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  1. The report of the Cromwell cup final from the Sheffield and Rotherham Independent. Sheffield and Rotherham Independent 17 February 1868 The Cromwell Cup The final match for the above prize was played at Bramall Lane on Saturday. The day, though cold, was very fine for the contest, and upwards of four hundred assembled to witness it. The cup is given by Mr. O. Cromwell, who has now been as established favourite at the Theatre Royal for years, and will be presented to the winning club at the Theatre on the occasion of his benefit. The prize was given to be contended for by the four junior clubs in the town, and in drawing for the first event the Wednesday were pitted against the Exchange on the first Saturday in February which will long be a memorable day, as the one in which rude Boreas took great liberties with chimney pots, slates, tiles, and signboards, as the writer had good cause to remember, being in imminent peril from a falling signboard of large dimensions in Waingate. With or against the wind, it mattered not, the Wednesday club scored at both ends. On the following Saturday the contest, Garrick v. Wellington, came off and after a severe struggle the Garrick scored a rouge to nothing. This was consequently the struggle for the prize, and it was thought by some that the Garrick, comprising as it did seven of the best of Hallam, would 'smother' the Wednesday club. A few who felt so certain speculated a trifle of specie at the rate of three to two. The game began in earnest about three o'clock. Dame Fortune gave the Garrick the wind. Very soon they had the ball down at the low end, and someone sent it direct to the Wednesday's goal. The goalkeeper showed bad judgment by kicking at the ball instead of simply stopping it. He missed his kick, and unfortunately for Garrick it hit the goal post and rebounded. They played until half-time without scoring, and then reversing the ends, the Wednesday Club had the advantage of the wind. Both sides now went at it with great pluck and determination, and the ball was alternately at each goal. When time was called neither side had scored. They then agreed to play on, the first score to decided the match. In throwing for choice of goals the Wednesday Club were more fortunate, and this time had the wind. The fray recommenced with redoubled vigour. The sides were well balanced, and all went at it ding-dong. J.Marsh, the Wednesday captain, kept putting in his toe with the precision, celerity and force for which he is well known. Messrs Denton and Whelan played well. Jenkinson and Broomhead worked like a pair of horses, but what pleased us most was to see A. Wood, a little, slim, diminutive youth, vigorously attack and upset the "Giant Shang" amidst the applause of the spectators. On the other side, Henry Ash particularly distinguished himself by his celerity and good play. J.Donovan also worked extremely hard, and frequently got the ball from his opponents, but never made any good use of it afterwards, his kicks evidently lacking steam. Not so Shang; when he got to her she had to travel, and a very long way too. Messrs J. Dale and C. Lee also did good service for the Garrick Club. After playing ten minutes, the Wednesday Club got the ball to the low end, and one of the other side, in making a lick, got too much under. The ball went up almost perpendicular, and in dropping cannoned off someone through the goal. The Wednesday men and their friends, who had assembled in great force, gave vent to their voices, and we have not heard such a shout since the memorable county match v. Surrey, so unexpectedly won. Some excellent play was shown on both sides, but certainly the Garrick showed the most activity, and as a whole we think were slightly the better players. A few of the Wednesday men were well adapted for charging, but a trifle slow. This butting we would have done away with, as it gives the heavy man as undue advantage over the slender, unless the latter has corresponding quickness to compensate. Altogether the match was tolerably free from that unpleasant wrangling which too frequently occurs in football contests. and from the Sheffield Telegraph 17 February 1868 The Cromwell Cup The lovers of football who visited Bramall Lane Cricket Ground on Saturday afternoon had a treat that is rarely witnessed during the season. Some short time ago Mr Oliver Cromwell of the Theatre Royal announced his intention of giving a cup to be competed for by the clubs of the town not exceeding two years old. This arrangement brought in the Garrick (two seasons), Wellington (first season), Wednesday (first season) and Exchange (first season). The two latter clubs met on Saturday, the first inst., when the Wednesday gained the victory. The Garrick and Wellington contested their match on the 8th inst., when, after a severe struggle, the Garrick gained the victory by 1 rouge. The deciding match-Garrick v. Wednesday-is the one to which our remarks apply. at Bramall Lane on Saturday. The weather was beautiful and fine, and nearly 600 person's assembled to witness the contest, great interest being taken in the affair. The throw for choice of goals was won by the Garrick, who chose to kick towards Hounsfield's field, having a strong wind to their back. The players soon became very spirited, each party playing very strong, Garrick for choice, but then opponents were not to be denied. Mr Whelan, who played in the middle, making several good kicks towards the Garrick goal, but Lee was equally successful in sending it back. When the umpires called half time, no score having been made the game was considered slightly in favour of the Wednesday, but yet the Garrick continued to play very strong, several times succeeding in getting the ball near the Bramall Lane goal, but the gallant little captain of Wednesday Club (J Marsh), playing cover goal, was always at his post when required and showed some good play in driving his enemy back. When the time allotted (one hour and a half) had expired no score had been obtained and after a consultation it was agreed to play on, the second being in favour of Wednesday, who played their backs to Bramall Lane. The ball having been set rolling by Jones for the Garrick, it was quickly got down to their own goal by a good kick from Mr Whelan, and after a most severe struggle at the goal mouth, the Wednesday were successful in carrying it through, after playing three minutes in the second play, amidst most vociferous cheers from their friends, thus winning the cup. The play throughout was most determined by each party, but we may mention that Messrs Wheeler, Denton, Marsh and Wood and that of Messrs Ash, Lee and Dean of the Garrick. We are glad to hear that no accident occurred during the game. The cup will, we understand, be presented at Mr Cromwell's benefit. So in the first big game played by Wednesday, we don't know who scored, but it was the first Golden Goal in football history. A couple of weeks later, we played against the Cleggs, who played for Broomhall at the time.
  2. Thank you for digging that article out of the archives and transcribing it. I've sat and looked at my photocopy many times, and I can barely make out a word, because it is such a poor copy. It is fascinating to finally be able to read it. I do wonder a little at the name of our club. The implication is that they were tradesmen playing on their half day off, however if everyone had the same half day off, how could they ever play the members of the Monday Club, or the Tuesday Club, or Thursday or Friday clubs? I would like to find out more about the founders of the Wednesday Club, William Stratford, J. Southron, T. Lindley, H. Woolhouse, G. Dawson and G. Hardisty to see just what sort of men they were. Keith Farnsworth, in his "Before and After Bramall Lane" describes them as "not only some of the town's best players, but several leading small manufacturers". Did each profession have it's own half day, and so all the butchers belonged to the Monday Club, and the bakers to the Tuesday club, or was there more to the name than meets the eye?
  3. What we need is a history of the cricket club. I might book myself into the local studies library and do some research. I could put it up on a web site. I used to run http://www.btinternet.com/~a.drake/ but it was a pain trying to update it regularly. I started up http://swfchistory.wetpaint.com/ because a wiki style site was easier to look after, but it was a bit fussy, so I went for a third web site http://owlsarchive.weebly.com/, which is easier to use, but I'm not sure about the lay out of the A-Z bit. I'll start up a cricketing section of the weebly site and see how that goes.
  4. I'm not fussed about us using it as a gimmick to overwhelm to claims of Sheffield Club, Hallam or the Nottingham clubs. I also realise that the history of the club is not going to be of interest to all Wednesdayites. In fact, I suspect it is of little interest to many. However, I do think we should blow our own trumpet and secure our place as an important club in the general history of football. We were at the forefront of the development of the modern game through forward thinking management and our involvement with the Sheffield F.A. And unlike many clubs (Stoke for one) we have an evidence trail back to our origins. We were connected to the cricket club. We have the statement from the Independent on 6th September 1867, "SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY CRICKET CLUB AND FOOTBALL CLUB. – At a general meeting held on Wednesday last, at the Adelphi Hotel, it was decided to form a football club in connection with the above influential cricket club, with the object of keeping together during the winter season the members of this cricket club. From the great unanimity which prevailed as to the desirability of forming the club, there is every reason to expect that it will take first rank. The office bearers were elected as follows: - President, Mr. B. Chatterton; vice-president and treasurer, Mr. F. S. Chambers; hon. Secretary, Mr. Jno. Marsh; assistant, Mr. Castleton. Committee: Messrs Jno. Rodgers, Jno. White, C. Stokes, and H. Bocking. About sixty were enrolled without any canvas, some of them being the best players of the town." So Sheffield Wednesday were a sports club who played football and cricket, and held athletics meetings at the end of each season. We were instrumental in the creations of Bramall Lane, Sheffield United, and Yorkshire C.C. We were the winners of the second ever football club competition, with the first ever Golden Goal. Our players took part in the first floodlit match. We had a player in the first official England team. One of our players(William Clegg) was the solicitor for Charlie Peace, the Banner Cross murderer. We had two players in the first England test side. There are many ways in which we are important, not just because we are the Wednesday, but because of what we have contributed to the game, and I think we should celebrate that. Not through a game of one-upmanship with other clubs, but through our own merits. Whether that will raise our profile and increase our fanbase, I don't know and I don't particularly care. I just think we should blow our own trumpet, because it deserves to be blown.
  5. Perhaps I should have phrased it differently. Bandy is a game which bears many resemblances to hockey, played on ice, outside. It pre-dates modern ice hockey (as played in the U.S.). But, as far as I can see, the best way to describe it would be Field Hockey played on ice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandy
  6. While looking at the United Wikipedia webpage, it is interesting to note the first paragraph of their "History". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_United_F.C. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sheffield United formed on 22 March 1889 as a football and bandy club[4] at the Adelphi Hotel,Sheffield (now the site of the Crucible Theatre) by the President of the Cricket Club Sir Charles Clegg, as a way of keeping the Sheffield United Cricket Club together during the winter close season, following the departure of Sheffield Wednesday to their new ground at Olive Grove and generating income revenues from Bramall Lane over the winter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They appear to have taken our history, and stolen it. We were formed (at the Adelphi Hotel) as a way to give the cricketers something to over the Winter months. It would have been difficult for United to form a football section to keep the cricketers together over the winter, when United didn't have a cricket team until 1892, 3 years after the football club was formed. Plus, I don't remember ever reading that United had a bandy section (bandy was a form of ice hockey). Notts Forest WERE formed as a football and bandy club. Whoever wrote the history section for United seems to have combined Forests and Wednesday's history. This a possibly because they are mildly embarrassed by the fact that the United football club was formed for purely pecuniary reasons. Wednesday had buggered off to Olive Grove,losing the management committee a significant amount of money, and the 1889 Semi-Final of the F.A. Cup, which was played at Bramall Lane, which showed the committee just how much money football could bring in. So they created the Sheffield United Football Club to chase that winter football revenue. I think this is one of the reasons that our history is important. If we are not careful in writing it ourselves, truthfully, others will write it for us, and untruths and misinformation creep in (like the stupid "Wednesday are pigs because Hillsborough is built on a piggery").
  7. It's interesting that United claim to be the first "United". The Sheffield United Cricket Club was formed in 1854, but it was by no reasonable definition, a sports club. It was created simply to ensure the building and management of Bramall Lane ground. They didn't have a cricket team until 1892, after the football team itself had come into existence. Terrifyingly enough, Wednesday were part of that creation process, because William Stratford, who was a Wednesdayite, was on that first committee that created the entity that is Sheffield United, and Wednesday were one of the six clubs who began playing on the ground after it had been built. The others were Sheffield Club, Broomhall, Milton, Caxton and Shrewsbury. Of those Broomhall and Milton went on to form football sections. I'm not sure of the connection between Sheffield Cricket Club and Sheffield Football Club. At best, Sheffield United were the first sports related body to use "United". They certainly weren't the first United football team in Sheffield. In 1868 (Wednesday's second year of existence, and 20 years prior to Sheffield United) there were two United's in Sheffield, Hanover United and Norton United. In 1870-71 there was the Sheffield United Gym Club playing football, In 1873 there was Owlerton United, and in 1874 Ecclesall United, Park National United and Sheaf United.
  8. I agree with the idea that we should date our ultimate origin to 1820. The Wednesday club was a sports club which originally played cricket (and whose members were partially responsible for Bramall Lane, Sheffield United Cricket Club (and therefore, unfortunately, Sheffield United Football Club) and Yorkshire County Cricket Club. In 1867 they decided to form a football section. Unfortunately the Wednesday Cricket Club were shafted by United when they were thrown out of Bramall Lane in 1893. Even though the football and cricket sections separated before the end of the 19th century, Wednesday F.C. still trace their origins to the Wednedsay C.C., formed 1820 because at the time they were formed, they were the same club. In summer they played cricket and in winter they played football. I have a photocopy of a piece from (I think) the Sheffield Independent on April 20th 1896 of an article about the Wednesday C.C.. This confirms the date of origin as 1820. The article quotes the Wednesday C.C. secretary, L.A. Morley (who I think played at least one game for Wednesday F.C. in the F.A. Cup), who wrote a short history of the club for a committee meeting. Morley said that it was difficult writing the history because many documents were missing, however their one of their oldest members had information on Sheffield cricket from 1820, which included details of a match played by Wednesday C.C.. This member was W Stratford. I think that it is unlikely that this is Wednesday's first president, but it may very well be his son. Unfortunately my photocopy is so bad that it is difficult to read, and I would recommend that someone digs out the original and copies it. I (somewhere) have a photocopy of details of a Wednesday match from 1825, where, if I recall, they played the Friday club at Darnall. I think one of our greatest claims to fame is that we had a representative in the first official football international (Charles Clegg v. Scotland in 1872) and two players in the first official test match (Tom Armitage and George Ulyett, v. Australia 1877). Ulyett even played for the Wednesday F.C. He was a goalkeeper.
  9. It's not a burning flag, but it is a Scottish football supporter. Badly burned football fan to sue rival supporter who set fire to his sheep costume Aug 31 2010 By Amy Devine A FOOTBALL fan who was almost burned alive when a millionaire set his sheep costume on fire is set to sue for damages. Wealthy farmer Peter Wallace escaped jail for torching Arjuna Rabindranath, 24, after he agreed to pay him £25,000. But Aberdeen fan Arjuna said last night: "I don't think I have seen justice or had adequate compensation. Daily Record So somebody sets fire to a Football supporters fancy dress costume on a Train without killing him, and we ban flags on the kop that are made out of fire resistant Material (complete with certificate) and water based emulsion paint, suppose its an easy mistake to make MR R, so is the Death of the Scottish supporter from toxic fumes from a blazing flag you may have got mixed up with ?.
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