Greenhgate Owl Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 having read the Sheffield star today,there's a 2 pager about the upcoming derbies . got me thinking will Carlos get the players motivated for the derbies? Carlos is a better manager than wilder but wilder understands what a win means more than Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Don't like admitting it but Wilder is a very good manager. He mangers in a different way but as he's a Utd fan I think he will have the Blunts fired up more than our players, doesn't mean they have the quality to beat us though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Greenhgate Owl said: having read the Sheffield star today,there's a 2 pager about the upcoming derbies . got me thinking will Carlos get the players motivated for the derbies? Carlos is a better manager than wilder but wilder understands what a win means more than Carlos Don't they have derbys in Portugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Greenhgate Owl said: having read the Sheffield star today,there's a 2 pager about the upcoming derbies . got me thinking will Carlos get the players motivated for the derbies? Carlos is a better manager than wilder but wilder understands what a win means more than Carlos I'm sure Lee Bullen will make the team aware of what it means to the fans. Carlos can then concentrate on lobbing all the meat on the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 The op has a fair point. Cc didn't get us up for derbies against Rotherham or Barnsley, but we got lucky. Let's not forget the play off and last years final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Spookone said: Don't like admitting it but Wilder is a very good manager. He mangers in a different way but as he's a Utd fan I think he will have the Blunts fired up more than our players, doesn't mean they have the quality to beat us though. At League Two and League One with decent budgets, yes I agree. Let us see how he gets on in the Championship with one of the lowest budgets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Just now, ViolaOwls said: The op has a fair point. Cc didn't get us up for derbies against Rotherham or Barnsley, but we got lucky. Let's not forget the play off and last years final Leeds was the worst ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 I think it is the games where the opposition is an underdog and well up for it that we struggle with the most. I think those games will be pretty tight unless we get a bit more intensity to our own game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) If any of our footballers can't motivate them selves for a steel city derby then they don't deserve to represent this club Edited June 16, 2017 by s6 owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, ViolaOwls said: The op has a fair point. Cc didn't get us up for derbies against Rotherham or Barnsley, but we got lucky. Let's not forget the play off and last years final 6 points from Rotherham and 4 points from Barnsley last season. Has a superb record vs Huddersfield. Leeds was awful this season, and Hull don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Don't think the OP deserves negging. It's a legitimate concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: 6 points from Rotherham and 4 points from Barnsley last season. Has a superb record vs Huddersfield. Leeds was awful this season, and Hull don't count. Superb record against Huddersfield but crumbled when it mattered most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: Don't think the OP deserves negging. It's a legitimate concern. Yep why is anyone negging him? What has he said that would annoy anyone? Edited June 16, 2017 by Spookone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) There's a big difference between "derbies" with the Dingles (vague rivalry) and Toytown (totally non-existent rivalry) and the Steel City Derby, especially when there hasn't been one in so long. Carlos, Bullen and leaders in the squad like Hutch will make sure we're well up for it. I'll concede our performances against Leeds this season were poor - but we beat them with ease at Hillsborough the season before. Edited June 16, 2017 by Groundhopping Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, robowl4life said: Superb record against Huddersfield but crumbled when it mattered most. Lost on the lottery of a penalty shoot-out. It happens, ask Reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlicer Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Wilder is being linked with Sunderland if their takeover goes ahead. Source. Just been on SSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: Don't think the OP deserves negging. It's a legitimate concern. Based on what though? Our record against the local sides has been good under Carlos. Rotherham = 9 from 12 Barnsley = 4 from 6 Leeds = 4 from 12 Huddersfield = 10 from 12 Leeds is disappointing, though Carlos' first season saw 4 points from 6 against Leeds. Play-off games are a lottery and won't affect league games against United, so I'm not worried about those. Not including Hull or Boro because they aren't derbies IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marconi Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, OughtibridgeOwl said: Wilder is being linked with Sunderland if their takeover goes ahead. Source. Just been on SSN We'll see how much his beloved Blades mean to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Spookone said: Don't like admitting it but Wilder is a very good manager. ............................... Yes good track record. I don't see any reason why he can't transfer his skills to the higher level other than wishful thinking and blue tinted specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 58 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: At League Two and League One with decent budgets, yes I agree. Let us see how he gets on in the Championship with one of the lowest budgets. Tommy Docherty, circa 1976: "If you buy third division players, you end up with a third division team". He was talking about the Blunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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