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  1. That was Don Megson's last game for Wednesday. He ended up being subbed cos he was absolutely roasted by some kid called Keegan..... Was a sad end to a fantastic career.
  2. Billy Walker tried to sign Matthews from Stoke back in 1934 when he'd just become Wednesday manager but failed. Even at that stage (he was only 19) Stoke considered him irreplaceable. The only time I definitely saw Matthews play was the testimonial match for Joe Shaw, the old United player, back in March 1965. He played in an All Stars XI against a United side that also included Jimmy Hagan, years after he'd retired. The crowd was 29,500!
  3. Can I just say that the Liverpool game, 1968, I chucked a cushion on the pitch. It was all my dad's fault.....never seen him get so worked up about a ref's decision!
  4. When I moved to London in the mid-70's and lived in Harrow I used to support the local team, Wealdstone, who then played at their old ground at Lower Mead which was just at the bottom of our road. They had a forward called George Duck who was a legend for them, scoring over 250 goals. Also, a midfielder called John "Willie" Watson who was the biggest (though not in size) thug I've ever seen on a football pitch. I remember on one occasion them playing Altrincham in what was then called the Alliance Premier him laying out one of their lot and then walking on his face. The Stones also had a teenage full back called Stuart Pearce.... After moving to Chelmsford in 1985 I've been a regular at City games; in fact, I've probably seen more City games since then than Wednesday. I've even been to a few away games at such exotic places as Enfield (when they were the best team outside the league and played at Southbury Road, Braintree (the local variant of the Pigs) and Thurrock. City are serial play off failures....this season was the seventh time in eleven years they've reached the National South play offs and they've got to the final once!
  5. The clip also misses the male streaker who, if I remember rightly, it was subsequently discovered had some sort of mental issues. Nothing to do, though, with watching Wednesday. Apparently.
  6. Remember the Save Our Owls campaign only too well. Our football was embarrassing enough but that really took it to another level. Pretty sure it was launched for the away game at York City on a Friday night; last day of January 1975. There was a guy from The Star taking pictures of the Wednesday fans behind the goal; I'm sure someone will be able to link to the pictures somewhere. But we were terrible that night and lost 3-0. For the next game we had Phil Henson, our new star signing from Man City, in the side and actually he was a bit better than what we'd seen thus far that season but he soon descended to the abject mediocrity of the rest. And after a couple of weeks when it had become clear that we couldn't even score a goal let alone win a game the campaign was quietly dropped. Really brings me out in a cold sweat when I think of that season.
  7. Forestieri has a year left on his contract. If next season he is the player of old then he is potentially priceless but we have had two seasons when he has been very much on the periphery. So do we take that risk bearing in mind in twelve months he can leave for nothing? Come next January we might bite anyone's hand off for £2 million.
  8. How do we generate funds to bring in players, bearing in mind even loans cost a fee, without selling? We may be saving circa £140k a week on wages with the freed players but what about Rhodes wages? "How do you know "No one" is interested in our in contract players ?" Read the sentence again. There is the word "unless" in there.....which is the whole point. Clubs won't pay silly wages and a huge fee as well. FF, Rhodes, Reach, Bannan (probably wouldn't sell)....all on north of £30k a week. Just about every player we have has a price. But we won't get anything like the nonsense figures being talked about on here.
  9. The selling club has the position of strength.....except when you are wanting to sell, which we are, and when everyone knows you're near the knuckle with FFP. You then have to take a view. Do you continue to pay out the £30k plus a week in wages for a player or do you get some funds and save on the weekly wage bill? The summer window is a buyer's market; there are tons of free transfers and clubs looking to sort out season-long loans for their younger players. No one is interested in the in-contract players we have with their current wages (which the buying club would have to meet) unless we are prepared to seriously lower our own expectations.
  10. I would have thought that at the moment every one of our players has his price. And other clubs know that we are looking to offload so we are hardly negotiating from a position of strength. So being realistic..... Winnall.....hardly kicked a ball for a year so who's going to buy him....£750k FF....injuries, attitude, high wages, too risky?....£2 million tops Joao....unfulfilled promise....£750k Rhodes....gone backwards, high wages....£2 million The real bankable assets we have are Bannan and Reach but again wages could be a problem. And I don't really see anyone apart from the likes of Huddersfield (replace Mooy) and Cardiff coming in. I reckon we'd be lucky to get £3.5 million for either.
  11. How many games has Nando actually played in the last couple of years? He seems to have spent most of the time out injured and even Bruce has said they’ve got to be careful with him. Anyone coming in for him will need to match his wages and they’re not going to do that and pay a big fee for a player who spends half the time on the treatment table.
  12. I started going with my dad about three years before then; distinctly remember the home game with Leyton Orient (56 years ago this Saturday!) but don't know if that was my first or not. My dad was certain, at the start of the 1965/66 season, that we were going to go to Wembley so we got season tickets from then in the North with my uncle. We actually went to all the cup games that year.
  13. Another stat.....from 1965/66 to 1978/79 inclusive (14 seasons) we only had one season (1976/77) when we actually had a finish above tenth in any division. All these bloody glory hunters these days..... By the way. I started with a season ticket in 1965/66....
  14. Away days was what it really was all about back then. That whole period.....crap team but fantastic memories. Actually, what with Wednesday, London and the music scene would love it to be 1976 to 1980 all over again.
  15. No, can't remember that at all! I was one of those under the cover at the side.... I see, incidentally, that the school went the way of the bulldozer as well and the whole area is now apartments. Was at Reading for that 1-0 win; our first away win in 22 months. Stood under the big cover which went down one touchline. Can still vividly picture Jeff Johnson wheeling away with his arms in the air after smashing it in.
  16. League Division Three Bradford City 2-1 Wrexham Cambridge Utd 2-0 Port Vale Carlisle Utd 2-0 Walsall Chester 1-0 Shrewsbury Town Colchester Utd 1-1 Lincoln City Gillingham 0-0 Portsmouth Hereford Utd 0-0 Peterborough Utd Oxford Utd 3-3 Swindon Town Plymouth Argyle 2-2 Exeter City Preston North End 4-0 Bury Rotherham Utd 1-2 Chesterfield Tranmere Rovers 3-1 Sheffield Wednesday Table Pld W D L F A Pts 1 Wrexham 21 11 6 4 35 23 28 2 Gillingham 22 10 8 4 37 27 28 3 Tranmere Rovers 22 11 5 6 36 21 27 4 Cambridge Utd 21 11 4 6 38 26 26 5 Peterborough Utd 21 9 8 4 17 14 26 6 Preston North End 21 8 9 4 26 19 25 7 Colchester Utd 21 9 6 6 31 20 24 8 Shrewsbury Town 22 8 6 8 35 31 22 9 Chester 21 6 10 5 23 27 22 10 Bury 21 7 8 6 23 28 22 11 Swindon Town 21 7 7 7 35 30 21 12 Carlisle Utd 21 6 8 7 28 27 20 13 Exeter City 21 8 4 9 27 28 20 14 Oxford Utd 22 7 6 9 32 34 20 15 Rotherham Utd 21 6 8 7 29 31 20 16 Chesterfield 21 8 4 9 21 23 20 17 Walsall 21 6 8 7 24 27 20 18 Bradford City 21 6 7 8 25 29 19 19 Plymouth Argyle 21 5 8 8 25 28 18 20 Hereford Utd 21 5 8 8 16 24 18 21 Port Vale 21 3 11 7 21 32 17 22 Lincoln City 21 5 6 10 21 31 16 23 Portsmouth 21 3 10 8 21 35 16 24 Sheffield Wednesday 21 3 7 11 18 29 13 Boxing Day 1977!
  17. Don't remember the penalty at all which is odd as I seem to recall just about every game from those times but virtually none when we were actually decent.... I think probably the lowest moment for me, however, was Boxing Day 1977. Big Jack had been manager for about two months to huge expectation but the first thing he'd said was that things might get worse before they got better. How right he was. That day we lost away to Tranmere (I seem to recall Tommy Tynan's cousin getting a hat trick for them), our fifth successive defeat including Northern Premier League Wigan away the previous week and we were already adrift at the foot of Division 3. I remember the brief chants of "Charlton Out" from the terraces as we'd got walloped at Cambridge (Big Ron was their manager) and we just seemed doomed. If Charlton couldn't save us then who the f00k could? Yet from that moment we literally turned the corner. He brought Bob Bolder in for the next game; whilst he was always a bit accident prone I always thought Bolder was a far better keeper than Chris Turner. We were fortunate to have two successive home games against fellow strugglers Rotherham and Hereford to follow which we won 1-0 and the acorns were planted! Carlisle next was a typical last minute disaster (f00kin Porterfield!!!!) but all of a sudden we became stronger defensively. And the hope had returned. Amazing to think that just six years after that game we were in the middle of a fantastic season that was going to take us back to the Big Time. All about having the right guy in charge at the right time....which is why I'm so hopeful at the moment. And if you haven't got hope....
  18. That three year period, 1973/74 to 1975/76, was absolutely desperate. We won 29 of 130 league games (22%), only five away from home and lost 63 times. There were times when you simply thought it couldn't get any worse and yet it did. It just seemed that there was no limit to how far we would fall. And, of course, it was Sod's Law that this coincided with when I started working and was able to go to away games as well. One match sticks out in particular....Shrewsbury (away) on Tuesday, 13 April 1976. Our first ever season in Division Three and we were fighting desperately to avoid Division Four. We'd been totally embarrassed at Wrexham on the Saturday and we simply had to get a result. I'd just relocated to London and couldn't get to the Wrexham game but I had this notion that if I went to a game we'd somehow play better and get a result. So, that morning, I decided that I simply had to get to the game from London. Managed to get a half day at work, got on the train and changed at Wolverhampton (I think). Arrived in Shrewsbury about 6pm and managed to find a pub nearby. This, of course, was the old Gay Meadow ground which was just the other side of the river and I'd worked out on a map how to get there. Of course, back then the floodlight pylons gave grounds away and got to the ground about half an hour before kick off. Gay Meadow was next to a school and you entered in one corner right by the school wall and could walk round virtually the whole ground. Found the small group of Wednesday fans in the opposite corner including some guys from the place In Sheffield I'd just left. Pissed it down all evening, as I recall, but we got a 0-0. Terrible, terrible game but the result was all important and just avoiding defeat was like a victory. Matches like this you never cared about how to get home so when I got back to the station I found there was no connection to get me back to London. I did see there was a train to Crewe so got on that; it stopped at every station you could think of. Then spent about three hours on a bench on the platform at Crewe till a train back to London arrived. Got back at Christ knows what time, just in time to get up for work the following day. I've always been absolutely gutted that I missed the Southend home game which kept us up. I simply couldn't get up to Sheffield for that and of course back then there were no instant scores or anything like that. The only sure way I had of getting the result before the morning papers was Sports Report which was on Radio 2 after the 10pm news. Spent that whole evening absolutely bricking it about what had, or might have, happened and from 9.15 or so on it was worse....because then I knew it had happened but I didn't know what. Remember going to the pub, having one pint and then being physically sick with nerves. What great days they were.....
  19. The corners need to be infilled and the Leppings Lane end totally redeveloped, as it should have been after the disaster. That aside, and a bit of tarting up, I don't see any need to move.
  20. Norwich....unchanged team today for the seventh game in a row. Makes you wonder.
  21. Billy Walker. First game in charge was a 3-1 win at Liverpool on 9 Dec 1933 (he'd been appointed the previous day) but wasn't defeated until losing 0-2 at Man City in a replayed F A Cup tie on 21 Feb 1934....his 17th game in charge. The original cup tie against City saw the Hillsborough attendance record of 72,841 set. As he later managed Chelmsford City who I also watch regularly I did a couple of articles on him for a City publication three or four years back. I found some interesting snippets; for instance he tried, at different times, to sign both Stanley Matthews and Tommy Lawton for Wednesday, he also used to follow some training sessions perched by the scoreboard on top of the old Leppings Lane shed. Some years later, when he was managing Forest and in a game against Bury which they had to win to stay up, he stayed in his office all afternoon rather than watch the game. Forest won but the still went down as other results went against them. Oddly enough both he and his Wednesday successor, Jimmy McMullan, died on precisely the same day....28 Nov 1964.
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