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  1. MoorfOwl

    FA Cup - Mick on Talksport

    I know the 1961 Cup matches against them have already been mentioned, but 1961 was a very good year for The Owls against Manchester United all around. We played them four times in the calendar year, twice in the league and twice in the cup: Won 3 Drawn 1, Goals For 16 Against 5. The results were: 28th January FA Cup 4th Round SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 1 Derek Wilkinson 14' MANCHESTER UNITED 1 Noel Cantwell 43' (pen) 1st February - 4th Round Replay MANCHESTER UNITED 2 Mark Pearson 4', Alex Dawson 60' SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 7 John Fantham 2', 52', Alan Finney 30', 80', Keith Ellis 32', 38', 64' 25th March – Division 1 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 5 Noel Cantwell 4' (o.g.), Gerry Young 14', 52', 65', Bobby Craig 72' MANCHESTER UNITED 1 Bobby Charlton 89' 4th November - Division 1 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 3 John Fantham 9', Tony Kay 14', Keith Ellis 88' MANCHESTER UNITED 1 Dennis Viollet 20' I'm looking forward to our next such run!
  2. MoorfOwl

    RIP Playoff Hopes

    Dreaming unthinkable dreams has been allowed to Owls since at least 1928’s Great Escape and 1929’s championship. As yet I haven’t heard the BMI-challenged lady sing. Two wins from three for the rest of the season and we’re in the low seventies. Lowest ever promoted points score under the present system, if I remember rightly, was Blackpool (‘09-10) with 70 exactly. Lowest points to reach playoffs was Leicester (‘12-13) with 68.
  3. Happy New Year Everyone! The maths are now very easy. In the oddly-compressed league of 2012-13, Leicester reached the play-offs with 68 points while Peterborough were relegated with 54. Although this season the Championship has more of a tail, we are still in a situation where the leaders have barely two points a game. Assuming they continue at this rate, a team is likely to need around 86 points to make the automatic promotion places and around 73 to make the play-offs. Wednesday would, therefore, have a chance of the play-offs with 42 points from the last 21 games. Essentially we need to win two out of three for the rest of the season. Maintain the form of the last three games and we finish with 80 points. I know, but this is Wednesday, isn't it? Stranger things not only can happen, they already have.
  4. MoorfOwl

    My xmas wish for all owls fans

    Away day at Boro, No crib sheet we’ll need To sing them a carol That they’ll have to heed. All stars in The Owls team! We’ll look back and smile, Once we’re best in Yorkshire By a country mile! Merry Christmas, everyone.
  5. MoorfOwl


    I remember this from the remarkable result in 2000 - Celtic 1-3 Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Scottish Cup, "Super Caley go ballistic, Celtic are atrocious." Caley were not in the premier league at the time. But, when I looked it up, I find the Liverpool Echo used it of Ian Callaghan back in the 1970s - ' SUPER CALLY GOES BALLISTIC, QPR ATROCIOUS ' So obviously this one is up for grabs in any local paper if the Owls win at Swansea. Just trying to be helpful here.
  6. I believe for every cheer upon the Kop Reachy will score; Fletcher will run until he drops And score two more! I believe in Fessi and Matias too, Tricks and deceit, I believe that Cammy stops all pens, and you Will see I’m reet! I believe for every pass that goes astray Bannan will come, to show the way! I believe, I believe! I believe our bad spell has now run its course, I believe our back four will now grow in force, Every time I see the tireless Pessy stride, A Foxy cross! A Hector slide! I trust in Jos, I believe!
  7. MoorfOwl

    That miss by Palmer

    As Bill Shankly said of Roger Hunt - "Yes, he misses a few, but he gets into the right place to miss them."
  8. While it’s true that consistent selection produces familiarity, it can also discourage originality. We get used to doing things one way, our opponents learn that way and work out how to nullify it, and then what? Added to this problem, regular players get used to relying on the team star. As Norfolk said earlier, the more traffic is routed through Bannan, the less space Bannan will be allowed by opponents. By contrast our fringe players, we hope, will be making a determined bid for a regular place and ready to try something new and audacious in the hope of catching the eye. If you never rotate your fringe players into the team, they are not even going to be ready to plug the gaps created by our inevitable injuries. I, for one, will put my hand up and say I looked at last night’s team in advance and thought it looked a good solid selection. When you’re going through a phase of two matches a week, you will get mental fatigue even if you don’t get physical fatigue. Mental fatigue will result in usually good players making silly mistakes that they wouldn’t make when relatively fresh. Physical fatigue will increase the risk of injury to our more vulnerable players. Moreover, either you believe in a youth policy or you don’t. Everybody wants the finished product of a youth policy: a talented group of players, loyal to a club that has treated them well and able to mix it at the top of the league. Nobody wants the building process where maybe a young player makes a mistake that wouldn’t have been made by a senior pro who’s been left out of the side, and maybe that mistake costs us the game. But you don’t create a youth policy overnight and young players are only very rarely instant stars. Sometimes they are shooting stars that briefly burn very brightly and then are almost snuffed out as opponents learn how to counter their moves and they have to learn new moves themselves. Sometimes they slowly develop into world beaters, even though initially all we spectators see is faults. I’ll put my hand up again and admit I was unimpressed by the young Colin Dobson; now that’s a pretty big error, folks! In short, I agree with Snoots. We can see what Jos is trying to do, and the objective he’s aiming for is a good one. Not everything he tries will come off, but very few of us are actually perfect, are we? We tried buying instant success and sadly it didn’t work. Now we have to do it the right way. Of course, it’s slower and of course, we’re all upset when we lose. ‘Twas ever thus. But there isn’t really an alternative, is there? Just hang on; this is inevitably going to be a bumpy road.
  9. Funnily enough, this was the first name that occurred to me. But Keith, for all he had his detractors, managed 52 goals in 102 appearances 1955-64. That would be considered a very acceptable return today. However in his early years with The Owls, he was trying to compete with Roy Shiner who scored 93 goals in 153 games. Keith should be forever remembered for his hattrick in the 7-2 away defeat of Man U. The match was, of course, played on Wednesday (1st Feb 1961).
  10. In my part of the world, mention of the above is forbidden. There are people who think it has something to do with actual history, you know.
  11. I think this is why you finish the pre-season with a match against top-rank opposition such as Villareal. It exercises the football brain and sharpens the reflexes. If The Wednesday start as quickly today, Wigan will find the step up to the Championship quite a test. Up The Owls!
  12. Keith Ellis, Peter Eustace, Bobby Craig, Tony Kay, Stevie May David James, Clive Allen, Florian Albert, Johnny Giles, Eddie May
  13. Quite possibly the piece is a filler that's been waiting for space for some time, though I'm grateful to londonowl for a very clear explanation of the problem. As a traditionalist, I actually thought the photograph of Wednesday playing in blue and white stripes with black shorts was the best bit.
  14. The Times has a little article by Paul Joyce today in its downloadable edition, reporting on The Owls' financial concerns. There's very little that will come as news to Owlstalk readers; in fact, the accompanying illustration shows a stock photo including blue and white striped shirts and black shorts. The article notes the £21m loss for the operating year to May 2017, compares it with the 3 year maximum of £39 million and concludes the club face having to offload some high earners. It mentions Forestieri, Fletcher, Rhodes and Boyd, but only as examples of high earners, not as being for sale.