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  1. I've bought one and I wish I wouldnt have. Mainly due to my personal situation but it's going to be difficult to see any savings from it and even if I do it's going to be very minimal. I'll be lucky to go 10 games this season to make up the £50 I've spent to get a £5 saving per game. I'll be honest, I got caught up in the pre-season excitment and completely ignored the fact that Saturday 3pm isnt always do-able for me and the mid-week games are all on sky now. So, it's my fault really. It's only really worth it if you can guarantee going to over 10 games a season and even then you're probably not far off spending what you would have done on a season ticket. There's not a great deal of sense to it to be honest, I wouldnt get one again whilst they're £50.
  2. We’re not the only club in the country that have a big squad, how do you think other clubs do it? They make it of importance to develop young players I assume. Walker and Maguire weren’t world beaters at youth level. They weren’t tipped to reach the heights that they have. They were good young players, the same as what we’ve had recently in Clare, Hirst, Penney. Yeah, if the next Messi comes through your academy they’ll obviously be good enough and be around the first team without any extra help. Most young players are more potential than they are the finished article though and a good start to your career goes a long way.
  3. Walker came through at United when promotion was a real possibility, he played in the play-off final that they lost to Burnley. I believe that was his first season. I think Naughton also came through around the same time. It’s the equivalent of us bringing through youngsters whilst we was in the play-offs, which as you said we just wouldn’t do. If you think we’re completely blameless in the Hirst situation you must be a bit deluded. You paint this image of an unruly youngster who doesn’t deserve a chance and giving someone game time as ‘pandering’ - It’s more what can Wednesday do to get there young talents playing at first team level. As you say we bought an unnecessary amount of strikers despite the fact we had a very talented one at youth level and then didn’t loan him out. We blocked any development he could have had other than playing for the U23s. The fact he was getting called up for international duty suggests he was a player of calibre that we did not develop. It’s not pot luck what players come through your academy. It’s not random that some clubs have a proven track record of bringing through young players whilst we don’t. The main reason why it’s important for a club like Wednesday is because we need funds. We can’t blame FFP and parachute payments, we can’t sell our stadium again. We need to have sustainable way of operating as a club and that involves developing younger players to either improve us or to sell for profit. As I said before though, that’s not just kids through the academy but also the type of players we buy. We’re doing it all wrong in my opinion and this stats highlights it.
  4. The things is though Clare and Hirst obviously had a lot of talent and we didn’t develop or nurture that talent well enough at all. You can’t just say that because they haven’t done anything since that justifies the decision to not tie them down on new deals. We’ll never know, obviously, but had either of those players come through at a club better at bringing through young players I think there careers would be looking a lot better now. Had Walker and Maguire come through at Wednesday they probably wouldn’t have become the players they have. We’ll see what happens with Penney, who obviously shows a good amount of talent, but as I said earlier in the thread I think we just got lucky that Jos got the job at St Pauli and rates him. Otherwise he’d probably be in the U23s again this year. I think it’s not just the caliber of young players we have but that we have no idea what to do when a young player shows potential.
  5. I agree with you but having players under the age of 23 isn’t just about what comes through your academy. It’s about who you buy. I’d also say we had some decent prospects that have come through the academy recently that we’ve made a complete hash of. Controversial topic but I think the whole George Hirst saga will massively come back to bite us and we obviously didn’t deal with that well, no matter how much people want to place all the blame on him. Sean Clare was another talented player we didn’t tie down and we’re lucky that Jos got the job at St Pauli, otherwise I suspect Penney would be another player let down by our inability to bring through young players. Things do seem to be changing, good to see Kirby on loan but you only need to look at our neighbourghs to see there’s a massive heap of talent in Sheffield and the surrounding areas that we’re not tapping into or developing properly.
  6. It’s not misleading in the slightest. We have nobody under the age of 23 playing in our first team and we’re the only club in country where that’s the case. I don’t think it’s the end of the world, but it does highlight the main problem of the Chansiri era; we’ve bought a lot of older players, on big wages with no re-sale value.
  7. We just can’t seem to get hold of the ball
  8. Iorfa is the best centre back at the club
  9. Great idea that. The gap between the top premier league clubs and the rest of the football league is too big now, a reputable competition without them would be welcome. It’d also probably do the FA Cup a favour
  10. It’s the cup, unless you play one of the big 6 then 21,000 is a really good attendance. You can’t use this game as justification for our other games being priced too high, it’s not comparing apples with apples.
  11. I’d agree with Reach being dropped if Murphy would have played well. Even if Reach didn’t have a great game, he looked more threatening than Murphy did.
  12. Ok, the reason I asked is because I wanted to understand whether you thought the cross was so good even the best keeper in the world wouldn’t have dealt with it any better than Westwood did. Which, to be honest I think would be a bizarre thing to think. You’re massively exaggerating how good this ball in was. It’s in a good area I’ll give you that but there’s not that much pace on it. It definitely can be dealt with better and in my opinion most goalies in this league would have either parried it away from danger or caught it.
  13. Question for you, if that exact same cross, with the exact same situation, same defenders and everything, goes in towards the best keeper in the world (whoever you think that is) would it have resulted in a goal? I appreciate that might sound a stupid question but there is a reason I ask.
  14. If we can’t debate whether our players should have done better in certain situations because they’re professionals and we’re not, then this forums going to be a bit quiet isn’t it. You can close all the Reach and Nuhiu threads for a start. And yeah, you’d be right in trusting Westwood’s judgement over mine - but that’s assuming he’s happy with how he handled that cross. I’d think he wouldn’t be.
  15. You ask that as if parrying the ball to the player in-front didn’t result in a goal. At the end of the day Westwood’s got 3 options with that cross and re-watching the highlights, although it’s in a good area, there’s not much pace on that ball. Catch it, parry it to the side, parry it in front of you. We know, 100%, that parrying it forward wasn’t the right thing to do. And we know that because Fulham literally scored from him doing so. You’re not telling me that whatever Westwood would have done, would have resulted in a goal. Like he’s powerless once that ball comes in. He made the wrong decision, the proof is in the pudding.
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