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  1. 1 hour ago, Hirstys_12th_Pint said:

    I bet the Shrewsbury fans are loving the fact that Liverpool will be playing their under 23s.  They get the opportunity to go to Anfield, crowd will still be high AND they get a better chance of progressing. 


    Personally can't see the fuss.  If any side chooses to field a weakened team so be it. 


    The big clubs get cited for it but looking at the winners of the FA Cup since 1989 then 90% have been won by Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool with 27 wins.


    Yes the chances are if Arsenal had played their full strength team against us in the Carlos league cup run we wouldn’t have beaten them 3-0.


    And if we draw Man City in the next round I’ll be hoping de Bruyne, Aguero etc aren’t playing 

  2. 48 minutes ago, Buxtongent said:


    Surely, these could happen in a league fixture as well?

    Yes but managers aren’t going to rest players for premier league games and then play them in the cup.


    If I was looking to sort the football fixture congestion I’d start by looking at international football. There’s too many international breaks during the season. The nations league hasn’t helped and should the major European countries really be having to play qualifiers against the likes of San Marino and Gibraltar?

  3. 21 minutes ago, southportdc said:

    RE the 'magic of the cup' and anyone being able to win it.


    Since 1960 17 different teams have won the FA cup. 14 different teams have won the top division of English football.


    Man U, Man C, Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Everton have 49 of 59 league titles and 47 of 49 FA Cups.


    It's not exactly random pot-luck.

    If you go back to about 1990 instead of 1960 it’d be even more of a closed shop. I can remember clubs like Wimbledon and Coventry winning it in the 80s but (bar the Portsmouth and Wigan years) it’s been a big club every year since 1990.


    And in the last 5 or 6 years they’ve pulled away more. 

    The last 6 winners of the league cup are Manchester City, Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United, Manchester City, Manchester City.


    The last 6 winners of the FA cup are Arsenal, Arsenal, Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City.

  4. 2 minutes ago, S36 OWL said:


    So the oldest cup competition in the world ( the FA Cup) isn't relevant? 

    Van Gaal sacked straight after winning the FA Cup because they didn’t qualify for the champions league.

    If winning the cup isn’t enough for a manager to keep his job, why would he prioritise it?

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  5. 8 minutes ago, Bannofan said:



    I could tell you the FA cup winners from 1973 - 1993, but nothing after that  ( and it's not because of the trauma!).


    Coincides with the Premier League birth and the slow disintegration of the ' magic'. 


    The FA could easily try going back to big neutral grounds for the semi finals, and kicking back against the money men and sticking to a 3pm Saturday kick off, last game of the season.  


    You remember those finals because (before sky and the premier league) they were virtually the only live televised games of the year. Would you rather it was still like that?

  6. 3 minutes ago, Mole said:

    I seem to remember we played a lot of games in 92/93, I think it was 63 from memory

    And it cost us in the league. We ended up finishing 7th that year when we should have finished 5th.


    Finishing 5th or 7th didn’t make much difference then but there’s a few million on every place now 

  7. 4 hours ago, sweetsheri said:

    Only way to salvage the FA cup for me is to give a Champions league place to the winners instead of the team finishing 4th.


    Don't even know if that would be allowed though but at least it would stop the weakening of teams.

    Would that make much difference? If you look at who’s won it in the last 20 years, they’ve nearly always been in the champions league anyway. 

    Liverpool this year already know they’ve qualified for the champions league so having that incentive wouldn’t have affected how Klopp approached the Shrewsbury game.


    And if a Wigan happens again, would you really want Wigan representing England in the champions league? The champions league is supposed to be the best 4 teams in the country 

  8. 14 minutes ago, vulva said:

    The influx of foreigners, owners, players and managers, many of them mercenary have knackered it. They play lip service to the ‘magic of the FACup’ but in reality don’t give a monkeys. 

    It’s mainly the owners. Van Gaal was sacked straight after winning the FA Cup, Wenger won 3 FA Cups in his last 4 years at Arsenal but was still said to be failing.


    And for owners of clubs outside the top 6 (our owner being a prime example) everything is about getting into the premier league and staying in the premier league.


    Two managers of big clubs you can’t accuse of disrespecting the cups are Guardiola and Mourinho. City won both cups last year and could well do so again this year, Mourinho has always tried to win every tournament he enters 

  9. 4 minutes ago, bigdan2003 said:

    Another myth...


    "Carlos spent all our money"


    Let's be fair here, Chansiri and his "advisor" are as much to blame about the flawed transfer policy and spending- when Carlos arrived he had the benefit of the "transfer committee" behind the scenes. It's no coincidence that during that season there were installed (albeit for a short time) we made some shrewd signings without breaking the bank. It was only after they left we we started chucking money away. 






    This for me. Has Carlos ever said how much input he had on the signings? 

    Who actually made the recommendation and gave the green light to signing Rhodes, Abdi, Jones, Boyd, van Aken, Urby etc?

  10. 1 hour ago, Kanye West said:

    Shame it went the way it did with Carlos because the Wembley season has been my best supporting Wednesday.


    How long have you been watching us? 

    The seasons in the early 90s were better but I even preferred the 2005 and 2012 seasons because they ended on a high instead of that flat feeling after the Hull game

  11. 40 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

    We have two, three goalkeepers who are all quality.


    Should concentrate our hate and venom for other positions.  

    Have you seen the goals on Saturday and some that we’ve conceded earlier in the season?


    I like Dawson but saying we have three quality goalkeepers is pushing it.


    We have two keepers with potential still with a bit to improve on.


    We have one keeper who has been class but is probably past his best

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  12. 6 minutes ago, Nero said:

    To be pedantic we did finish seventh....

    Seriously, I know what you mean. It is a different world. My general point was/is that a team can get hammered in a single game and still have a decent season.

    My post should have said above 7th (instead of about) - predictive text on my phone.


    Yeah football was a different game in 1992 at the top level.


    Agree but it was the manner of the defeat and the performance on Saturday that were even worse than the score line.


    And it’s not a single game, we’ve lost 3 on the bounce at Hillsborough. How often have teams lost 3 consecutive home games to mid-table opposition and still had a decent season?

  13. 21 minutes ago, Nero said:


    Makes a bit of difference. We’ve never finished about 7th in the premier league or premiership.


    The keeper could still pick the ball up from a back pass in 92 and the clubs were evenly matched in terms of finances

  14. 4 hours ago, vulva said:

    The side that came 2nd under Dave Jones in League 1 would finish top 6 in this league. It’s the biggest pile of dogger I’ve ever seen. 

    Give over. Look at the 3 teams who came up last year.... Luton, Barnsley and Charlton. All fighting relegation. Big gap between league one and the championship now.


    When a team with good players like Stoke has been in the bottom 3 most of the season it shows how tough it is to win games in the championship.


    There may not be an outstanding team this year but this is a strong league. If you’re not at it (like we weren’t on Saturday), you get beat

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  15. They were never heroes. Fan favourites maybe but not heroes. They’ve not won anything at the club and their greatest achievement at Wednesday is a play off final we didn’t turn up in.


    And they’re not zeroes now. They’ve just got older or injured and dropped off a bit. It’s football, it happens to every player 

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  16. 6 minutes ago, Animis said:


    He's sole Director.


    I assume Redgate, as FD is left to manage everything directly or with his team. I was told on Saturday that DC brought his family over and they occupied a couple of tables in the directors' lounge before the game. I'm not sure what they think of all this, but they can't enjoy it.

    When you look at the structures in place at West Brom and Leicester we’re missing a Chief Executive, an Operations Director, a Director of football/Sporting Director, a Director of Communications, a chief commercial officer and a senior legal counsel.

  17. 5 minutes ago, Animis said:


    Well - they're clearly not, and were not at the time he said it. After his outburst in Dec 2018, he sacked Jos, and then Katrien Meire left shortly afterwards. He then demoted John Redgate from the board so he could work out a plan to avoid the P&S 3-yr penalties on his own, which resulted in him buying his own asset.


    All his grief, is a direct result of his actions, and non-actions. Any rational person would say, let's try something different or similar to other successful football clubs. He doesn't and we all collateral damage which could get worst before it gets better.


    When Milan said this,

    “From the first time I met Dejphon I felt he was the right person for this fantastic club...His business expertise and passion made him stand out from the other interested parties that I have spoken to..." He may have mistake business expertise for a large bank balance.

    Has anyone replaced Redgate and Meire? It’s startling how far behind other clubs we are off the pitch.


    We don’t just require an overhaul of the playing squad, we need a whole new board of directors 

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