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Perhaps we needed the 1m fee or we would have been worse off in terms of FFP for this season. In regards to what we owe Boro for him. We are stupid. But are we that stupid. Clearly Monk would have said he wasnt going to play what with all the strikers we signed. I just think before we all have another pop at the club. We should probably know all the facts.

“probably have to win seven, eight, nine games now which we are capable of.”

The sooner we have new ownership the better. Respect for Chansiri for giving it a go, but sadly it hasn’t worked out. Absolutely baffling decision to let someone stay at the club for 5 months who won’t get picked for the first team

Sorry if posted elsewhere. I've just read that a deal was agreed for them to take Rhodes on loan until the end of the season, they were paying his wages in full, at the last minute Chansiri demanded a £1m fee and that was the end of that. Rhoades will now sit out the remainder of the season on huge wages that could have been spent elsewhere. And we wonder why we are financial fizzed. Incompetence of the highest order.

Must have been playing with a groin injury for about 3 years then. Always plays deep.

He might be the key to stave off relegation

“I don’t think that was ever really the number one aim. Of course, that’s the ambition and we all want to fight for it. We’re going to fight for it. But if I’m honest at the start of the season it wasn’t an ambition for anyone, realistically. That’s not to say we shouldn’t be fighting for that, we are.” That was the quote. The general consensus on here after Bruce left was that mid table would be a realistic aim. Easy to take a headline and bash a manager you maybe never wanted. Which is what many seem to be doing currently.

Some people on here don’t let facts get in the way of a chance to have a pop at the club, they thrive on the negativity.

Given the EFL have released statements at every stage of the proceedings i cannot believe they have won the arbitration side of things and moved to and completed the disciplinary hearing without releasing a statement to that effect. As i said above, from the Rhodes thread, some people on here love to feed the negativity.

I think we lost control of that game before the game started when Carlos decided to drop Lopez and bring back Hutchinson

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesdays-surprising-ambitions-season-according-barry-bannan-1888189 Think he's cracking up mesen

Isn’t this a hearing to find out if the charges are lawful, which if they are would then lead to a hearing to find out if we are guilty? I honestly don’t see how anyone could know what potential punishment we will face at this stage.

Tbf, it doesn't take a footballing genius to reach the conclusion that we are not particularly well run. Chansiri has spent up to 150 odd million? Bar the initial upturn, we are now no better than before he came here. For the investment he has put in, we should be in the Prem or at the very least knocking on the door. An inability to buy/sell at the right time (he can't even buy his own stadium at the right time) has cost us and will continue to do so until he pulls his head out of his own backside.

Those clubs are all run a lot differently to ours. We have no CEO or DofF, we only have 7 or 8 outfield players contracted to the club next season, we’re facing an EFL charge and (in terms of promotion) another season has already passed by. It’s bizarre that there’s still posters on here that think DC is doing a good job

I have never come across any other business that operate with wages costs amounting to 130%+ of the total annual turnover. I have never come across any other businesses that are willing to give employees carte blanche on what they earn. I am led to believe that our club made losses equivalent to the full three years' permitted losses in one year alone. I think that FFP or P & S is far from perfect. Adjustments are necessary but there needs to be some mechanism for reining in the excessive spending that occurs in football. Regardless of what you say, there are clubs that do operate within the constraints of P & S. Some can also do so and maintain competitive league positions or even promotion. I would rather not use it as an excuse. I would rather use it as a reason to adjust the status quo. As for my business, I have constraints put on losses I am permitted to make. Some of them are generated by creditors, some by government but most are self regulatory.

I'd love to see a business structure set up. D.O.F CEO, people who know football inside out. Experience throughout the club in all departments. Above all, guidance for the owner rather than having to wait for him to sign off on the bog rolls. It just seems right now that its Chansiri who runs the lot lock stock etc.

If you hang around another hour or so I’m fairly confident he will top trump it.

Referred to the other day by Jamie Carragher as the greatest penalty he's ever seen in his life.

Traffic slow Neil?

HOLY poo. Game on? Red Bull Wednesday.

Well, I for one think it's a good move. It's not like they're removing heading from the sport, just limiting its use with kids. Most kids hate heading the ball anyway so it'll not be a big miss. They can concentrate with keeping the ball on the deck, and introduce heading once they've got the other basics of the game sorted.

I think it's all about avoiding relegation now.

To be fair, I’d settle for something more realistic like keeping a clean sheet before the end of the season.

Cant be arsed to skim through 27 pages you sarcastic gimp. Hence the question.

Westwood would have saved that.

If there is some hope in reaching the playoffs is Fletch the key man to make this happen? 2 home games coming up 6 points minimum! Let's have some real focus on achieving this! Come on Wednesday!!!!!!!!

Never been captain material. Constantly looks defeated.

I played my first full game at 6 yrs old with a ball like this and my last at 48...always enjoyed heading the ball so up to now at 67 no real damage...although I did agree with guru once on here so it could be coming on

If and when we get points deducted we have one person to blame and it isn't Gibson or any other chairman from any other club, nor is it the EFL or their rules.

Without Fletcher - P13. W2. D3. L8. (0.7 points per game = a 32 point season) With Fletcher - P21. W10. D6. L5 (1.7 points per game = a 79 point season) Yes he is key. No we can’t make the play-offs. We’d need to win at least 9 of our final 12 games. We aren’t going to do that.

Our team are there all ready on the jockey theme.

And those players for the 'good old days' are three and a half times more likely to develop dementia.

I ONCE READ on a sh*thole wall...'drinking the john smiths in here is like making love in a boat, it's f***ing close to water'.

It was never a realistic ambition - the morale boosting words of our own manager.

You've clearly misjudged the mood of the thread here. We're not looking for an accurate report of what's actually happened, nor even of what's been published by those bastions of truth The Sun and HITC; we're looking for an opportunity to spew some bile towards Chansiri based on one Owlstalker's misreading of a potentially made-up article. If you want to join in, I'd suggest you preface your condemnation with 'If this is true...' just in case, though.

If we get found guilty, don’t blame Gibson. There is an inference on here that we are in the dock because of Gibson. Looks like he’s raised the issue, and to be fair it’s dog eat dog in football, so if he hadn’t done it, 22 other Chairmen in this were probably queuing up.

They would have to do an awful lot of commenting if they replied to all HITC rumours.

Looking at these statistics, perhaps we gave away the key. Without Lucas Joao - P33, W11, D9, L13 (1.27 points per game = a 58 point season) With Lucas Joao - P1, W1, D0, L0.(3 points per game = a 138 point season)

Another example of the pc brigade getting their own way and the world going mad

New FA guidelines come into force next season

Damn Minton

Sorry ,I used to run a successful business for about 20 years and I never came across any other business where the owners were effectively prevented from putting money in to cover any losses or to buy assets etc and I wonder what type of business yours was ? That club across the city which is now being lauded for doing things the right way is the one that spent ,was it 6 years in the pub league ,has a great youth/academy set up but always sold its best young players,an owner that never put any money in to buy better players ,loaned the club money but for a very nice rate of interest thank you.I think if we ever had a chaiman like that he would be hounded out very quickly indeed.Their present success has been brought about by finding an excellent manager and not by any great plan or the way the club was run but in spite of McCabe

Hilarious. I still think of what might have been if BB had bossed the game at Wembley. Sadly that day was like men against boys in midfield.

I'm going to believe him without actually doing the numbers. Would prefer to have a glimmer of hope then none at all.

I have no idea if this is true or not. Never heard of this site, I refuse to take something posted on a not-vetted website as gospel truth. I can't believe how many of you are jumping off the deep end with this already, though. For me, I have enough verifiable grievances with DC's stewardship already. I don't need "I heard, they said".

there is one undeniable fact regardless of the nuances surrounding these stories: we have been unable to shift players. Whatever the causes might be, it ultimately boils down to Chansiri. Only an idiot would ignore an obvious pattern

you would lose her in that cellar