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Utter gash.

We were poo at Bournemouth, and we were poo last night.

Any other way of looking at it is just papering over the cracks.

Football, like anything else in life, evolves and progresses.

The standard in the Prem, now, is light years away from where it was 10 years ago.

Likewise in the Championship and the lower leagues.

The time which players have on the ball is being lessened as every season goes by, as the 'Barca' model of high pressing becomes ubiquitous.

Hoofing the bloody thing up the pitch; kicking for touch; long throws and set-piece reliance are becoming tactics utilised by teams lower and lower down the pyramid as each season passes. And don't hold Stoke up as an example. They actually have some VERY talented players-unlike us.

Megson is a relic of a bygone age and a bygone school of thought.

The sooner he goes, the better.

Before we turn into the 'old' Wimbledon.

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So if someone criticises Megson and the way we play, they are either a blade or hate wednesday?

I see where you are coming from. People should be able to post what they wish.

All genuine comments/criticism should be welcome IMO.

It would be a boring forum otherwise.

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First half after we had conceded we were under pressure and played panic football trying to get the ball forward as quickly as possible. This led to us giving away possession and creating more pressure.

Second half, after Megson has had chance to talk to them we played more passing football and held onto possession more. Even the commentators criticised us for not getting the ball into the box. Perhaps we were a bit too patient but clearly Megson did not instruct them to kick it long and high. He clearly asked tem to retain possession and create pressure. That is what we did. We bossed the second half without creating anything much, admittedly, but this against one on the stronger teams in the division and where they are still unbeaten. They created very little.

Anyone who is not slightly pleased with that performance is a blade

lol

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Anyone who is not slightly pleased with that result is a Blade;

Anyone who is slightly pleased with that performance is a moron.

lol

Fixed it.

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I went to charlton last night and to be quite frank i was embarrassed. theres no way we are a promotion winning team, again.I don't think megson out is the answer but then i am not sure what is.Rob Jones was poor and IMO shouldn't be captain.some may disagree.Morrison was hungry and showed passion. no running off the ball, no shots on goal.Question is.How do we see this getting any better?

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So let's get this straight against one of the stronger teams in the division playing at home where thay are so far unbeaten

  • After going a goal down we fight back to get a draw
  • we stop them creating more than one or two chances
  • we correct the panic hoofing of the first half and get the ball down and pass it around

and there is nothing at all to be pleased about?

Excuse me for thinking that you do not support the Owls

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I went to charlton last night and to be quite frank i was embarrassed. theres no way we are a promotion winning team, again.I don't think megson out is the answer but then i am not sure what is.Rob Jones was poor and IMO shouldn't be captain.some may disagree.Morrison was hungry and showed passion. no running off the ball, no shots on goal.Question is.How do we see this getting any better?

So what did you think of Charlton? Will they get promoted? How many shots did they have?

How do we see this getting better?

Two much vaunted strikers have virtually not played yet. The probable first choice starting 11 have yet to play competively together. Playing as well away from home as we have at Hillsborough.

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So let's get this straight against one of the stronger teams in the division playing at home where thay are so far unbeaten

  • After going a goal down we fight back to get a draw
  • we stop them creating more than one or two chances
  • we correct the panic hoofing of the first half and get the ball down and pass it around

and there is nothing to be pleased about?

Excuse me for thinking that you do not support the Owls

Are we talking from the perspective of us being a promotion winning team or from that of us being a top half team?

From the perspective of us winning promotion- no I am not pleased. We look far from being that.

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Mo.I wasn't pleased. Thats it. i love my club and thats why i am not pleased with what i saw otherwise i wouldn't give a throw.

We should have lost.Full stop.They missed a sitter and were were lucky with a point.I didn't expect them to go there and run rings around them but i expected a bit more in the way of erm.........................Football.

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Oxon I think all would be proud of those qualities. However, good side that they obviously are, they were still there for the taking. We were not set up to take advantage of their off day, we never are away from home. I think most teams would have beaten Charlton last night. I base that on what I saw and not what the formbook says.

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Utter gash.

We were poo at Bournemouth, and we were poo last night.

Any other way of looking at it is just papering over the cracks.

Football, like anything else in life, evolves and progresses.

The standard in the Prem, now, is light years away from where it was 10 years ago.

Likewise in the Championship and the lower leagues.

The time which players have on the ball is being lessened as every season goes by, as the 'Barca' model of high pressing becomes ubiquitous.

Hoofing the bloody thing up the pitch; kicking for touch; long throws and set-piece reliance are becoming tactics utilised by teams lower and lower down the pyramid as each season passes. And don't hold Stoke up as an example. They actually have some VERY talented players-unlike us.

Megson is a relic of a bygone age and a bygone school of thought.

The sooner he goes, the better.

Before we turn into the 'old' Wimbledon.

I understand your frustration, but Rome wasn't built in a day. We clearly have a budget and an experienced chairman and manager who will work to maximize this.Every fan wants his team to be top but you have to be realistic. We are going forward as a club for the first time in years. Even Man U bully teams into submission without playing the Barca and Arsenal way. It doesn't always work. We need results pal. Swansea and Donny will get relegated with their pretty passing. Stoke won't with their direct style. You as good as acknowlede that.

And if you think Semedo is not a good player you must be partially sighted or sampling too many sherberts before kick-off

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Charlton fans don't seem to think they had an off day. They think we stopped them playing.

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So let's get this straight against one of the stronger teams in the division playing at home where thay are so far unbeaten

  • After going a goal down we fight back to get a draw
  • we stop them creating more than one or two chances
  • we correct the panic hoofing of the first half and get the ball down and pass it around

and there is nothing to be pleased about?

Excuse me for thinking that you do not support the Owls

Well said.

There has been an influx of total lobbers on to this site who's IQ would be along side that of a demented amoeba.

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Charlton fans don't seem to think they had an off day. They think we stopped them playing.

We did stop them from playing. Seems obvious to me.

For some though, this isn't acceptable.

Of course, they ignore facts like having eight players unavailable, but let's not allow such things to cloud our view.

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No I'll not be going any further than S6 until my son arrives and has been with us at least 6 weeks.

His Grandad will be there though, Yeovil too ! Up the Owls ! Breed Wednesdayites ! Make babies ! Do your bit for the club lol

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And if you think Semedo is not a good player you must be partially sighted or sampling too many sherberts before kick-off

Semedo is a good player, but he performs a specific role within the team, ie breaking up the opponents play and defending our back four.

There are, broadly speaking, two schools of thought in football;

1.- You seek to neutralise the opponents players; keep it tight; nick something from a set piece

or

2.- You let the opponent worry about you

I remember years ago being treated by Alan Smith for shin splints, which had tragically shortened my promising Sunday League playing career( :smile: ), and he was saying how, in the pomp of Hirsty et al, it never mattered to the team when they came in a goal down at half time because they always KNEW that they had the ingenuity and the fire-power to outscore any team they were playing.

It's a mindset; you score six, we'll score seven etc.

I'm afraid that I'm with the likes of Big Ron and Ian Holloway.

Football is only 'just' a sport when it's played recreationally without paying spectators.

If people pay to watch, then it's also supposed to be something else, too; Entertainment.

And whatever else anybody may accuse gary megson of, being 'Mr Entertainment' is not a label which you can attach to him, or his teams.

To hear Owls fans glorying in the triumph of the pragmatic over the mercurial is upsetting.

Or at least it would be if there was actually any 'triumph' involved..................

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Semedo is a good player, but he performs a specific role within the team, ie breaking up the opponents play and defending our back four.

There are, broadly speaking, two schools of thought in football;

1.- You seek to neutralise the opponents players; keep it tight; nick something from a set piece

or

2.- You let the opponent worry about you

I remember years ago being treated by Alan Smith for shin splints, which had tragically shortened my promising Sunday League playing career( :smile: ), and he was saying how, in the pomp of Hirsty et al, it never mattered to the team when they came in a goal down at half time because they always KNEW that they had the ingenuity and the fire-power to outscore any team they were playing.

It's a mindset; you score six, we'll score seven etc.

I'm afraid that I'm with the likes of Big Ron and Ian Holloway.

Football is only 'just' a sport when it's played recreationally without paying spectators.

If people pay to watch, then it's also supposed to be something else, too; Entertainment.

And whatever else anybody may accuse gary megson of, being 'Mr Entertainment' is not a label which you can attach to him, or his teams.

To hear Owls fans glorying in the triumph of the pragmatic over the mercurial is upsetting.

Or at least it would be if there was actually any 'triumph' involved..................

How would you characterize Megson's football then?

Personally, I think it's not as negative and dour as some people make out.

I also think that when we get all our players fit that we'll actually see a brand of football that is exciting enough to watch.

I'm sure Baggiehy would confirm that Megson is well capable of setting up his teams to play an entertaining type of football.

Might not be like what we got in the early nineties, but after the last ten years or so I'd more than settle it.

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Not sure where you get eight players missing but I'll run with it Though we still felt that we could leave the leagues leading scorer sat on the bench. Let's face it we set up not to lose, and in that respect we didn't. However when you constantly set up in away games, not to lose, you sometimes miss opportunities to win.

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How would you characterize Megson's football then?

I'm thinking along the lines of words like 'functional' and 'effective' and 'organised' etc.

Which purely in terms of looking at results/league tables in a newspaper might be ok IF it works.

But in terms of laying out hundreds of pounds a year to actually WATCH, erm................

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