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  1. On 16/06/2022 at 13:36, HIGHERSTATE said:

    Everyone seemed to love the Russian world cup.


    What kind of people run that fkin country.


    You are right of course, it was bought and paid for by Putin. I love how all the computers they used were destroyed after the bidding process. 


    However, Qatar is another couple of levels higher on the corruption scale. Same bigoted laws and attitudes, same corruption, but add in a country - or basically a city as Doha is Qatar - that is a totally inappropriate and illogical place for a football tournament to take place. 


    Playing it in November /December is the thing that's going to kill it. Russia in the summer was always going to be very hard to resist.


    With Qatar, we are going to be settled into the domestic season, SWFC will still be playing , peoples thoughts are turning towards Christmas.


    As I've said earlier, I doubt that the coverage from the TV Channels is going to be as exuberant as usual for a tournament. I think the bear minimum will happen for the BBC in particular, coverage starting 15 mins before kick off, no tourism pieces, just pure business. They know this is a very controversial occasion and won't want to be seen as enjoying it too much.








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  2. 20 hours ago, 0742 said:


    Not everything is 'left vs right' why can't you accept that some people don't enjoy the football England have played under Southgate, why do some always have to make about more than the end product being served up?!


    The guy would struggle to get a job back at Middlesborough is he was fired from the England job. Last night was tactically inept. 


    I think if Southgate left England, having taken them to a semi final then a final in consecutive major championships, he would be very sought after all over the continent. 


    That 'we '  as football fans on the internet think he has been tactically inept is neither her nor there - it's an opinion we are entitled to have but no way do we have more tactical nounce than Gareth Southgate and his team of coaches. 

  3. 49 minutes ago, duncanidaho said:

    Let's have a look at this fallacy of footballers being tired.

    They play football once, sometimes twice a week and train for a few hours a day in between.  If they are tired it is down to overtraining.

    What I can subscribe to, is players carrying injuries and not getting the recuperation they need to recover.


    We are not talking physically tired, we are talking about the mental checkout and mental fatigue after a long and competitive season. 


    I can fully imagine players zoning out or not having the concentration to follow the game plan and instructions they have been given.


    Remember , whilst we feel being a footballer and playing for England is the most amazing thing in the world, at this stage for the likes of Kane, Maguire, Sterling etc  it's just a job you really like mostly, but like anyone else who does a job , they need a holiday from it. These players just haven't had that decent break for about three seasons. 


    The carrying injuries and no recuperation thing I fully agree with. 



  4. 22 minutes ago, SiJ said:

    No, you are probably right. 


    It's not the glamour job that it was once portrayed at and tbf, the glamour managers we had didn't exactly pull up many trees. 


    He's done a solid job has Southgate, but you do sort of wonder if he'd have been better off stepping down after the Euros. For one, they shouldn't have been tying him down to a new deal, but then that's standard FA f*ckwittery. 


    Last night felt like a bit of a moment for me and not in a good way where Gareth Southgate is concerned. 



    I've said on other bits of social media...Gareth Southgate is not popular with fans, and not just because of his football decisions.


    His defence of his players taking the knee in the face of booing by large sections of the teams support didn't go down well, and he is seen as a bit of a ' lefty' , which I believe is in direct contrast to the England teams in ground and travelling support. It was never going to take much for them to turn on him.


    If you are looking for a possible replacement, there are slim pickings if we want an English coach. 


    Almost immediately we are down to Lampard and Gerrard, who the FA would probably choose between. English club managers like Potter, Dyche and Howe don't really fit the bill.

  5. 1 hour ago, duncanidaho said:

    These are 'professional' players.   If they can't get themselves up for every time they pull on the England shirt, then maybe they shouldn't be playing.  You can't pick and choose when you try, especially at that level....


    But they are also humans, and no other English players are going to be more enthused. 


    These are a new generation that put club miles before country.  It's June, after the season has ended, in a tournament that is neither the Euros or the World Cup which they could get up for as they are only every 4 years. 


    I'm intrigued to see how ' up for it ' they are in this coming WC . I can imagine the likes of Pep, Conte and Klopp will have quiet words with players , explaining  they need to come back ready mentally and physically to resume the domestic season. This won't just apply to the English players either. Perhaps we will have a World Cup that's very low on commitment!.  



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  6. 8 hours ago, DobbinTheDonkey said:

    Fatigue is a poor excuse because the World Cup should be taking place now.



    The Nations League isn't the World Cup though. 


    This isn't about physical fatigue, this is about mentally switching off, and simply rather being anywhere else than on a football pitch.  


    Not one player is going to come out and tell the truth- that they were going through the motions and couldn't be bothered to follow a game plan, concentrate and have discipline.


    We all know that England players don't seem to take the same pride in playing for their country that other teams do. That was the difference tonight. 


    I honestly believe this tournament and these results have absolutely no bearing on what will happen in Qatar . There will be different mental challenges there, and players still might not 'show up', but it won't be related to this ridiculous competition. 


    Make no mistake,  England players have embarrassed themselves over these 4 games, but we aren't at 2010 South Africa levels of hopelessness and disinterest yet. 

  7. 32 minutes ago, SiJ said:

    32 year old Dejan Lovren is going to be mind fooked when he finds out he was 38 in 2018 lol


    Who am I thinking of then ..Dan Agger?   😀


    I guess the point is that Sterling and Kane would have faced more intimidating centre halves than Dejan in the previous Premier League campaign. 


    Can't believe I've aged Lovren by an extra 10 years. 

  8. 2 hours ago, WorrallOwl17 said:

    The thing is nowadays, you can get to the semi finals of the euro's and world cup without really having to play a side better than us if you have luck on your side with the draw. So i never really know what to think of Southgate, because in the last 2 tournaments he's taken us deep, but it's hard to work it out because this turgid, conservative football is obviously going to get results regardless, just because of the quality of opposition on show.


    In the world cup in 2018 we got to a semi final, we faced Tunisia and Panama in the group, then our run to the semi was Columbia and Sweden, hardly football power houses are they? Even Croatia in the semi final you wouldn't class them as world beaters. So we got to the final 4 without playing France, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Argentina, Germany etc etc.


    Euro's in 2021, a group of Scotland, Croatia and Czech. Okay the Germany win was impressive, but then Ukraine and Denmark to get to the final. So that's one tough Opposition all the way to the final.


    This winter, i won't look past the first knock out round because that's jinxing it, but a group of Iran, USA and Wales isn't hard work, then potentially Senegal after that. 


    I like Southgate, he's took his deeper than anyone else in my generation of watching England, but i always think we'd come unstuck against 'better' opposition. In 2 major comps for me Germany is the toughest game we've had, it's very hard to work this side out still.  


    Also, in that tournament we got completely outclassed twice by Belgium, and could easily have lost to Colombia. I still maintain that Croatia team was pretty decent - Modric, Peresic, Rakitic and Brozovic were man for man better than our midfield, but their defence had a 38 yr old Dejan Lovren and Vida, who looks a like a villain from Lethal Weapon, so we should have outscored them. 


    The Euros we did better, beating Germany, putting away a Ukraine side with some dangerous players, and getting past a highly motivated on fire Denmark. 



  9. On 12/06/2022 at 08:37, Mcguigan said:

    Confirmed his international status as an impact sub to me.


    Now Pep’s drilled the theatrics out of game, there’s not much left.


    Problem is, Sterling and Kane are always going to be two of a front three if fit.


    Sterling is a big game player now, Kane is Kane,  leaving Grealish/Foden/Saka/Rashford/Sancho/Bowen/Maddison  all fighting for one place.


    If all are fit, Foden has to play. This leaves the others filling for injuries,  playing in dead rubbers,  or coming on as impact subs. 



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  10. 20 hours ago, FreshOwl said:

    Mount is one of those players who gets in the team by looking busy 


    Fact is he doesn’t really do or achieve anything of note


    Widely acknowledge as a 'teachers pet' who does exactly as instructed on the pitch, and understands complex tactics and game plans a lot quicker than other players.


    Yes he can play a bit, but if you are playing two out of Rice/Phillips/Bellingham as the double pivot,  then a front three , there shouldn't be a place for him. 


    Very good player though. 



  11. 8 hours ago, TrickyTrev said:

    In fairness if fans were to take a moral stand on such occasions, nobody would’ve watched the last World Cup after Russias annexation of Crimea.


    As Scram says, just because you don't protest about everything,  doesnt mean you can't make a stand on this occasion. 


    I see some fans are using the 'Well you didn't protest against...' as a reason to have their usual En-ger-lund lads on tour beano.


    Not for me, Clive. 




  12. 2 hours ago, MF TAZ said:

    What if England make the final 


    I'm really not trying to be smart or edgy when I say I hope that doesn't happen.


    Fair enough the country won't disgrace itself like it did last summer due to the time of year the final will be , but let's face it the last thing this country needs is Boris Johnson surfing a Xenophobic wave of football goodwill. 

  13. No Panini sticker book either this year for me, that's going to be tough.


    Thought about taking the little 'un to some women's Euros games, but not sure if I can cope with that.


    There's still time for individual players to ' retire ' from International football, even if teams are committed to going.


    Always had this bizarre thought that Kane will break the goal scoring record over the summer and warm up friendlies, then say he's not going to Qatar as he wants to spend time with his family and concentrate on his club career. 


    Genuinely think some players will see this tournament like the fans are seeing it..a bizarre circus and not really a genuine World Cup. There has to be temptation to sack it off if you have played in a WC before. Even the winners will feel it has a caveat attached to it.


     A number of Wales fans celebrating them getting to the World Cup have also said that they probably won't go, as opposed to definitely going if it was in South/North America, Europe, Australia & NZ.  



  14. 1 hour ago, Lime Tree Heros said:


    I know exactly what you mean - your experiences match many of mine.


    An advantage is kick off times, which are always at 3pm on Saturdays & Bank Holidays and 7:45pm on Tuesdays. Whilst not so much an issue for Wednesday in League 1, I know a few supporters of Premier League clubs that watch Chatham Town, because they can't watch 'their' clubs due to the multitude of ko times sky demand.


    Sorry, I mispoke - I find the whole step / tier thing confusing... Chatham Town are now in Step 4 - same as SPS, which is in the 8th tier of the football pyramid - same as SPS, so maybe see you in the FA Trophy!


    Now that would be weird, well worth a pint though if it happens!

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  15. I think as Taz says, the absence of it this summer will ramp up the absurdity of it another notch.


    I have no intention of watching it, and I think I will stick to this due to when it's taking place; I'll just not be in the 'tournament ' frame of mind. I'll certainly not be booking any days off to watch a three game marathon. 


    It won't have the feel or vibe of a proper WC either, and I imagine the broadcasting will be less celebratory and more perfunctory. 


    Finally,  I can't fathom the mindset of any fan that actually wants to go there and 'enjoy' it, knowing how it has been awarded to them, the human cost and the bigoted laws of that country. 


    I appreciate no regime is squeaky clean, no tournament or country pure as fresh snow, but this is on another level. Fans will probably use the excuse of ' We are just not hypocrites'  , but morally there has never been a tournament as disgraceful as this. 



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  16. 20 hours ago, Lime Tree Heros said:

    For me these are two separate issues 1 - Atmosphere 2 - Crowd size the two are not necessarily linked.


    1 - Atmosphere - exciting, winning football on the pitch should get this sorted.


    2 - Crowd size - increasing this could be really tricky - Fans of league clubs have been ripped off for years.


    As an example, I live over 200 miles from Sheffield and as a 'part timer' only got to a couple of home and maybe 4 away games a season. During covid I started watching my local tier 5 non-league club (this was before crowds could watch league football), this has since become a season ticket. I've been to 4 different league grounds since lockdown and I can safely say that the facilities I enjoy at non- league are way better than all 4 league grounds.


    I urge anyone who hasn't been recently, during pre-season research a local non-league club with decent facilities and pay them a visit - comparing them to what Hillsborough has to offer, will probably depress you...


    When trying to entice part timers to become full timers, this is the sort of thing that sets us back...


    I've not regretted switching to watch Stocksbridge Park Steels, think they are 8th tier.


    Thing is, it's like going to a proper football match; you really do get that match day experience. 


    Pay through a turnstile,  buy a programme and a half time draw ticket, get a hot drink/beer, pie , crisps whatever. Pick whether you want to sit in the reasonably impressive for the level stand, or stand on the terracing. There's a P.A. with music and team announcements.


    Much more 'wholesome ' and worthwhile,  and a better atmosphere for kids. 


    Quite frankly, I don't really notice the difference in levels of football quality either.  Games are often exciting with great goals/saves/ tackles etc.


    I think the problem with watching SWFC is that it is an expensive habit.


    The minute you miss a few months, you realise you have something better to do with your time and money- that it simply isn't worth it . 

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  17. 3 hours ago, Manwë said:

    Big Fat Ron,

    What have you done?

    You've gone and won the cup,

    Wednesday are on the up.

    *Wednesday fans point up en masse*


    Nillson, Nillson, oh yes he's the real deal son

    *Wednesday fans deal like cards en masse*


    Hirsty Hirsty,

    through on goal,

    Get out your sewing kit,

    'Cos he's gonna tear a new hole

    *Wednesday fans mimic knitting and sewing en masse*


    Oh Danny Wilson,

    Screws you like a Stilson,

    Makes it tight at the back,

    And up front for attack,

    In the morning you're getting the sack

    *Wednesday fans make screwing gestures en masse*





    Pretty sure you have just made that up! 😄

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  18. Southgate needs to look beyond his pet centre backs of Maguire and Stones.


    Neither are what's needed at very the top level. I don't care if Maguire has made the team of the tournament in the Euro's etc..he can get in the way if stuff sometimes and that's it. Stones is just a generally poor defender and footballer.


    We need to be looking at Tomori & Guehi , players with a more modern approach and skillset. 


    I'm not happy with Pickford either , but until someone else arrives with a strong claim, he's not going to be replaced.


    We are strong at full back/ wing back , across midfield ( I've accepted we will never have a Pirlo type creator ) and our wide and striking options are plentiful, if you accept that Abraham is Kane's back up, and we have  Saka, Sancho, Sterling, Rashford, Foden, Grealish , Bowen, and Maddison as supporting cast around them. 


  19. Utter disgusting greed.


    These players have more money that most of us can ever dream of, but they are happy to back murderous regime sports washing to earn even more more millions.


    Smacks of near Billionaire Messi agreeing to promote tourism for Saudi as a side hustle.


    Totally indefensible from a sporting and ethical viewpoint.  

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  20. You would need very good segregation between drinking and non drinking areas, so families could still go and enjoy the match. 


    If you just had a general rule, it would be carnage . English football fans just cannot behave well enough with alcohol for that to work.


    As someone has previously said,if you can't go 2 x 45 mins without a beer, or even 1 x 35 mins & 1 x 45 mins if you're a beat the HT Queue merchant, then you have a serious problem.  

  21. 12 hours ago, scram said:



    Not sure if serious...


    Sort of serious, but more what @1961OWL says.


    A player like TAA, young lad that's played , what , 60 games this season including 3 finals and missing out on the Premier league title and Champions League at the last stage..that has to be mentally draining, never mind physically. 


    Last thing I imagine he wanted to do was travel to Hungary to receive racist abuse in a weak tournament. 


    Of course, a player can never say no to playing for England, but maybe for a tournament like this Southgate could have picked an experimental squad who would have more to prove and would have been, quite frankly,more up for it.


    I'll never forgive the complete disinterest of the England squad in WC2010 in South Africa,  where they simply looked like they resented being on this biggest stage in football, but I can forgive a bunch of players looking out of sorts when having to play in these friendlies after 9 months of a football season.



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  22. Sounds like the players were not up for this at all, and to be honest I'm not going to criticise them for that.


    Multi millionaires an all that, but fancy having to go to Hungary to play more football when all your mates are going on holiday. 







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