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  1. 2 minutes ago, soldierboyblue said:

    Have you been living in a hole for the past 20 years - We have been baying for the PL every year since relegation from it.


    How do you define ‘baying for the PL’?


    It’s been more hope than expectation from me. And no manager has ever been sacked or given a hard time from the fans because they didn’t get us up.
     

    Apart from two years we’ve never been close. And even in those two years the odds were never in our favour to go up

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  2. 4 minutes ago, toppOwl said:

     

    I fully agree but many are citing Brentford as a sterling example of how to run a club, they have never looked like getting promoted but continually sell their best players, our fans are baying for the Premier League you won't attain it doing this.


    When have our fans been ‘baying’ for the premier league? I must have missed that.


    It was DC that gave the two year target for promotion when he took over. Nothing to do with the fans 

     

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  3. 8 minutes ago, toppOwl said:

     

    Buy players with potential and sell at profit - Can you imagine the outcry if we did this


    Is there much of an outcry at Leeds after they’ve sold Chris Wood, Ronaldo Vieira, Kemar Roofe and Pontus Jansson (all for a big profit) over the last few years as they head for promotion?

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  4. 13 minutes ago, soldierboyblue said:

    Not many have richer owners than us.


    You sure? I know to take what’s online, google and wiki with a pinch of salt but these are the estimated net worths of some of the championship clubs owners:

     

    Barnsley $9.1 billion

    Birmingham $570 million

    Bristol City $2.5 billion

    Cardiff $700 million

    Charlton $880 million

    Derby $500 million

    Fulham $7.3 billion

    Huddersfield $475 million

    Forest $650 million

    Preston $720 million

    QPR $18 billion

    Stoke $3.1 billion

    West Brom $1.8 billion

    Ipswich $825 million


    Some of those figures could be way out but the point is there’s a lot of other multi millionaire and billionaire owners in the championship. Chansiri is a relative pauper compared to the likes of Khan at Fulham, Lansdown at Bristol City or Mittal at QPR.

     

    We’re not in this mess because of FFP. We’re in it due to incompetence and mismanagement 

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  5. 2 minutes ago, torres said:

     

    what has that got to do with the initial argument? FFP has stopped us spending 

     

    Other issues are a different discussion 


    The initial argument from Lestrade was:

     

    ‘The galling thing is we finally get a rich owner and due to FFP we are stopped in our tracks.  Then we have to compete against clubs with parachute payments’

     

    What I’m saying is that virtually the entire championship have rich owners and they all have to adhere to FFP

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  6. Just now, torres said:

     

    He said it hasn't stopped us spending!!

     

    We spent too much  - were under an embargo - therefore stopped us spending!

     

    Nothing to do with any other clubs 


    Virtually the entire championship would be spending more without FFP though.
     

    And a lot of them have richer owners than us. It’d be like the wild west 


  7. 1 minute ago, torres said:

     

    Ridiculous comment 

     

    Of course it has!!

     
    Based on what’s online the owners of Fulham, Barnsley, Stoke, West Brom, Bristol City, Preston, Ipswich, Reading and Cardiff are all richer than DC.
     
    Do you think we’re the only championship club impacted by FFP?

     

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  8. 11 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

    Yeah fair enough but that is going to take a number of years and I doubt you would get a major sponsor willing to sponsor us whilst we wait to get promotion.

     

    What does commercial side of the business mean?  Seems a very sweeping statement local advertising and local sponsorship wasn't bringing enough money in. 

     

    I agree ticket prices need revisiting as he has now come to an enpass. 

     

    Your idea may well work but it will take time and fans  will fall away in the meantime.

     

    We chucked money at it by Wednesday standards and the gamble didnt pay off.  

     


    These ‘while we wait to get promotion’ lines need to stop. 
     

    We’re miles away. It’s more like we’re waiting to get relegated.

     

    If we manage to survive as a championship club over the next 18 months and maintain crowds above 20k it will be a massive achievement from where we are now 

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  9. 3 minutes ago, SiJ said:

    On Saturday, I paid £31.00? to sit in the North Stand. 

     

    That is with a £5.00 reduction as I have a Membership. 

     

    £31.00 (£36.00) to watch a bunch of multi millionaires take the pi55 for 90 minutes. 

     

    No thanks. 


    Were you on the north stand or the kop? They’re the kop prices.

     

    It was £34 for members in the north stand on Saturday, £39 for non members


  10. 39 minutes ago, Kameron said:

    What’s the point in raking over this again, it’s been done to death.  The club is f00ked and unfortunately all we can do is sit, watch it unfold and prey there’s something left at the end.  It’s a sad state of affairs but it’s been coming since Chansiri’s two year plan failed, he’s been called out time and time again but the people pointing his failures out were told to f00koff t lane.  


    Yes this has been coming for a few years. But anyone who called it out on here was labelled a bedwetter or told to ‘grow a pair’ by the usuals

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  11. 1 hour ago, mkowl said:

    It is in the July 18 accounts - within the debtors note. 

     

    This will in fact be shown as due from Sheffield 5 Limited - the company that I believe bought the stadium.

     

    But let's not forget DC is owed about the same from the funding of the Clubs losses. So he could play musical chairs with the loans to clear them or indeed simply write them off. Perfectly legit - an option for one of my clients fairly soon post a forthcoming re-structure 

     

    He might just pay down that debt as the route to fund the Club 

     

     


    How did Sheffield 5 Limited buy the stadium when that company wasn’t incorporated until 24 June 2019?

     

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/12066053

     

    Can you backdate a sale to 12 months before the buying company was incorporated?

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  12. Just now, bradowl said:

     

    None I hope. 


    Rhodes and Westwood I believe still contracted until 2021. 


    Bannan, Reach and Lees aswell who are on over 20k a week and contracts expire in 2021.

     

    Other than that we only have Palmer, Iorfa, Borner, Luongo, Wildsmith and Dawson. Don’t think there’s any mega contracts there 


  13. 6 minutes ago, bradowl said:

     

    But as well as owning club he also now owns ground, whatever it was valued at he'll want that money plus rest of it he's thrown at it. 

     

    All these players on mega contracts want paying, so if Chansiri said "that's it I'm not putting another penny in, where does money come from?

     

    We could become next Bury and Macclesfield within weeks not months.


    How many players do we have on mega contracts after the summer?


  14. 40 minutes ago, Minton said:

     

    Because the prices have gone up by 60%...

     

    If we have the same number of fans this season as the last MM season and the prices are 60% higher, that would mean 60% more money. That's fairly simple maffs innit.


    That’s making the assumption we have the same number of fans paying on the door now as under MM which isn’t true.  
     

    The season ticket revenue will have gone up under DC but the POTG revenue has probably gone down.
     

    The most we’ll have made from any league game this season would have been the Barnsley and Leeds games when around 6-7k (mainly away fans) paid on the door.

     

    In 18 home league this season, I don’t think we’ll have made much more than £1 million in combined revenue from POTG tickets. We’ve only got over 25k in four games and that’s with 21k season tickets 

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  15. 1 hour ago, Minton said:

     

    Well our average attendance in 16/17 was 27,129, in 17/18 it was 25,995 and 18/19 it was 24,429.

     

    To say that there are barely any POTG is nonsense.


    16/17 there was as I said.


    This season there’ll be around 21k season tickets.

     

    We’ll have made virtually zero ticket POTG money against Charlton.

     

    Even on Saturday, we’ve sold around 4k POTG tickets so that’ll be about 100k in total revenue from ticket sales we’ve made from the last two home games?
     

    I can’t see where you’ve got a 60% increase in match day revenue from

     


  16. Just now, Minton said:

     

    So we increased the matchday revenues by ~60%. It won't have covered the entirety of the wage increase but we would have failed P&S had we not done it. 

     

    It didn't work, but it was close to getting us promoted. In hindsight, it was probably the wrong call, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.


    We’ve not increased matchday revenue anywhere near 60%.

     

    It will have been better in the season 2016/17 but in the last 3 seasons (apart from the away fans) there is barely any POTGers at most games 


  17. 4 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

     

    What we expect and what occurs so often doesn't happen in all aspects of life.

     

    The leagues are littered with clubs who have thrown money at it and not succeeded. 

     

    I do think he has to rethink his ticketing policy as no one is going to buy into it again.

     

    How he does that is another matter.

     


    A lot of the damage has been done now.

     

    I’ll be surprised if crowds start going up again while DC is still at the club 

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  18. 22 minutes ago, bradowl said:

     

    It will be when we're either top of league, playing Sheffield United or a game like when we played Wycombe when a win seals promotion. 


    If we need to wait for one of those it could be a few years 


  19. 23 minutes ago, bigthinrob said:

    Love the binary thinking.

     

    You’re either a “Chansiriite” or you’re whatever the opposite is.

     

    No room for anything in the middle.

     

    It’s either black or white.

     

    You think he’s absolutely wonderful & hasn’t put a foot wrong or he’s an absolute villain who had deliberately tried single handedly tried to ruin the club.

     

    All a bit childish and not bearing much resemblance to the real world.


    I was replying to a post that said being a Wednesdayite is unconditional. Is that not binary?

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  20. 13 minutes ago, upperwinngardensowl said:

    £30 was a ridiculous amount for a match on BBC1 but not surprising based on the complete lack of understanding of commercial, and football, reality from one man. 

     


    The club underestimated the level of discontentment among the fan base when putting the tickets on sale for this one. DC probably thought it would sell like the Arsenal game did 4 years ago.

     

    We should have given City two ends to get the crowd above 20k


  21. 12 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said:

    Man city sold 11,000 I heard. Does that mean they have the North stand? 


    We have the North, South and kop as usual. City have sold their allocation of 4,499 in the west stand.

     

    Looks like the crowd will be around 16,000 unless we sell a few more between now and Wednesday 

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