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For those wondering what the rest of the headline is. It's... Tigers chief McCann has had the rug pulled from underwear

Wait a minute. 5 people went to that meeting didn't they?

First the Forest owner gets For-Owner-Virus. Then a thread is started about Forrest (sic). And now Tom Hanks is sic (sick).

I'm sorry you didn't get the internet argument you wanted.

I agreed with you. You focussed on two words from my post at the expense of the wider point. This tangential style of arguing leads exponentially down a whole myriad of strawman paths which can go on ad infinitum. Our respective points are not mutually exclusive. There's no argument to be had here.

I have my source. But unfortunately I can't disclose it. Ok, it was Garry Monk.

I understand that Ricky. It's how it's done. But it's a shady aspect of journalism. It's a get out of jail free card. If someone cites the generic 'Sources inform us...', then no-one can possibly challenge it. If the information turns out to be wrong, there's no comeback. It's risk-free. That's the wider point I was making.

Irrespective of all the personal sniping that's going on that I have no interest in getting involved in, ToppOwl is making a valid point about the English being used. "Several Championship clubs have told...", "It is understood...", "Sources have told..." are prime examples of a passive voice structure that absolves anyone of any ownership about the information given. I'm not debating whether what they're writing about is true or not, but it's a common technique in journalism that swerves important details. i.e. Which Championship clubs? Understood by whom? What sources? It is understood to have happened in this conversation between Vic Buckingham and Garry Monk: "It's been said that you need help." "Who said that?" "Sources." "Whatever. How can I turn this around, Vic?" "Things need to be done." "You're trolling me. I'm off home." "A bus needs to be taken."

To be honest, even if the entire forest team self-immolate I still can't see us winning.....

If we all chip in, I'll go out and get him one. Oh, 'chip in', haha. Unintentional pun. I meant pitch in. Oh, 'pitch in', haha. I meant club together. Forget it. Let's just start another Coronavirus thread.

"Mr. Chansiri. Have you ever fmdd hfr mmr mhh fff..." "What?"

With apologies to Pete McKee.

This is the full transcript: https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/garry-monk-press-conference-brentford-17872986.amp