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  1. 19 hours ago, Groundhopping Owl said:

    I remember being desperate for Jeremy Helan to do well with us, he had so many physical gifts that you just felt like a good run to boost his confidence would be enough to make him a top player at this level. Sadly he never quite got there.


    Julian Börner is heading into this sort of territory for me. I accept he had a dodgy spell after Christmas (along with the rest of the team) but I love how committed he is, he really would run through brick walls to get us a win.

    Never understood the hate towards Jeremy Helen. When he came here he was excellent and gave us so much needed pace. Was brilliant during his loan spell and fans were very happy when he signed a permanent deal. Went on to have about 100 appearances for the club in his time. 


    Started to lose it at the end of his time with us but he could have come in useful as a sub the following season when we had no pace at all. 


    Nowhere near an 'awful' player. 

  2. 4 hours ago, HighworthOwl said:

    Stevie May... obviously not a world beater but scored some important goals that helped keep us in the division. 


    Keith Tracey i also thought was a decent player for us but used to get some stick. 


    Both never went on to a higher level so maybe they where right and i was full of s**t.


    Keith Tracey. Thought he was great for us. But had forgotten about him. 

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  3. 19 hours ago, torres said:

    I understand your sentiment but it’s the clubs that are responsible. Supporters money now wouldn’t cover a third of our squad - that’s the problem 

    You've misunderstood. 


    I never said supporters money had anything to do with it. 


    If fans stopped going to football and stopped watching it, the TV money, advertising money etc would stop because the companies that pump millions into football wouldn't bother because there isnt enough interest to justify it. It's the sky, BT TV funding, the sponsorship deals etc that makes the difference.That is where the money is that allows clubs to pay a player 200k a week. 


    Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury aren't multi-millionaires cos people buy tickets to watch them fighter. It's because Sky TV and advertisers pay millions to have the rights to show their fights on their TV channel knowing theyll make the money back 10times over through box office sales. Once nobody wants to pay £25 to watch Joshua, sky won't pay for the rights, the fight is shown on sky sports 2 and Joshua gets a few grand rather than 100million. 

  4. People need to realise that only one set of people can change player wages. 




    When fans stop going, the money into football will dry up. TV companies and advertisers don't spend millions on something that isn't getting massive crowds and mass interest from the public. 


    Once people lose interest and refuse to pay ludicrous prices to watch the players would never be able to demand such stupid money and clubs won't be able to afford it anyway.


    Will that happen? No chance. 



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  5. 17 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said:


    How would you feel if someone told you your salary was going to be reduced by 63% instead then. Have you never said something in the heat of the moment that was an exaggeration when trying to make a point? The fact is our payments as fans cover 37% which leaves the owner needing to find a further 63%. 


    Mistakes have been made in this sense by him in terms of salaries and not selling players but this quote was well over a year ago. All he can do is improve on the mistakes that have been made.  


    Agree. When will that ever start happening is the question

  6. Spending all this time at home and not been allowed out has got me working through the book shelf of all those books that I bought to read one day. 


    Over the course of the past week I have read 'My Story by Mark Bright' and finally got round to reading 'No Smoke No Fire by Dave Jones'. 


    Brightys book was a good read but Dave Jones book was very very good. Have to say that I hated him as our manager despite finishing off the promotion job back to the championship.


    What he and his family went through with the child abuse court case was horrendous and I'm so pleased justice was found in chucking the case out. Nobody like him deserves such awful treatment. 


    But I have to say the book did nothing to change my view that he is an arrogant shyte as to me that's how he came across when he was here and throughout the book. He consistently managed to change the world everywhere he goes and turns a football club around only for others to be blamed for anything that goes wrong or against him. Like when he was here, it was never his fault. 


    One thing that I thought was interesting is when he spoke about footballers going on fan forums and chat rooms (as it was) and how it could affect them. Does go to show that some of our players might come on here now and again.


    Shame the book ends before his next job which was managing us which I'd have been interested to read about. 


    As I said, don't like the bloke but it was a very good read.


    Anyone else read these books or got other suggestions?

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  7. 15 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said:


    I am sure it was just a turn of phrase said in response to a direct question. I take it you have never said 'nothing' when meaning something of relatively little value before or something of that ilk?

    Relatively speaking 37% is not much of the whole is it?  

    Love it when an unfavorable quote is used but then defended by 'it was a turn of phrase'. How convenient.


    Relatively speaking 37% isn't much of the whole is it?


    Well that depends what it relative to. If someone said to you that they were going to reduce your salary by 37% i can't see you saying it was ok cos it's not that much of the whole

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  8. 4 hours ago, 31Dec1966 said:

    It's not up to the football authorities. The country is closed down for 2 months at least. The season is over. Football is not important. 


    Totally agree. I dont even bother to put sky sports news on anymore as everything just seems totally irrelevant. Not that there is much news to report mind. 

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  9. 18 minutes ago, S36 OWL said:


    Problem is, Chansiri won't appoint a big personality, he only appoints yes men. 


    I'm firmly in the Chansiri out camp and have been for a couple of years tbh but i can't totally agree with that. 


    Bruce wasn't a yes man so I do think Chansiri is happy to be more hands off but due to the complete mess his ownership has caused were in a position where nobody in their right mind would want to take the managers role unless they are desperate. And that usually comes with people willing to say yes to anything

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