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  1. I suppose every fan has a favourite era of football and fond memories of players.

    As a young teenager the early 60s was mine.

    I was able to go to matches on my own or sometimes on the coach which ran from The Old Heavygate Inn in Crookes.

    Two incidents left me devastated.

    Firstly the departure of Harry Catterick and the subsequent transfer of Tony Kay to Everton,and then of course the loss of Swanny and David Layne.

    Even at the time it seemed that the bans were an injustice and way too severe.

    Springett,Megson,Swan and Kay were iconic figures ably supported by others in that team.

    Happy days.You could even wander from the Kop end to Leppings Lane at half time to watch the attacking end.


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  2. 25 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said:

    I wouldn't mind being a fly on the wall with whats happened last night.


    We'll never know I'm sure. Disclosure agreements etc etc. 


    But I'll say this. 

    Pulis wasn't some young Pup desperately making his way in the game. 

    He has made money out of the game. He doesn't need a career 'post Wednesday'

    He's not beholden to his future earnings.


    I think he's gone in there and given some home truths.

    What did he say the other week

    "I'm going to be brutally honest with the Chairman, not just about the football side of things, but the whole club"


    I think he has. And I think it's dented the pride.

    Either that or the Gloved hand has tapped Chansiri on the shoulder and advised Pulis is the wrong man.

    I think that this is a very fair summary of the situation.

    Pulis was rumoured to be prepared to walk away due to lack of backing,players wages etc.,so Chansiri got it in first.

  3. It ought to be obvious that recent managers have created an unbalanced and poor quality squad.

    Not just the whole squad,but particularly the defending unit for the immediate job in hand.

    Any incoming manager would try to stop conceding goals as a priority.

    There were initial signs that Pulis was achieving this,but it is apparent that some of our players are simply not capable or committed enough.

    To talk about sacking him or talk that he should resign is ridiculous without giving him the opportunity to re shape the first team squad .

    Its not too late to scrape safety if he is backed as far as is possible by the owner and fans.



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  4. 1 minute ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said:

    Consider this. There are 24 teams in the Championship. Only three can be relegated. Therefore 21 managers will find a way to avoid relegation. Many of those managers will play a more attacking style of football. PulisBall is not the only way. 
    Yesterday, Derby, Wycombe, Rovrum, Coventry all also drew. All had more possession. All had more shots. All had more shots on target. All scored. We finished the game with 3 right backs, 3 centre backs, 4 midfielders and no strikers. 

    Which illustrates the unbalanced and weak squad that we have accumulated.You can’t change that overnight and Pulis has said enough about our deficiencies to give some hope that he will address the issues given the backing.

    Anybody who thinks that overnight change is possible with this squad is in cloud cuckoo land.

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  5. 15 hours ago, Flat Owl said:

    RIP Maurice Setters.

    Left his mark on this club and along with Jack turned the ship around.

    Only just seen this thread having just watched the Charlton film.

    I seem to remember that he and Tony Kay left their mark on each other.

    A different game to what we see nowadays.

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  6. 4 minutes ago, Maddogbob said:

    Could be, but might not be. 


    Pulis, we know would cost us a fortune to 1. Get in and 2.Get rid


    We also know it's a horrible watch. Also we know he might save us. However, always the chance he won't. 




    The bit that I do not like or agree with is the newspaper talk of a negotiation over bonus,presumably substantial for avoiding relegation.

    This is a very low bar and does little for the future of the club.

    Any incoming manager should be confident in avoiding relegation so the bonus should be for retaining our place in the Championship and achieving a play off position in the following season.

    A bonus should always be an incentive to achieve an aim.The salary covers the basics.

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  7. If confirmed then it’s the right man for the time.

    Its got to be a step at a time and can anyone really suggest a manager that could transform this team into an entertaining and winning side within a season.

    So it’s very much a case of getting the basics right,and perhaps Monk had begun to at least contribute to solving our defensive frailties.

    He was nowhere near giving us an attacking threat.

    Many have their favourite managers of the past,but Jack Charlton would be well up my list for arresting the decline of our club.

    I hope Pulis could do a similar job.

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  8. I was.1965 to 1975.In the offices.Starting wage £5/2/6d.

    Alternated between the works canteen,upstairs at the chippy/transport caff for lunch.(Once lost most of my weeks money on their tanner fruit machine.

    Then later progressed to New Barrack for a pint and a sausage and chip butty s couple of times a week.

    Had the afternoon off when Wednesday played Santos.



  9. It’s not just about centre halves.

    There was no better sight in football than a measured cross from a winger nodded in by a centre forward who could time his jump to head a goal.

    Denis Law,Wyn Davies,Frank Worthington, Nat Lofthouse and of recent times Cristiano Ronaldo.

    Dixie Dean was supposed to be a bit good but I never saw him.

    Teach kids of an appropriate age,say 11 and over how to head a ball.


  10. Hardly any incoming manager to any team is met with the universal approval of the fans.

    Some of those who seem to be a dream fit fall flat on their faces.

    We will know after half a season whether he can do the job that we hope for.

    Carlos has not left a great inheritance and I hope that he is given the tools to build a balanced and fit squad.

    Personally I am glad that we have not gone for another pick off the merry go round of managers who have failed at this level.

    Good luck Jos.


  11. It might be the best squad in years,but it has some glaring deficiencies.The main job is to clear out the dead wood ,find some pace,and play a settled first team.

    We do have some decent players but collectively they have lost their edge and confidence.

    Home games seem to have become an ordeal for the players and the supporters.

    I hope that Bullen had some of his own ideas and wish him and the players well tomorrow.

  12. We are a mid table side on points and a bottom 6 side in terms of entertainment.

    Stating the obvious that we all want to win, but Carlos is the man responsible for team selection and tactics.

    It doesn’t take a lot to get the majority of the crowd behind the team.We want to see our home sides up for every challenge from kick off to full time.

    You are the man that creates negativity.


  13. Come on Carlos.Walk away with some dignity.

    We are not winning,we are not entertaining and we are not improving.

    The players are not responding to your coaching and most of the supporters are tired of your post match analysis of another poor performance.

    We have lost direction and need a change before any more money is wasted on second rate and injury prone squad players.

    You had a couple of promising seasons but time to move on ,


  14. You tell 'em owlstalk:biggrin: I've only had 10 posts in my history,and I confess that I didn't see the earlier thread on the same subject.

    As for Carlos out threads,I fear that these will continue to appear until such time as he is "out",or perhaps less likely that he provides a consistent formula for entertaining and picking up points.


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