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  1. Dead right. If you can manage it, watch from 5.45 min below. I lost confidence in our England's no1 at this point. I never thought he could do worse than this. He nearly did in the March game with the Pigs later on that season. That was after conceding 6 to Leeds and 7 to Arsenal as well. Then he topped it all in the cup final replay. Nice away kit though......
  2. Huddersfield finished the season with a minus 2 goal difference and didn't score a goal themselves in the play offs but still got promoted. Don't suppose that makes you feel any better....
  3. I assume your forgiveness is towards DiCanio rather than Alcock? Alcock's bad balance, stumbling and falling started a chain of events that turned a standard sending off into major news, scandal and ultimately us losing a fantastic player. Our chairman acted in his best personal interests (siding with the FA rather than the club) which lead to DiCanio's mate Benito leaving as well under a manager unsupported and unable to deal with what followed. We've very rarely looked forward since.
  4. 93 cup final replay. Arsenal in 98 when Aldock fell over, the literal tipping point for decline we still haven't recovered from. Leeds 1-6 and Newcastle 8-0 really, really upset me.
  5. It's not glass half full of half empty for me. My glass is simply never big enough. In terms of where we are, very good signings and early for a change. And free. That's all good and exciting. I agree with a few comments though, tactics need to adapt so we can change it when the opposition defence push up and we get pressed, squeezing out any space for Bannon.
  6. Thank you. I've been campaigning for the return of a yellow away shirt but realised I've put the black and gold 1993 one ahead of a yellow one! I need to think things through better.
  7. 1 = 2= 3= 4 = 5 = Hard to choose a top 5 and leave out so many great shirts.
  8. Wasn't Greg (low transfer) Fee part of that same declining centre back partnerships? We went from Lyons, Smith, Shirtliffe, knight and Hart to Cranson, May and Fee.
  9. Odd kit arrangements have happened before but not so far as I am aware for reasons of colour blindness. How have players coped with this in the past? Might explain a lot in some cases. Newcastle away 1993. And this one December 1990 at home v Notts County
  10. I know what you mean. We spent money on the kop roof in 1986, and re-profiled the terrace to bolt some seats on and behind pillars in 1993. We then extended the South stand and did a good job. But this was refurbishment and extension. Not actually building a new stand that I feel the kop could have been in 1993 and the West stand should have been asap after April 1989. Every other football league club has built at least one new stand in the last 30 years except QPR. It's nearly 60 years since we did.
  11. Watching Wednesday at an away ground - 12 times at St James' Park, Newcastle. A right range of emotions in that dozen from Gary Shelton overhead kick on my Birthday 1984 and winning 2-1 top of the Premier league 1996 (Whittingham winner, Shearer's first home game?) to the 8-0 beating in 1999.
  12. With two exceptions, every club in the football league has built a new ground or at least one new stand in the last 30 years. QPR last built a new stand in 1981. The other exception is us, we haven't built a new stand since 1965.
  13. Sunderland (Roker Park) Boro (Ayresome Park) Shrewsbury (Gay Meadow) Man City (Maine Road) Cardiff City (Ninian Park) Stoke City (Victoria Ground) Leicester (Filbert Street) Huddersfield (Leeds Road) Oxford (Manor Ground) Arsenal (Highbury) Wembley (old) Wimbledon (Plough Lane) Bolton (Burnden Park) Derby (Baseball Ground) Soon to be Everton (Goodison)
  14. Wilkinson I agree, way ahead of his time. Not many folk could adapt and change - Clough famously relied on money and fear to man manage and motivate players. But as Pleat said about 20 years ago, how do you motivate multi-millionaires safe with their f#ck off money? Just posted this in another thread about Howard Wilkinson... Howard Wilkinson was pretty much unknown when appointed but actually way ahead of his time. In 1983/4 Mick Lyons said Wilkinson would manage England one day. He was right of course. Wilkinson improved fitness no end, through professionalism, Alan Smith's physio work and training. It got immediate results with average to good players at that level.15 yrs later Wenger did something similar at Arsenal with international superstar players and also got immediate results. Wenger got quite a bit more positive coverage for it. Roberto Carlos developed the attacking full back role in the mid nineties. Conte and Tuchel have developed the full back into winger option recently into team tactics. They get worshipped in the media for innovation and adaptive, "total" football using full backs costing £30 million each. Howard Wilkinson used five at the back with overlapping full backs becoming wingers. He did it with Mel Sterland, Nigel Worthington and Lawrie Madden. The majority of the media called it "long ball kick and rush". Man City and Liverpool have had huge success in recent years using the pressing game, winning the ball back as soon as possible, defending from the front. Pressuring the opposition into errors. The media call it Mentality Monsters, heavy metal football and the High Press. Howard Wilkinson used the pace of Bannister, Varadi and Marwood to close down defenders, pressure them into mistakes, defend from the front. It worked very well, it also led to success. I remember really good European cup winning teams like Liverpool and Tottenham just not being able to deal with it at the time, good defenders looking baffled and harrased on the pitch. The media called it The Percentage Game, kick and rush, football by numbers etc. Howard Wilkinson played percentages with very limited resources at Wednesday. When given resources at Leeds, he had massive success. He is still the last Englishman to win the title.
  15. Howard Wilkinson was pretty much unknown when appointed but actually way ahead of his time. In 1983/4 Mick Lyons said Wilkinson would manage England one day. He was right of course. Wilkinson improved fitness no end, through professionalism, Alan Smith's physio work and training. It got immediate results with average to good players at that level.15 yrs later Wenger did something similar at Arsenal with international superstar players and also got immediate results. Wenger got quite a bit more positive coverage for it. Roberto Carlos developed the attacking full back role in the mid nineties. Conte and Tuchel have developed the full back into winger option recently into team tactics. They get worshipped in the media for innovation and adaptive, "total" football using full backs costing £30 million each. Howard Wilkinson used five at the back with overlapping full backs becoming wingers. He did it with Mel Sterland, Nigel Worthington and Lawrie Madden. The majority of the media called it "long ball kick and rush". Man City and Liverpool have had huge success in recent years using the pressing game, winning the ball back as soon as possible, defending from the front. Pressuring the opposition into errors. The media call it Mentality Monsters, heavy metal football and the High Press. Howard Wilkinson used the pace of Bannister, Varadi and Marwood to close down defenders, pressure them into mistakes, defend from the front. It worked very well, it also led to success. I remember really good European cup winning teams like Liverpool and Tottenham just not being able to deal with it at the time, good defenders looking baffled and harrased on the pitch. The media called it The Percentage Game, kick and rush, football by numbers etc. Howard Wilkinson played percentages with very limited resources at Wednesday. When given resources at Leeds, he had massive success. He is still the last Englishman to win the title.
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