Salli

Well done for putting a negative slant on a positive thread. Moaning about moaning. Brilliant.

I went to the Sneinton Market fanzone for the Panama game and it was great, though that wasn't put on by the council (was a fiver - or 8 quid for this Saturday which sold out within 60 seconds) and allowed for up to about 400 people I believe. It was brilliant. And yeah for Sweden the council are putting on a free one in the castle grounds for up to 3000 people which has never been done in Notts before so it deffo appears doable at fairly short notice.

Forest.

When pay on the day fans are being charged more than 40 quid for some games then we should be in touch with the top two. End of. We have been more than patient considering our post Wembley performances.

But we aren't in the Prem and nor will we sell out a week on Sunday in the home end for a second tier game at £40 a ticket. Thus Leeds are welcome to the seats for me. But anyway I'm going dizzy and so shall bow out.

But we won't sell out all four sides even if the opportunity was there. Not against Leeds, on a Sunday, for a TV game. So I'd rather see away fans than empty seats. I'd rather an atmosphere as I expect the 'advantage' gained by Leeds as a result of extra tickets will be negligible - take away the tribal atmosphere from football and it's no more interesting to me than cricket.

What a sad, soulless viewpoint.

I'd suggest they offer more scope for variation than most football shirts, especially plain ones. But that isn't why he has changed our kit so the point is an odd one to make.

But like he just said. It isn't or shouldn't be an either/or scenario.

I don't expect him to do anything to suit my needs. But I'm allowed to voice my opinion on a forum when he doesn't.

I really do wish I could see like-for-like how people would have reacted to these changes had we not improved off the pitch. Or if DA had announced such intentions. Would be very interesting!

I thought it was slightly altered from the one we had previously 'used'? Pedantic of me maybe. But it's nothing to do with scaremongering. Just another example of him changing things in a quiet and creeping fashion as alluded to by a number of other posts. We've quietly accepted all changes so far simply because we are now at the top end of the second division. What will we accept to be plying our trade at the bottom end of the top division? What if we go up and don't win a game all season...will a superstitious chairman decide that it's our club colours causing us problems and well hey, they didn't oppose all my other 'tweaks'. It sounds far fetched and maybe it is. But I feel uncomfortable about it all and as I keep saying - if the club's identity fades then so does my interest meaning I lose something hugely important to me.

That's a good point. Chansiri wouldn't dream of changing the badge in any way.

For me it is. As I say, if success is all that you care for then simply change your allegiance to that of a top club. The things that matter to me are identity, tradition, the tribal factor/pride in my place of birth, and the memories I make with family/friends at the games. Take away some of the above and I lose that connection with the club. Once that happens it means my interest is lost also.

Aside from him playing with the kit and another club in our division having had their colours completely changed in recent times. Poorly swerved.