Woodseats Owl Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 44 minutes ago, Sham67 said: There's only one consideration. The ground must be no more than 30 minutes walk from our house. On that basis It has to be Graves Park or the Transport ground at Meadowhead. Cheers UTO'S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Woodseats Owl said: On that basis It has to be Graves Park or the Transport ground at Meadowhead. Cheers UTO'S Graves park would take a lot of flattening imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, Woodseats Owl said: On that basis It has to be Graves Park or the Transport ground at Meadowhead. Cheers UTO'S That's more than 30 minutes by car from our house. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodseats Owl Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Graves park would take a lot of flattening imo. OK you've spotted a major flaw in my plan, Transport Ground it is then for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OasisOwl72 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I'm not ITK but a very reliable contact told me DC is seriously considering moving from Hillsborough. Apparently architects have been asked to look at feasibility at sights at Oughtibridge and Westfield. I'm no financial expert either but I was told the cost can be covered in 25/50 year loan that would more than pay for itself over time especially if we got in Prem. SAG are a double edged sword to DC. A massive annoyance on one hand but part of justification in moving if it came to that. Ultimately I, like I'm sure we all do, want us to play at a modern, atmospheric ground that is a pleasure to visit and can utilise our support not suppress it. Sadly capacity wise for big games Hillsborough/SAG/SYP do the latter at the moment. Which ever meets all the positive criteria whether it be Hillsborough or a new ground that's all that counts for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, OasisOwl72 said: I'm not ITK but a very reliable contact told me DC is seriously considering moving from Hillsborough. Apparently architects have been asked to look at feasibility at sights at Oughtibridge and Westfield. I'm no financial expert either but I was told the cost can be covered in 25/50 year loan that would more than pay for itself over time especially if we got in Prem. SAG are a double edged sword to DC. A massive annoyance on one hand but part of justification in moving if it came to that. Ultimately I, like I'm sure we all do, want us to play at a modern, atmospheric ground that is a pleasure to visit and can utilise our support not suppress it. Sadly capacity wise for big games Hillsborough/SAG/SYP do the latter at the moment. Which ever meets all the positive criteria whether it be Hillsborough or a new ground that's all that counts for me. I'm done if we move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OasisOwl72 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Big Ron's Sovereign said: I'm done if we move Why? I thought we are Wednesday fans not Hillsborough fans. What, if seems likely, Hillsborough can't meet future needs to prosper? I'm not necessarily advocating a move I just don't get at all why it should make any fan be "done". Arsenal, Man City, Derby, Middlesbrough etc have all moved and have increased not reduced support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 53 minutes ago, OasisOwl72 said: I'm not ITK but a very reliable contact told me DC is seriously considering moving from Hillsborough. Apparently architects have been asked to look at feasibility at sights at Oughtibridge and Westfield. I'm no financial expert either but I was told the cost can be covered in 25/50 year loan that would more than pay for itself over time especially if we got in Prem. SAG are a double edged sword to DC. A massive annoyance on one hand but part of justification in moving if it came to that. Ultimately I, like I'm sure we all do, want us to play at a modern, atmospheric ground that is a pleasure to visit and can utilise our support not suppress it. Sadly capacity wise for big games Hillsborough/SAG/SYP do the latter at the moment. Which ever meets all the positive criteria whether it be Hillsborough or a new ground that's all that counts for me. At least that meets the main consideration Seriously though, is there a flat plot of land big enough in Oughtibridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 55 minutes ago, OasisOwl72 said: I'm not ITK but a very reliable contact told me DC is seriously considering moving from Hillsborough. Apparently architects have been asked to look at feasibility at sights at Oughtibridge and Westfield. I'm no financial expert either but I was told the cost can be covered in 25/50 year loan that would more than pay for itself over time especially if we got in Prem. SAG are a double edged sword to DC. A massive annoyance on one hand but part of justification in moving if it came to that. Ultimately I, like I'm sure we all do, want us to play at a modern, atmospheric ground that is a pleasure to visit and can utilise our support not suppress it. Sadly capacity wise for big games Hillsborough/SAG/SYP do the latter at the moment. Which ever meets all the positive criteria whether it be Hillsborough or a new ground that's all that counts for me. Bullshitwanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 58 minutes ago, OasisOwl72 said: I'm not ITK but a very reliable contact told me DC is seriously considering moving from Hillsborough. Apparently architects have been asked to look at feasibility at sights at Oughtibridge and Westfield. I'm no financial expert either but I was told the cost can be covered in 25/50 year loan that would more than pay for itself over time especially if we got in Prem. SAG are a double edged sword to DC. A massive annoyance on one hand but part of justification in moving if it came to that. Ultimately I, like I'm sure we all do, want us to play at a modern, atmospheric ground that is a pleasure to visit and can utilise our support not suppress it. Sadly capacity wise for big games Hillsborough/SAG/SYP do the latter at the moment. Which ever meets all the positive criteria whether it be Hillsborough or a new ground that's all that counts for me. Oughtibridge? Everythings on a hill, that makes no sense whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Mountain Owl said: Oughtibridge? Everythings on a hill, that makes no sense whatsoever. And floods from time to time. The better option is surely to develop the ground stand by stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Big Ron's Sovereign said: I'm done if we move *Prays to Chansiri for new stadium* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike84 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 15 hours ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Only way in that case would be buy Hillsborough park from the council they flog anything these days that's assuming the council still own it and not already flogged it to hedge fund Inc. Sell off the stadium when it's all finished up and running still in Hillsborough (kids don't play in parks anymore there are no X Boxes there) Minimum of fuss the cost of that ? I will hand you now over to Our club financial expert "Steveger" The problem with buying hillsborough park from the council is they don't actually own it. There is no chance that the park will ever be used for a new stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 15 hours ago, mark1948 said: If we move it should be a development with two stadia and a training ground. It should also have shops, restaurants, bowling alley, indoor stadium for basketball, tennis badminton and maybe a bowls arena. That way it becomes a destination almost every day of the week. The second smaller stadium is for the under 23s, SWFC ladies and maybe to entice Sheffield club back into Sheffield from Dronfield. If you're going to do it do it right and maximise the utility so that the revenue stream is constant and not an idle investment. Make sure that transport infrastructure is catered for. Trams Train Bussees Cars Helicopters etc. Meanwhile we cant afford a center half! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1948 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 1 hour ago, chizumgeorge said: Meanwhile we cant afford a center half! I don't think its a question of not being able to afford a centre half, it's finding better than we have who actually want to play in the Championship and for Sheffield Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OasisOwl72 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 12 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: Bullshitwanker Really? You nice and safe behind that keyboard? As for Oughtibridge I'm only passing on what I've been told. Take it or leave it, makes no difference to me but apparently there is land there for development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 18 hours ago, trev said: A move is the right thing to do eventually. Or a major major rebuild. Basically think Spurs but smaller. Major rebuild every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Another consideration is the surrounding area and Hillsborough in general where a lot of businesses rely on the boost in income every other weekend, for me the idea of buying Hillsborough park building a state of the art facility and once done turn the existing ground into a outdoor area for the community win win for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueOwl Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Hillsborough is our coliseum. The horse may have bolted on this one but imo any football stadium over 100 years old needs some kind of public listing conservation order to stop new owners from destroying essentially (Victorian) historical buildings without some serious justification. That would make renovation more difficult unfortunately but it's either that or have historic landmarks part of our local and national culture be demolished just because the alternative is cheaper. The longer you leave it, the cheaper the alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 3 hours ago, mike84 said: The problem with buying hillsborough park from the council is they don't actually own it. There is no chance that the park will ever be used for a new stadium. Yes apparently so Mike ... Nevthelodgemoorowl replied to my post that it was donated to the public. Cant think of anywhere else in Hillsborough that you could plonk a state of art ground .. wouldn't imagine we could even do a Real Madrid and dig down to get 45,000 extra seats unless diving equipment is issued under seats that's why I cannot understand the posts of redevelopment it's not like Tottenham they don't have the tight restrictions Hillsborough has River / Main Road etc They also didn't have to buy up property either they owned most of it anyway apart from the engineers business that kicked off... can't see a way round it no matter what we do with Leppings lane SAG/ SYP will still stick thorns in the club's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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