kaiser soze

So if this is correct we’ve got 12 players out of contract next year. Looking doubtful we’ll get the sorts of fees mentioned by some people on here eg BB, Westwood, Hooper if we do sell

No from the bloke in the pub who knows someone in betting shop.

I got told he’ll be announced tomorrow. No inside info or source though.

Yes... Getting a good start is essential as over the years we've been haven't been the best. Over the past 27 seasons we've only managed over 20pts from the first 10 games twice....and on both occasions we got Automatic Promotion. 2016/17 W5 D2 L3 (Pts 17) 2015/16 W4 D3 L3 (15) 2014/15 W4 D4 L2 (16) 2013/14 W0 D6 L4 (6) 2012/13 W2 D2 L6 (8) 2011/12 W6 D3 L1 (21) Promotion 2010/11 W4 D2 L4 (14) 2009/10 W3 D4 L3 (13) 2008/09 W4 D3 L3 (15) 2007/08 W2 D0 L8 (6) 2006/07 W1 D4 L5 (7) 2005/06 W1 D4 L5 (7) 2004/05 W4 D3 L3 (15) PO winners 2003/04 W5 D3 L2 (18) 2002/03 W1 D6 L3 (9) 2001/02 W1 D4 L5 (7) 2000/01 W1 D2 L7 (5) 1999/00 W1 D1 L8 (4) 1998/99 W3 D1 L6 (10) 1997/98 W2 D3 L5 (9) 1996/97 W4 D2 L4 (14) 1995/96 W3 D2 L5 (11) 1994/95 W3 D3 D4 (12) 1993/94 W1 D3 L6 (6) 1992/93 W3 D3 L4 (12) 1991/92 W5 D2 L3 (17) 1990/91 W8 D2 L0 (26) Promotion Edited May 31 by kaiser soze

Correction 27 seasons. It's getting late!

Getting a good start is essential as over the years we've been haven't been the best. Over the past 17 seasons we've only managed over 20pts from the first 10 games twice....and on both occasions we got Automatic Promotion. 2016/17 W5 D2 L3 (Pts 17) 2015/16 W4 D3 L3 (15) 2014/15 W4 D4 L2 (16) 2013/14 W0 D6 L4 (6) 2012/13 W2 D2 L6 (8) 2011/12 W6 D3 L1 (21) Promotion 2010/11 W4 D2 L4 (14) 2009/10 W3 D4 L3 (13) 2008/09 W4 D3 L3 (15) 2007/08 W2 D0 L8 (6) 2006/07 W1 D4 L5 (7) 2005/06 W1 D4 L5 (7) 2004/05 W4 D3 L3 (15) PO winners 2003/04 W5 D3 L2 (18) 2002/03 W1 D6 L3 (9) 2001/02 W1 D4 L5 (7) 2000/01 W1 D2 L7 (5) 1999/00 W1 D1 L8 (4) 1998/99 W3 D1 L6 (10) 1997/98 W2 D3 L5 (9) 1996/97 W4 D2 L4 (14) 1995/96 W3 D2 L5 (11) 1994/95 W3 D3 D4 (12) 1993/94 W1 D3 L6 (6) 1992/93 W3 D3 L4 (12) 1991/92 W5 D2 L3 (17) 1990/91 W8 D2 L0 (26) Promotion

Of the 5 teams mentioned above which did eventually get promoted 3 kept the same manager (Leicester = Brian Little, Bolton = Big Sam, Ipswich = George Burley) The other 2 changed managers after 2 seasons (Birmingham: Tricky Trev replaced by Bruce; Cardiff replaced Dave Jones with Malky MacKay) (obviously the the life span of managers has reduced over the years though)

Since the Playoffs started 30 yrs ago, 7 teams have made the Championship Playoffs on 3 consecutive seasons or more. Only one of those teams went on to gain Automatic Promotion (4th season) after 3 unsuccessful Playoff attempts: Cardiff City 2010-12 (RU, SF, SF) before going up as Champions in 2013 2 Teams have been promoted via the Playoffs at the 3rd attempt. Leicester 1992-94 (RU, RU, W) Bolton 1999-01 (RU, SF, W) 2 Teams it was their 4th attempt: Ipswich 1997-2000 (SFx3, W) Birmingham 1998-02 (SFx3, W) The other 2 teams failed all 3 attempts: Blackburn 1988-90 (SF, RU, SF) Tranmere Rovers 1993-95 (SFx3) ...if I've got my calculations correct

Agreed

No Hooper then?

Waddle gave the Blunts a 2-1 sign when he got substituted. Brilliant

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