captain on loan for 6 months, signed one of the most exciting talents for years on the wing and an exeprienced CB with a premiership pedigree. You have seriously got to go some to spectacularly flip it up and be compared to Steve Burtenshaw in terms of results in this division.... Not good enough given the resources and the size of this club and the fanbase and 3 years of hard work is rapidly disappearing down the pan. The man and his staff need to take a long hard look at themselves and not blame the current 'problem' on the past or anyone else and effectively dismiss all the hard work done by this and previous Chairmen, the previous manager, fans, individuals & groups to shake off the stigma of everything that went before. You identified the targets, signed the players, you and your staff coach and pick the team, you and your staff motivate the players and determine tactics and systems. You said that if folk think we are here to make up the numbers, then they are in for a shock'. I'm flippingshocked, I'll give you that. No mea culpa but plenty of incoherent bullsh1t.... ^^^^^^ Well said. +1 from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Old Salt Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) If I knew how to +1 I would. Well put. Edited December 12, 2012 by Old Salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Nailed it there mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worksop Wednesday Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 get flippingin !! one of the 'punchiest' posts seen delivered on here - are you reading DJ, MM, PA -Neil- send em a copy ! shall we see if we can concoct a DJ reply ? I'll start it off.. 'Listen,........................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lawrie Maddens Hump Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) Likewise, some of our fans also need to realise that, that was then and this is now!!! There's too many of 'em living in the past. On that note, I'm off to bed now to dream of what we used to be. UTO Edited December 13, 2012 by Lawrie Maddens Hump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 There is hardly anything worthy of note in the 21 months that Burtenshaw was in charge and he must surely rank as Wednesday’ s worst ever manager...... ..... In 1974-75 relegation was not to be denied. After a 1-0 win against Southampton at the end of December, they went four months and 17 games without a win, during which time they managed to score just two goals. The club is now in a secure financial state with a forward thinking chairman, a team with spirit and determination that I have not seen since 1991, we have just been promoted in front of 38,000 fans, we have acquired 14 new players including an England international goalkeeper and a premiership 'star' on loan from QPR, had a future England captain on loan for 6 months, signed one of the most exciting talents for years on the wing and an exeprienced CB with a premiership pedigree. You have seriously got to go some to spectacularly flip it up and be compared to Steve Burtenshaw in terms of results in this division.... Not good enough given the resources and the size of this club and the fanbase and 3 years of hard work is rapidly disappearing down the pan. The man and his staff need to take a long hard look at themselves and not blame the current 'problem' on the past or anyone else and effectively dismiss all the hard work done by this and previous Chairmen, the previous manager, fans, individuals & groups to shake off the stigma of everything that went before. You identified the targets, signed the players, you and your staff coach and pick the team, you and your staff motivate the players and determine tactics and systems. You said that if folk think we are here to make up the numbers, then they are in for a shock'. I'm flippingshocked, I'll give you that. No mea culpa but plenty of incoherent bullsh1t.... excellent post mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Who is listening though? Platitudes, and pats on the head, are all you get as fans nowadays as we increasingly find ourselves living in a "shut up and sit down" World. With any well run business, the customer's views would count for much more. The inability as a customer to walk away and find another supplier, is a bit of a problem though isn't it? Where else would you keep buying a poo product? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Nobody is forcing you to buy any product at all though. You could just not buy a product. I don't really see any element of shut up and sit down in this situation. It's not a democracy. Football isn't any other business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 There surely must be a huge correlation between a fans thoughts on how well a manager is performing and that fans use of 'Mr' as a form of address. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arobert Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Great post from Flat Owl. Just the mention of the word "Burtenshaw" sends a shiver down the spine of some of us slightly older supporters. For Jones to be likened to Burtenshaw's results shows what a disaster this shambles is. I think the media game that Jones is playing is: We play OK and lose so Jones praises the performance and states corner being turned, etc We play badly and lose so Jones blames ref, player/s and talks of learning curve, etc It does not fool most people but for some inconceivable reason it unfortunately seems to have fooled Milan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Great post from Flat Owl. Just the mention of the word "Burtenshaw" sends a shiver down the spine of some of us slightly older supporters. For Jones to be likened to Burtenshaw's results shows what a disaster this shambles is. I think the media game that Jones is playing is: We play OK and lose so Jones praises the performance and states corner being turned, etc We play badly and lose so Jones blames ref, player/s and talks of learning curve, etc It does not fool most people but for some inconceivable reason it unfortunately seems to have fooled Milan. Perhaps Milan has access to a lot more information than silly interviews on local radio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOwl1991 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 What a great OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OasisOwl72 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 There is hardly anything worthy of note in the 21 months that Burtenshaw was in charge and he must surely rank as Wednesday’ s worst ever manager...... ..... In 1974-75 relegation was not to be denied. After a 1-0 win against Southampton at the end of December, they went four months and 17 games without a win, during which time they managed to score just two goals. The club is now in a secure financial state with a forward thinking chairman, a team with spirit and determination that I have not seen since 1991, we have just been promoted in front of 38,000 fans, we have acquired 14 new players including an England international goalkeeper and a premiership 'star' on loan from QPR, had a future England captain on loan for 6 months, signed one of the most exciting talents for years on the wing and an exeprienced CB with a premiership pedigree. You have seriously got to go some to spectacularly flip it up and be compared to Steve Burtenshaw in terms of results in this division.... Not good enough given the resources and the size of this club and the fanbase and 3 years of hard work is rapidly disappearing down the pan. The man and his staff need to take a long hard look at themselves and not blame the current 'problem' on the past or anyone else and effectively dismiss all the hard work done by this and previous Chairmen, the previous manager, fans, individuals & groups to shake off the stigma of everything that went before. You identified the targets, signed the players, you and your staff coach and pick the team, you and your staff motivate the players and determine tactics and systems. You said that if folk think we are here to make up the numbers, then they are in for a shock'. I'm flippingshocked, I'll give you that. No mea culpa but plenty of incoherent bullsh1t.... Nailed it. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arobert Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Reading the OP puts very succinctly waht a mess the manager has made of it. To be likened to Burtenshaw who was possibly the worst manager in the historty of SWFC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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