Fibonacci91 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I don't wanna be accused of hiding, so just thought id make my point. Ultimately we have only lost once on what was a poor opening day. We have improved each game as have certain players. Will we get in top 6 over the course of the season? With players like Reach and Jones playing most games with Hunt and Pudil at full backs most of the time Without any directness or pace or an out ball going forward, someone who can break lines out of nothing against the top side With too many strikers who will get 12/13 instead of 22/23, none of whom will ever get a run due to the amount of strikers we have in the side. Without an anchor in the midfield for at least half of the season Without a top centre half next to Lees When we will probably play flat 4-4-2 even against good sides with 3 good midfielders when our two are a physically weak Jones and Bannan Personally, I don't think we will break the top 6 without a change in formation or players at the club. Hopefully after the win we can go on a good run, id love to be proved wrong. Think between 8-11 is where we will finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Not the I'd love to be proven wrong dogshiiite...who are you fu*king kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 He does make a couple of good points though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Not read it can't be arsed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Fibonacci91 said: I don't wanna be accused of hiding, so just thought id make my point. Ultimately we have only lost once on what was a poor opening day. We have improved each game as have certain players. Will we get in top 6 over the course of the season? With players like Reach and Jones playing most games with Hunt and Pudil at full backs most of the time Without any directness or pace or an out ball going forward, someone who can break lines out of nothing against the top side With too many strikers who will get 12/13 instead of 22/23, none of whom will ever get a run due to the amount of strikers we have in the side. Without an anchor in the midfield for at least half of the season Without a top centre half next to Lees When we will probably play flat 4-4-2 even against good sides with 3 good midfielders when our two are a physically weak Jones and Bannan Personally, I don't think we will break the top 6 without a change in formation or players at the club. Hopefully after the win we can go on a good run, id love to be proved wrong. Think between 8-11 is where we will finish. Bacon prat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 And I said that without even reading your rubbish. Have a nice day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Right on sister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci91 Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, pgmetcalf said: And I said that without even reading your rubbish. Have a nice day! Funny, the only guy that read it reckons I make some decent points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlandished Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Swore Carlos has already played something other than a flat 442 this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci91 Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Just now, owlandished said: Swore Carlos has already played something other than a flat 442 this season? Ye but he also assured us he will mainly play a flat 4-4-2 as this is our main formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Fibonacci91 said: Funny, the only guy that read it reckons I make some decent points I have read it. It's pointless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci91 Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Just now, MallorcaOwl said: I have read it. It's pointless Is it though... Tp disagree fine, to come here and say i have made zero relevant or worthwhile points is complete idiocy. Argue against my points man, tell me Jones is good enough to play anchor in Hutch's absence Convince me that the full backs are adequate enough. Tell me why you wouldn't trade in 3 or 4 of our strikers for 1 that will score 20 goals Tell me the way we play is effective enough to not need an out ball occasionally with some pace, especially against good teams Im all ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlandished Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Just now, Fibonacci91 said: Ye but he also assured us he will mainly play a flat 4-4-2 as this is our main formation. What he says and what he does can often be different We changed from a flat 442 formation during the game v Fulham and won Would suggest to me Carlos is pragmatic, as I guess all managers need to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci91 Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Just now, owlandished said: What he says and what he does can often be different We changed from a flat 442 formation during the game v Fulham and won Would suggest to me Carlos is pragmatic, as I guess all managers need to be Fair point but I dont think we can afford to play 4-4-2 and have to change all the time. He should recognise our most effective formation is not a flat 4-4-2 as opposed to trying it in the hope that it works but being willing to change it half way through if it doesnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offalyowl Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Iv read it and there is some very good points, just because they differ from yours, don't me him a pig, we all know we need a CB and anchorman as hutch is injury prone and we have so many strikers that rotates just to keep them happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdiwonderland Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 All good points. Good, totally original points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple O Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I've read it. I must congratulate you on your thoughts. Have you ever thought of writing Childrens fiction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Our forwards have got at least 60 goals a season in them, but they don't/won't score that many because of their deployment. The real problem we have is that, with the exception of Lees, our defenders are not of the same quality as our forwards. That's why Carlos plays pragmatically and covers up. The irony is that we've got one of the best forward lines in the league, but can't fully use it because of our defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 21 minutes ago, Fibonacci91 said: I don't wanna be accused of hiding, so just thought id make my point. Ultimately we have only lost once on what was a poor opening day. We have improved each game as have certain players. Will we get in top 6 over the course of the season? With players like Reach and Jones playing most games with Hunt and Pudil at full backs most of the time Without any directness or pace or an out ball going forward, someone who can break lines out of nothing against the top side With too many strikers who will get 12/13 instead of 22/23, none of whom will ever get a run due to the amount of strikers we have in the side. Without an anchor in the midfield for at least half of the season Without a top centre half next to Lees When we will probably play flat 4-4-2 even against good sides with 3 good midfielders when our two are a physically weak Jones and Bannan Personally, I don't think we will break the top 6 without a change in formation or players at the club. Hopefully after the win we can go on a good run, id love to be proved wrong. Think between 8-11 is where we will finish. Will we make top six this season? Too early to say. My gut feeling is yes, whether that is with or without Carlos. I think this is the season where DC may pull the trigger if we don't look like competing. Reach is underrated. He works hard and shows flashes of quality. He's a steady player and one who I suspect is affected by confidence. Word for word how I would describe Jones as well. Hunt is a good and solid player and so is Pudil. I will concede the point that our full back positions are probably our weakest though. Every one of our four primary strikers could tear this division a new a**hole. Winnall, Rhodes, Hooper and Fletcher are all top players in this division and would walk into many starting 11's. We don't need an anchor in midfield. It's been clear as day since Hull that we need an athletic box-to-box midfielder. I agree we need a top centre back to partner Lees. Formation doesn't matter (to a degree). Philosophy and strategy does, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 We've got Rhodes, Fletcher, Hooper and Winnall up front. So, considering the defenders at other clubs in this league, if our defence were of that standard who would they be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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