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I would like to give Dave Jones the freedom and time to sort it

It's not like he sits planning our next loss on purpose is it ?

i agree with you BUT he has dropped an almighty clanger and lost the confidence of many fans (and maybe players?).

do NOT blame this on the fans solely, they do not WANT us to lose do they?maybe passion gets the better of some in heated moments but it's that passion which drove us on last season, for the root cause see DJ aka 'the builder', he's doing a good job of dismantling all the momentum gained last season but it's early days yet. i,for one, will give him time (but he's lost my confidence) .

ps/can we clone a DJ and gary megson combination? ... perfik

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Jones probably needs more time to sort this lot out. The team today looked like a rag bag collection of players out of from, out of position, and lacking confidence.

The loan players probably aren't enjoying it.

We need to sort out an 11 that can grind out results in a difficult league if we are to survive.

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Dave the builder sempt so dissapointed that we won two and drew one of our first three league encounters, playing exciting penetrative football. Not forgetting of course our four goal second half salvo at Oldham. But in the main that was the Megson side Rhys McCabe & Gardner appart.

Since then we have seen the constant tinkering in his belief was not good enough. He warned us that our favourites wer n't his and we could expect changes. Ultimately he has played Taylor and Bothroyd when it has become obvious to all and sundrie that niether are ready to be blooded, not only that but he has done so at the expense of Llera and COG, you could also add JJ to the list of players he is trying to work out of the team. JJ has had his best start to the season and has deputised ably at right back for a game and a half. This brings into question the wisdom of why he ever went near Kieron Lee, but having seen him most wondered why he was so worried.

Today he set his stall out to prove a point, by giving extra midfield packing tactic in order to take the pressure off the two centre backs, but this was at the total expense of the game Wolves knew they only had to convert one chance to walk away with the three points. Also trying to justify his love of Bothroyd and loathing of COG, he puts COG on the left wing a classic case of setting someone up to fail inorder to quell the COG outcry from the fans.

Of course there is another possible scenario and that is one of DJ has n't had a lot to do with the comings and goings at Hillsborough. Maybe DJ is still here because unlike Megson he has n't gone shouting his mouth off regarding what is required. However, one further disconcerting rumour is that QPR are paying the vast proportion of Bothroyds wages as long as he is in the team. If this is the case it wants confronting because at the moment Bothroyd is not worth his place.

Lets go 4-5-1 with Anonio and JJ the wide men, COG up front and one of our big battlers supplementing midfield, with no place for Taylor until he sorts himself. FCS we gave Purse the opportunity to settle while playing and the awaited improvement never arrived.

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Dave the builder sempt so dissapointed that we won two and drew one of our first three league encounters, playing exciting penetrative football. Not forgetting of course our four goal second half salvo at Oldham. But in the main that was the Megson side Rhys McCabe & Gardner appart.

Since then we have seen the constant tinkering in his belief was not good enough. He warned us that our favourites wer n't his and we could expect changes. Ultimately he has played Taylor and Bothroyd when it has become obvious to all and sundrie that niether are ready to be blooded, not only that but he has done so at the expense of Llera and COG, you could also add JJ to the list of players he is trying to work out of the team. JJ has had his best start to the season and has deputised ably at right back for a game and a half. This brings into question the wisdom of why he ever went near Kieron Lee, but having seen him most wondered why he was so worried.

Today he set his stall out to prove a point, by giving extra midfield packing tactic in order to take the pressure off the two centre backs, but this was at the total expense of the game Wolves knew they only had to convert one chance to walk away with the three points. Also trying to justify his love of Bothroyd and loathing of COG, he puts COG on the left wing a classic case of setting someone up to fail inorder to quell the COG outcry from the fans.

Of course there is another possible scenario and that is one of DJ has n't had a lot to do with the comings and goings at Hillsborough. Maybe DJ is still here because unlike Megson he has n't gone shouting his mouth off regarding what is required. However, one further disconcerting rumour is that QPR are paying the vast proportion of Bothroyds wages as long as he is in the team. If this is the case it wants confronting because at the moment Bothroyd is not worth his place.

Lets go 4-5-1 with Anonio and JJ the wide men, COG up front and one of our big battlers supplementing midfield, with no place for Taylor until he sorts himself. FCS we gave Purse the opportunity to settle while playing and the awaited improvement never arrived.

He did seem disappointed that Megsons players seemed able and capable of playing CCC early on, and almost relished making full scale changes after the narrow 1st defeat to palace,.

Lots of rumours that the team spirit of last season between all the players has been completely fractured as well by having such a big squad.

It seems that he singles out players that he hasn't signed personally for criticism wilst ignoring the failings of his own signings.

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He did seem disappointed that Megsons players seemed able and capable of playing CCC early on, and almost relished making full scale changes after the narrow 1st defeat to palace,.

Lots of rumours that the team spirit of last season between all the players has been completely fractured as well by having such a big squad.

It seems that he singles out players that he hasn't signed personally for criticism wilst ignoring the failings of his own signings.

Sadly, this is a clearly demonstrable fact. And I have to say he's really disappointed me in this respect. Thought he he more about him, frankly.

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Before todays game DJ said his players need to realise they are in championship and have gone up a level

correct me if i am wong but where did the following play last season

Taylor, Gardner, Mattock - Championship ??

and then throw in

Bothroyd, Barkley,Kirkland - Premiership??

and add a Slovenian international

or does he just mean Semedo,JJ,COG and Antonio need to step up

He has done a brilliant job and I see no alternative but he cuts an awkward figure to the media and if this is a reflection of his man management skills that worries me

He needs some 'PR coaching' at best or at worst is stubbornly arrogant - regarding building he actually said in one interview ' show me a wall and i will knock it down ' Sounds more like demolition ??

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