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  1. 51 points
    https://ninetythreetwenty.com/blog/sheffield-memories-hillsborough-the-curse-of-ffp/ I think it sometimes helps to see how other clubs see us......
  2. 38 points
    Bullen is part of a long list of people that need to go.
  3. 38 points
    Call me old fashioned, but I don’t think that telling the majority of your playing staff that they have no future at the club beyond the end of this season, when there’s still a third of the season left, is a clever idea. In fact, I’d say it is fecking stupid.
  4. 37 points
    Regardless of manager/ head coach, nothing will change until Chansiri sells up The vote of no confidence started with the attendance in the City cup game More fans see the underlying issue Season tickets will drop at a HUGE rate Chairman, please sell up
  5. 33 points
    Bullen no where near a legend of this club
  6. 30 points
    "Have you seen the statement,Sir?" "What statement?" "The EFL have said pre-match handshakes between both teams and officials will not take place until further notice because of fears over the spread of coronavirus . The teams will still line up as usual but the home team will walk past the away side without shaking hands." "Good!" "Exactly, Sir, no point in taking unnecessary risks" "Sod the risks, Stubbs, sod the risks. They shouldn't be doing it in the first place. It's a football match for heavens sake. A contest. There's no need for it these handshakes. It's not genuine anyway. It's nothing but fake, manufactured, pretend respect anyway." "I wouldn't go that far s-" "Nonsense! It's a load of old pap. There's simply no need for it. It's just another needless faffing about to try and make the (shudder) 'Product' look more friendly. And quite frankly it shouldn't be. It should be Gladiatorial. I'm not saying there's no place for a handshake, but save it for after when you have soundly thumped them. And if you've had a run-in against a particular oik for a season or two then I see no problem in giving them the cold shoulder before and after the game. Lining up and shaking hands- it's a load of codswallop" CODSWALLOP "I think they're just trying to show-" "Never mind what they're trying to show, it's all fake, all nonsense. Contrived fannying that serves no genuine purpose. Look at the home games. You shake hands with some chap 'all the best' etc etc and barely a minute later he's rolling about on the turf trying to get you booked when he's barely been touched and his goalkeeper is the worst sort of bounder, wasting time on his goal-kicks from the first minute. And I'll tell you another thing!" "I thought you might..." "It doesn't have the same drama, this handshaking nonsense, doesn't create the same buzz as the old days when two teams came thundering down the tunnel, studs clattering, and peeling away into their half of the field . Your skipper vollying a ball high into the sky before raising his arms aloft and applauding the KOP . Your midfield player doing a little zig-zag sprint to the cantilever and clapping. And of course your big centre half taking 3 steps onto the pitch and jumping up pretending to head an invisible ball. That's a proper introduction to the field of play! You just don't see that anymore and the game is all the worse for it." "Well, anyway, Sir, the EFL have implemented this health sanction" "To be honest I'm surprised they don't want a coronavirus epidemic. Might take peoples attention from the fact that Villa and Birmingham have been cleared by the Independent disciplinary commission. They don't want that being the top story! Not when we're next in line. They'll stop at nothing to keep it off the front pages!" "If I maybe so bold,Sir I think they might actually be doing the handshake ban for the right reasons. A risk of cross infection could mean games being played behind closed doors. And that would be a considerable loss of revenue. Some clubs won't be insured for the virus, and the impact of behind-closed-doors matches could be huge. Business interruption insurance is only valid if the Government orders matches behind closed doors. If it's only from the governing body that insurance may not be valid." "Well no bother to us,Stubbs, we don't have any Pay-on-the-gaters these days. It's nearly all season ticket holders isn't it." "Perhaps so ,Sir, but of course that then raises the issue of season-ticket holders and their rights as customers paying for a show that they cannot see. They could demand partial refunds for any behind-closed-doors fixtures. You have paid for something you aren't getting." "Blimey. I'd not thought of that. Though some would argue we're doing that anyway!" "Food for thought,Sir" "Hmm. I'll leave that the boffins to think about. Right, now go and make us another pot of tea, while I reminisce about better times. Times when players sprinted into the centre circle and then just stood about for five minutes doing nothing but a few kick-ups as their full match warm-up and yet rarely seemed to get injured. Maybe we should start doing that again instead of all this skipping over space markers nonsense." --------------------------------- BRENTFORD -V- WEDNESDAY Saturday 7th March Kick off : 15:00pm Griffin Park THE TEAM NEWS --------------------------------- BRENTFORD BRENTFORD are hopeful defender Pontus Jansson will be able to feature for the first time since January. The Bees have won just two of nine league games since the Swede last played, against QPR on 11 January. . Raya Dalsgaard Jeanvier Pinnock Henry Jensen Norgaard Dasilva Mbeumo Watkins Benrahma --------------------------------------------------- SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY WEDNESDAY midfielder Kieran Lee could out with a groin injury picked up in the midweek FA Cup defeat by Manchester City. Defender Julian Borner (hamstring) could play despite having to go off at half-time in that game. Dawson Palmer Iorfa Borner Fox Murphy Windass Bannan Harris Forestieri Fletcher --------------------------------------------------- TEAM FORM ----------------------------------------------------- Match facts Brentford have won their past two home league games against Sheffield Wednesday, winning 2-0 in both December 2017 and August 2018. Wednesday have not lost three consecutive away league games against Brentford since January 1949. Brentford are winless in five Championship games (D4 L1), they last had a worse run in December 2018 (six without a win). Garry Monk has won his two away games in London as Sheffield Wednesday manager, winning at Charlton in November 2019 and at QPR in the FA Cup in January 2020. With captain Pontus Jansson featuring this season, Brentford have won 56% of their Championship games (14/25). Without him, they've won just 18% (2/11). Only Hull City (24) have conceded more Championship goals in 2020 than Sheffield Wednesday (19). ------------------ UP THE OWLS
  7. 30 points
    AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE WHAT YOU HAVE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN THIS SEASON UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP.
  8. 28 points
    Chansiri and Monk - you're as big a part of our problem as they are We will be relegated regardless of the EFL.
  9. 28 points
    Monk has been far from perfect but it’s difficult to apportion too much blame when he’s practically telling everyone that the players aren’t doing as they’re asked and from the outside it looks like they’ve downed tools. They did the same to Carlos, Bullen and Luhukay. Maybe they have too much player power. Shame someone won’t actually come out and tell us what’s really happened behind the scenes rather than us having to rely on rumour and speculation.
  10. 26 points
    DC, Monk and the players are not fit to be associated with our club. DC's mismanagement sickens me. If his 3 cronies come on here tonight saying he has good intentions, they deserve both barrels.
  11. 24 points
    People will protest at Monk. Chansiri is the real issue.
  12. 23 points
  13. 23 points
    Still unbelievable to me that a guy who played for Newcastle, Spurs, Marseille as well as us calls 'us' his team and still lives here with his family. Special club this, shame about the people involved with it now who don't seem to feel the same. Fair play Chris.
  14. 23 points
    Get out of our club monk you ain't got a fk ing clue Aa for the team, your a total disgrace
  15. 23 points
    I couldn't give a flying fuuvk. Don't care as long as they are a player.
  16. 22 points
    Seriously? Not good enough! Let's face facts MONK needs to go! Pack ya bags and plss off!
  17. 19 points
    Seriously, not many clubs will put up with the way we’ve been ran and the football being served up. 5-0 down at this level is a joke. And it’s the second in the space of a month. Not to mention the 3-0 defeats to Reading and Derby. The club has a lot to answer for. There is a lack of professionalism throughout and that is unacceptable.
  18. 19 points
    Very simple. I started a few games ago, ST holder and I won’t go again this season - nor will I renew for next season. you want to protest? Empty seats is by far the best way.
  19. 18 points
    Asked him why he was fecking clueless and looked like Tin Tin
  20. 17 points
    It's dire. His team selections are flipping dire. Prove me wrong.
  21. 16 points
    An owner who insists on the final say on everything, but is never there. His little helper who hangs around the training ground smoking and dictates transfer policy. Senior players who think they can do as they please and then spit dummy out when they can't. Lots of overpaid mediocre players who don't give a sh*t. An assistant manager who has seemingly got a job for life, who's main skills are waving his arms about and throwing balls up for heading practice.
  22. 16 points
    I feel like we’re rapidly reaching a point where the virus is no longer containable, the elderly and people with medical conditions should exercise all the precautions they can take. The rest of us just need to get on with our lives because quite frankly the economies of the world can’t afford to stop for this. The truth of the matter is that the implications to people’s lives will be more widely felt through their jobs and wallets than through any long term risk to health.
  23. 15 points
    Bannan runs his balls off every game, but he's surrounded by third rate players. Its fashionable to blame him and somehow claim he's 'the problem'.. "he drops too deep" he should stop moaning" "he has one good game every five" Fact is, he's the least of our problems. He is a very, very good footballer in a very, very average side. You could put David Silva in our side and he'd struggle to make an impact. His game is about knitting things together when we're in possession and to do that he needs willing, intelligent runners. We consistently have neither. Bannan can still be the engine of the team, but the wheels have fallen off and the exhaust is dragging along the floor.
  24. 15 points
    Perhaps you should start adding the option 'None of the above'?
  25. 15 points
    The only thing in the universe slower than Dawson’s reactions is this site on matchday.
  26. 15 points
    Blame the thick cockney prat who decided to play him. Dawson is in poor form. We get Wildsmith in who has a good game, and then he puts Dawson back in. Monk is totally stupid and is ruining Dawson by continually playing him just because he's decided that he isn't playing Westwood no matter what, and he only wants to give Wildsmith token games. Monk is the issue, not Dawson.
  27. 15 points
    His point is that no one is going to invest in the stadium if they can’t also spend on getting top players/manager to get into the top flight. The two go hand in hand is his point, it’s not that he doesn’t understand FFP.
  28. 14 points
    And Glenn Roeder. And Adam Pearson. And Paul Senior. And Jonathan Hill. And Joe Palmer. And Steve Bruce.
  29. 14 points
    Yeah, that'll be it.
  30. 13 points
    Can’t even be bothered to attack or defend Monk. Waste of energy when replacing him won’t make much difference. He’s not the real problem. We’ll not get lucky with another manager of Bruce’s calibre. Not with the possibility of a points deduction. If he appointed an unknown they’ll not achieve much in our current situation. It’s only going in one direction until the owner leaves or gives proper control to someone capable.
  31. 13 points
    Think that’s one of the best football articles I’ve ever read. Sad though 😩
  32. 12 points
    Bullen should have gone a long time ago.
  33. 12 points
    His new haircut has given him all sorts of confidence
  34. 12 points
    Bit harsh on Giddings
  35. 12 points
    He has to go , I don’t understand his formations , his selections , style of play , barring players , picking players out of form , chopping changing every game , enough is enough we are an embarrassment, get him out NOW
  36. 12 points
    Wildsmith and FF definitely deserve to start. Great way to reward players for performing Monk you flipping clown. Adding insult to injury by starting Pelupessy who doesn't deserve to be in the squad on recent performances. The sooner Monk fizzes off the better.
  37. 12 points
    Might cause a few selection problems for the first team squad.
  38. 11 points
    Colin would have got us promoted if all the wet fannnies hadn’t kicked of a few seasons back.
  39. 11 points
    Yeah he's lost it. Feel for any manager who takes the Wednesday job, it's a poisoned chalice. And there's still people who think Bruce left just because he loves Newcastle. He knew this club was on its arse and got out as quickly as he could. Don't blame him one bit.
  40. 11 points
    I keep bemoaning the fact that for the first time in our history We are a club with money. But are not allowed to spend it. The 'Wednesday way'
  41. 10 points
    Nothing to do with you but I'm bored to death of people putting together scraps of information and dealing in speculation. Some [email protected] needs to come out and tell us what is going on. We've got to the point that we need to know. Most people are going to walk away from the [email protected] soon.
  42. 10 points
    I felt sorry for him tbh clearly massive issues behind the scenes Even if Monk decides to walk or if he is sacked, NO-ONE else will come in and fix this absolutely shower bad times
  43. 10 points
    Neg away if you like but Warnock would sort us out as a short term project.
  44. 10 points
    I’m starting to find it difficult to find the words to sum up how much I loathe this team. The club is f*cking dead on its arse. Finished.
  45. 10 points
    A cold evening in Sheffield and a match that won’t take up too much running time on the end of season DVD caused my mind to roam free at Hillsborough. As I watched on from the benighted Leppings Lane End, thoughts turned to Financial Fair Play again. Inspired by the 37th recitation of the “Going up, Going down” song of the evening, I noted the implications not for us, but for our opponent, a club we haven’t played much recently but in the 80s and 90s we played year after year – and more often than not, lost. Sheffield is an important place to me. I lived and worked there, my first child was born there. The first house I bought was one of the never-ending Victorian terraces you drive past as the Snake and Woodhead passes disappear into the rear-view mirror. As a blue on the wrong side of the hills, I also annoyed the entire local population by declaring what used to be called a “soft spot” not for one of the city’s two major clubs, but both of them. This probably explains my shortage of friends, as such an attitude is correctly treated with identical contempt by both Blades and Owls. I was gutted that work made the trip to Bramall Lane impossible so when we drew Wednesday in the Cup, the diary was cleared. I remembered with affection the outstanding team of Chris Waddle, David Hirst, Des Walker and above all the criminally underrated Roland Nilsson that won the league cup in 1991, came third in the League in 1992 and reached and lost both domestic cup finals in 1993. They were several cuts above the City team of the time and definitely the most entertaining team in the country to watch. As always, Hillsborough is magnificent in its faded glory and gut-wrenching in its memories of tragedy. The walk from the pubs close to the Barracks, through Hillsborough Park and towards the hulking stadium is a treasure, something for the bucket list of any travelling fan. Once you are there, the stadium is enclosed by yet more Victorian housing, the River Don and the A61, the main road out of Sheffield towards Barnsley, the M1 and Leeds. To reach the main South Stand, one of the most architecturally important sporting buildings in the world, you must cross a bridge over the Don. It is one hell of an entrance. But the visiting supporter walks past and turns right on to Leppings Lane. There’s a gap in the terraced housing on the right, an open space and a forecourt leading to what they euphemistically call the West Stand. The structure is the same. It was turned into a “good enough” seated facility 30 years ago. For whatever reason, it wasn’t demolished and rebuilt as a start of the art stand, as cutting edge as the adjacent South Stand when Archibald Leitch built it in 1903. The West Stand – if they insist on calling it thus – is again showing its age. It is obviously still superior in every way to what was offered to away fans in the 1980s, but it isn’t good enough for 2020. To give just one example, the giant Gents’ toilet in the top tier had a grand total of two sinks and one container of soap. Coronavirus anyone? It would also be nice if the bar areas underneath the stand weren’t uncomfortably overcrowded in this of all places and if we could hear the PA – I respect the opposition sufficiently to want to know which Wednesday player is being subbed off and which is coming on. But when you get in to the stadium, through the cramped concourses with only the most rudimentary facilities and see the pitch, then it’s difficult not to fall in love with the place. The stadium looks classically beautiful and the steepness of the structure means that – apart from the old-school pillars holding up the roof of the stand, the sightlines are excellent. Goodison Park this is not. But of course we know what happened here in 1989. It’s conflicting and when Aguero scores he celebrates, completely unwittingly, on the spot a lone ambulance once stood. The thing is, Sheffield Wednesday and their fans deserve better. Was their stadium less safe than others in 1989? As someone starting to travel away with City regularly around then, I am not sure about that at all. But they are imprisoned by a tragic history, a beautiful and historic stadium in a striking but logistically challenging location. They also have, on last night’s evidence a team capable of sustained hard work and concentration but lacking the quality to break out of mid-table in the Championship. So how can Wednesday, League Champions in 1904, the year Billy Meredith’s City won the cup and perennial rivals in the 1930s when the Blues and the Owls vied for major honours year after year, give their stadium the restoration it and they deserve and progress on the pitch? They are going to need money. And a lot of it. The sensitive modernisation of Hillsborough looks like a 10 year project to me. All four stands need work, the planning application would be complex and the river, the road and the local residents would all present challenges. But a new Leppings Lane Stand, one that can offer a first rate safe fan experience while overcoming the difficult geography, stylistically complements the South Stand it abuts and is a fitting memorial to the 96 must be a dream commission for any architect interested in sports stadia. Such a stand will not be cheap. And that is where FFP comes in. Throughout their history, Wednesday have never had quite enough money. Right now they don’t have the resources to do anything beyond a patch-up job. However, in spite of this chronic, decades, maybe even century-long under-investment, 25,000 people turn up to watch a mediocre team wander around the middle of the second tier. That’s not far off the “proof of concept” Khaldoon talked about when Sheikh Mansour bought City. 40,000 would watch in the Premier League. 50,000 would watch them if they were at City’s level. They have a very distinctive brand that a good digital marketing team could have real fun with and come from a city that might not have invented football as we know it, but undoubtedly played a central role in its development and formalisation. That’s an attractive prospect for an investor with deep pockets prepared to invest substantially in the short term for a longer term payback. But FFP stops this in its tracks. Sheffield Wednesday would need to lose money heavily for 5 years refurbishing their stadium and building a competitive team that would attract fans to watch them live and on screens across the world. FFP says an investor can’t do that. They can’t spend that sort of money only to continue to put average players on the pitch. The sums won’t add up in the Championship. So Wednesday are frozen where they are, patching up the historic asset that is their blessing and curse as best they can and unable to pay better players than the spirited journeymen that gave City a decent but ultimately losing game.They have such an investor already in their billionaire owner, but can’t make full use of his ample resources, with said owner selling the ground to himself to try and circumnavigate FFP. He failed to beat the sysyem, leaving Wednesday looking at a points deduction and possible relegation. By blocking investment, FFP does not allow Wednesday fans to dream. And that’s what it’s all about. The elite would now consider Wednesday a “new entrant” and a “disruptor”. A club formed in 1867 that was winning the League before the Wright Brothers had demonstrated heavier than air powered flight was possible, a club who saw strong teams broken up by the outbreak of two World Wars and had another fine team in the early 1960s managed by the great Vic Buckingham – the man who coached West Bromwich Albion, Wednesday, Ajax and Barcelona, gave Johan Cruyff his debut and inspired Bobby Robson to be manager – that was laid low by a bizarre match-fixing scandal. They have been out of the top tier for 20 years now. While no-one is guaranteed a seat at the table, that is the Premier League’s loss. In spite of the notorious chapter in its history, Hillsborough is a cathedral of English football, one of the great places of the world game. It is everything Goodison Park is claimed to be, but isn’t. Without any prospect of the investment FFP specifically legislates against, they are stuck in a loop, a heritage club unable to compete with the elite on the day the music stopped and Wednesday, in part down to a failure to foresee and manage the implications of the Bosman ruling in the late 1990s, were found standing up without a chair. And that is what FFP is about – not crushing the dreams of City – because they will probably end up having to tolerate us, no matter how classlessly nouveau riche we are, but ensuring that if we slip through the net, others don’t. There’s no point an investor restoring Hillsborough unless the same investor can put on Premier League and ideally Champions League football in it. So the door is slammed in the face of Sheffield Wednesday, and Leeds United, Aston Villa, Newcastle United and Nottingham Forest. And it will also question the viability of a beautiful, tragic stadium. Hillsborough is well worth saving. And once last night’s admittedly amusing rivalries are put to bed, we should accept that Sheffield Wednesday were worthy rivals for 100 years. And should be again.
  46. 9 points
    He's right, but everyone saying all the right things and continually putting in pathetic performances wore beyond thin some time ago.
  47. 9 points
    This will have to be a rollover week. Add this week's ratings to next week's and see if anyone can get up to 6.
  48. 9 points
    A good start would be to rip that fu##in “ Thank you delphon chansiri “ banner down !!!!!!!.....sitting in front of that paying £40 a ticket... we must be mental !!!!!
  49. 9 points
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