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  1. 1 hour ago, hykehamowl said:

    I’d consider letting the club keep this season’s remaining monies if they can confirm that every person at the club earning as much or more than me has given up a similar percentage of their weekly wage, for the good of the club, as the value constitutes of my weekly wage . If not, will be after a refund. 


    Good luck with that 


  2. Decent player for Wednesday was Atherton. Rarely injured, pretty much ever present in the years he was here - must be up there in the most appearances for Wednesday in the last 50 years. Off the top of my head can only think of Pressman, Walker, Worthington and Hirst who’ll have played more games than him for the club.

     

    Main problem was he wasn’t anywhere near as good as the man he replaced. Atherton, Nolan and Pearce were downgrades on Nilsson, Worthington and Pearson.


    Dan Petrescu had the quality to replace Nilsson if we were going to continue competing at the top end of the premier league but we sold him to Chelsea after one season for peanuts. Chelsea got a great deal with Petrescu from us


  3. 1 minute ago, mattitheowl said:

     

    I bet there will be plenty of players on long term contracts who have some really niggling groin strains over the coming months.


    Players at different stages of their careers will have different views.

     

    Someone like Troy Deeney is 31 years old and has made as much money as he’ll ever need out of the game.

     

    But there’ll be young pros and lads in academy squads desperate to play


  4. 8 minutes ago, thewookieisdown said:

    The season won't finish in full.

     

    The choice is finish now, or limp through another three or four games until things become untenable.

     

    So possible a few votes will depend a little on what the next few games are for a club.

     

    The 11 - 13 estimates above look sensible but I think possibly overweight the yes votes. Derby for example are realistically too far away, especially if points are deducted.


    When do you envisage the situation being tenable so that next season can restart? And there’s likely to be another spike next winter so what happens then?

     

    For me, they should restart. Can understand players who don’t want to play or train, respect their decision and it’s up to the clubs what they do with their contracts but the players who want to play should be allowed to 


  5. Charlton have only been in the bottom 3 for one week all season and they’d be relegated under these plans. And they were scheduled to play Hull in their next game who are only 2 points ahead of them.

     

    Any estimates of much Wednesday would lose in season ticket refunds and TV revenue if the season is finished?


  6. 3 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said:

    Clearly the "STAY AT HOME" mandate is more a suggestion than actual directive for many people...


    How long do you think furlough can go on?
     

    2.1 million people are now claiming unemployment benefits in the U.K.

     

    There’s also 8 million people furloughed. The longer this goes on the less chance they’ll have a job to go back to.

     

    The ‘Stay at Home’ mandate isn’t there anymore, it’s been replaced by ‘Stay alert, control the virus’.

     

    A lot of people seem oblivious to the wider damage of just shutting down economies. The knock on effect of the virus is going to be worse than the actual virus itself unless there’s a shift in this 


  7. 2 hours ago, SouthStand75 said:


    Yet again we face players having all The power. They will demand decent wages with a new contract or will look at their other options and we are left to play the reserves with a potential points deduction happening. Suddenly I want the season to be null and void. 


    It’ll be different for each player. I’d have thought someone like Pelupessy would be happy to sign a short term extension to see the season out because he won’t have that many offers in from elsewhere. I wouldn’t say he had much power at all.

     

    But Fletcher and Forestieri are likely to have other offers of at least a 1 year deal. And they’re both at a stage in their career where the next contract they sign could be their last one so would want longer than a couple of months to see the season out.

     

    If Wednesday were to offer players like Fletcher and Forestieri deals just to see out the season, how much would we offer and how much would they want?


  8. 6 minutes ago, DJMortimer said:

    Just one thing to think about - the much vaunted track and trace method has almost no effect on restricting the reproduction of the virus with infection rates at the levels we have seen in the last few weeks. Models estimate that it only reduces the much discussed 'R' rate by about 0.1. But if you wait until the infections are at a lower level, perhaps just three or four weeks in the future, it is suddenly much more effective.

     


    The USA are currently getting around 30k new cases per day, Russia around 10k new cases per day and Brazil 15k new cases per day. Is track and trace viable globally?

     

    Seems likely the numbers will go down in Europe through the summer and then spike again next winter.

     

    Even countries that have been successful at keeping it at bay so far like Australia and New Zealand - are they not just kicking it down the road? They’ll have to reopen their borders and airports at some point 


  9. 13 minutes ago, DJMortimer said:

     

     

    Despite the best attempts to stop it, there have still been 35,341 deaths from Coronavirus in the UK in just a few weeks (almost ten times that number worldwide). Rather a different order of magnitude than all of those items in your list added together.

     

    Suggesting that 100% safety is the only acceptable standard is just the most gigantic of straw men that trivialises some of the issues involved.

     

    And yet again; for some people the issue is no more complicated than the negligible risk of physically fit young men dying of the infection as if none of the other concerns that the world has been talking about for the last 5-6 months ever happened.

     


    What’s your solution then? Sports, pubs, restaurants and airlines can’t reopen or restart until the virus is completely eradicated or there’s a mass vaccine available?

    And how many people do you think would die worldwide with the damage that will do to the global economy and knock on effects in health care in other areas?

     

    If the government is looking to get people back to work, do you think they need to be publishing how many of that 35k figure you’ve quoted were aged under 65 with no pre existing conditions?


  10. Bring it back for me. If players don’t want to train or play that’s their choice but society has to accept the risk and move on as best we can.

     

    The posters saying ‘nothing is more important than a persons life/health’ - at what point do you think football should come back? When covid is eradicated completely? Could be years away.

     

    Helicopters weren’t banned because Matthew Harding and the Leicester owner died in them.

     

    Footballers didn’t stop flying after the Munich air disaster.

     

    Fans still went to games after Heysel, Valley Parade and Hillsborough.

     

    Cars didn’t stop after the Jose Antonio Reyes crash.

     

    Footballers still played after Marc Vivien Foe and Phil O’Donnell died on the field.

     

    Life and contact sports will never be completely safe, it’s up to the individual whether they’re prepared to play and go to games 


  11. 7 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

     

    Mad as it sounds I can't see ANY players turning that down right now when the future is so uncertain for anyone/everyone


    If you’d made as much money out of the game as players like Fletcher and Forestieri would you risk signing a short term deal when you could potentially get injured and then lose out on a 1-2 year deal somewhere?

     

    I would imagine their agents would be steering them away from signing any short term deals and telling them to wait for at least a 1 year deal


  12. 7 hours ago, SouthStand75 said:

    What concerns me is we have a lot of players out of contract at the end of June. What happens if they reject the offer of an extended contract, we will be left in the poo. 


    Does anyone know if all the lads out of contract and on loan like Hutch, Fletch, Forestieri and Wickham are training with us?

     

    What would be our likely starting 11 and subs if we restart sometime in July?


  13. 8 hours ago, S72 Owl said:

    Can’t wait to see what offer Chansiri comes up with this time.

     

    I’m fine with giving fans options but anything other than a refund for every game that can’t be attended won’t sit right with me. 


    Refunds deferred until we’re promoted to the premier league at which point you’ll receive a free 10 year premier league season ticket 

     

    :Chansiri:


  14. 54 minutes ago, McRightSide said:

    This season will be suspended until mid-April. 
     

    The Euros will be pushed out until 2021 and Leagues will be asked to finish up the games with an extended season 

     

    European competitions will get cancelled


    It’s not expected to peak in the UK for 3 months so how could they restart in mid April?

     

    Once they stop it looks like that’ll be it until June at least 


  15. 8 hours ago, Bez said:

    What’s the worst run/period of time you have experienced as a Wednesday fan?

     

    For me, the current run is third worst. 
     

    First would be when we nearly went bust and were in court. 

     

    Second would be when we didn’t score for game after game.  Think Chris Eagles broke that run.  Can’t remember when it was exactly - anyone remember?


    The Chris Eagles goal was away at Burnley on New Year’s Eve in 2005. We won that game 2-1.

     

    We’d gone 7 games without scoring.

     

    I was at that game at Burnley away and this is miles worse. Even though we’d gone ages without scoring (and we had Barry Corr playing up front) the spirit among the fans was still good. We’d only just been promoted back to the championship that year with no real budget so none of us were expecting to be up there.
     

    I can remember no one knew how to celebrate when Eagles scored... we couldn’t believe we’d actually scored.

     

    We then signed Burton and Tudgay in January. It’ll be close in terms of points but as a fan going to games in the 2005-06 season it was better then than it is now 


  16. I’ve heard people say on here Dawson is a good shot stopper. Some of the recent games:

     

    Brentford 6 shots on target, 5 goals conceded
    Derby 5 shots on target, 3 goals conceded 

    Birmingham 4 shots on target, 3 goals conceded

    Reading 5 shots on target, 3 goals conceded 

    Wigan 5 shots on target, 2 goals conceded 

    Blackburn 9 shots on target, 5 goals conceded

     

    Compare that to Wildsmith on Wednesday night where Man City had 9 shots on target and we only conceded once.

     

    A keeper’s primary job is saving the ball when it’s going in the goal and Dawson is not doing very well at that.

     

    I’m not sure Wildsmith is the answer either but he has to be given a run in the team if Westwood remains banished 


  17. 16 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said:

    The club tried to move fans from POTG to having season tickets which was a model the likes of Derby pushed. While we dont have many POTG these days our attendances have averaged around 22500 over the last 20 years.


    Unless something changes we won’t average that next season


  18. 4 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said:

    Just looking back at the 2015-2016 season our average attendance was 22641 which many argue saw some of the best football we have seen in a long time at Hillsborough. Again you would have thought that more supporters would have attended games. I bet we took more than 22641 to Wembley for the play off final? So perhaps the attendance on Wednesday night was to be expected rather than me mistakenly assuming it would be a sell out.

     


    There’s not been many paying on the gate since Chansiri took over. The season after Wembley the average attendance went up to around 27k mainly on the back of increased ST sales.

     

    Now attendances are falling and the club isn’t doing anything to stop them falling. We’ll have to see how far crowds drop before they start going back up again.

     

    On Derby, they’ve consistently had higher gates than us for the last 20 years so no surprise they filled it this week and we didn’t

     


  19. 18 minutes ago, Hack-Abusi said:

    Totally agree. Social Media and Owlstalk would be in absolute meltdown if Dawson conceded that ... coronovirus jokes, flapper, biscuit wrists, worst keeper we've had, can't do this, can't do that etc ...

     

    Wildsmith comes in and does a good job and probably deserves a run of games however, no disputing that. Give Dawson a break from the boo boys and to get his head back on the game. I still think overall, Dawson is the better keeper but Wildsmith does deserve a chance

     

     


    All about opinions but personally I think we’d have conceded 2 or 3 last night with Dawson in goal.

     

    Wildsmith made a couple of excellent saves in the second half.

     

    City had 9 shots on target last night, Dawson’s save percentage over the last two seasons is 64% so going by the stats you’d have expected him to concede more than 1


  20. 2 hours ago, McRightSide said:

    Wildsmith - 7 wonderful saves in the second half, but ultimately a mistake that cost the game. Nice to see a keeper actually save some shots though

     

    Palmer - 9 never felt like his side was a major issue for us. Looked relatively comfortable for the most part

     

    Iorfa - 10 given the opposition that was a wonderful performance. Shame Monk has a rash towards playing him with Börner for 90 mins

     

    Börner - 7 a little bit harem scarem but we gave away zero shots on target and he (sometimes unadvisablely) tried to play a bit of football. Shouldn’t have wasted a sub

     

    Fox - 8 was in for a tough night against a real footballing elite and did pretty well. 
     

    Murphy - 8 started brightly but then spent most of his time mucking out with Palmer in the RB slot...which he did very well at 

     

    Lee - 7 tracked, harried, hustled...passing wasn’t quite as sharp as usual.

     

    Pelupessy - 5 meh. Waste of a shirt

     

    Bannan - 8 one of a few who looked like the actually had the ability to retain the ball. Worked damn hard defensively. Completely ran out of beans on 75 mins

     

    Da Cruz - 4 abject

     

    FF - 8 like Bannan, looked our best option to cause problems by actually having some mastery over the ball.

     

    Monk - hmm game plan was fine, glad we had a couple of players willing to get forward. Didn’t mind we tried to keep it tight and go for an equaliser in the last 10...problem was his terrible first 2 subs had already killed us. 

     


    Are some of those marks a wind up? We had one shot in 90 minutes and none on target.

     

    Agree Iorfa was class tonight, Wildsmith did well and most of the rest put a shift in but player ratings of 8s, 9s and 10s?

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