General_Grievous Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 As much as we're all frustrated about aspects of last season, and know where we think we should strengthen, if we have better luck with injuries (to key players) we'll have a much better chance full stop. We expect it from Hutch but to lose Lee, Hoops, FF, Lees, Wallace (in the last match). Even BB for a while... Better luck would be most welcome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Abdi the best midfilder in our squad doesn't even get a mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 It is no coincidence that our best spell of results came when we only had two CMs fit. Injuries did Carlos a big favour. What do do you think would have happened if instead of having no choice but to pick... Reach - Jones/Lee - Bannan - Wallace Hooper Fletch/Rhodes FF and Hutch had been fit. He would have played the semi team, which had been awful. Wouldn't have made the top six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 36 minutes ago, General_Grievous said: As much as we're all frustrated about aspects of last season, and know where we think we should strengthen, if we have better luck with injuries (to key players) we'll have a much better chance full stop. We expect it from Hutch but to lose Lee, Hoops, FF, Lees, Wallace (in the last match). Even BB for a while... Better luck would be most welcome!!! Doesn't wash with me. He has spent a fortune to be able to cope with injuries Bar 2 or 3 of his MANY signings they have all been a complete waste of money It all comes down to terrible recruitment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Just now, torres said: Doesn't wash with me. He has spent a fortune to be able to cope with injuries Bar 2 or 3 of his MANY signings they have all been a complete waste of money It all comes down to terrible recruitment Not really bad recruitment but bad tactics. The team that lost to Huddersfield was the same team minus Hooper who lost to Hull last season. To many favourites and not enough balls to drop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, torres said: Bar 2 or 3 of his MANY signings they have all been a complete waste of money It all comes down to terrible recruitment Why does it? Rhodes, Reach, Pudil, Fletcher and Jones played a massive role in our surge from 7th to 4th late season. It all comes down to utterly terrible management. Changing a winning side, a winning set-up and a winning team-spirit.....for that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Blue and white said: Not really bad recruitment but bad tactics. The team that lost to Huddersfield was the same team minus Hooper who lost to Hull last season. To many favourites and not enough balls to drop them. Exactly!!! Same team as last year! We have spent £25m!!! And it was the same team as last year!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, torres said: Exactly!!! Same team as last year! We have spent £25m!!! And it was the same team as last year!!! I feel we could have had the worlds best midfield and Carlos would still go with Hutch, Bannan and Lee in midfield. Sadly I have no confidence he will address this and this will be our downfall yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Blue and white said: I feel we could have had the worlds best midfield and Carlos would still go with Hutch, Bannan and Lee in midfield. Sadly I have no confidence he will address this and this will be our downfall yet again. Yet it's fantastic news he's signed in n for another season? Don't get it all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Grievous Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 56 minutes ago, Blue and white said: Abdi the best midfilder in our squad doesn't even get a mention. Sorry! They were just the ones who came to mind this morning. There are probably others such as Matias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Couple of things... How much is down to the way the management team was disbanded early on. There was a whole team of people, including Glen Roeder & Adam Pearson, who were initially responsible for the direction the club was going in, including signing players at the time CC joined. That team gradually disbanded or left, but some great signings were made during that time - Wallace, Forestieri, Bannan, Pudil on loan, Hooper on loan, Matias, Lopez & Joao... quite a few who went on to become 1st choice team players. After they left, it became rather more scattergun. In that 1st season with CC, you have to remember that we still relied on loan players a lot. And quite a few positions didn't have quality back up. In the 2nd season, the better loan players were signed up, and we got much better quality back up players. All in all, we started from nowhere when Chansiri came in, he built on the foundation of the 1st season to make us so much more secure in the 2nd. And now in the 3rd, we don't have to build a squad from scratch anymore, it's about fine-tuning and adding greater quality in key positions... apart from defence which wasn't built up like it should've been last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curren Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Injuries are no excuse for going away to Huddersfield and treating them like Real Madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Blue and white said: Abdi the best midfilder in our squad doesn't even get a mention. How can you possibly come out with a statement like that? Best midfielder in our squad - Come on Edited May 30, 2017 by ramone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Look at his history and pedigree last season he played a full season in the premier league contributing loads while there. If used properly and he is fit it's a no brainier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 8 hours ago, General_Grievous said: As much as we're all frustrated about aspects of last season, and know where we think we should strengthen, if we have better luck with injuries (to key players) we'll have a much better chance full stop. We expect it from Hutch but to lose Lee, Hoops, FF, Lees, Wallace (in the last match). Even BB for a while... Better luck would be most welcome!!! Can't really argue with that. Injuries to key players at the wrong time can dictate your season - Brighton in the play-off semi's last year being a perfect example of that. I guess you could argue we've spent a lot of money and have a big squad, so injuries should have minimal impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Can't really argue with that. Injuries to key players at the wrong time can dictate your season - Brighton in the play-off semi's last year being a perfect example of that. I guess you could argue we've spent a lot of money and have a big squad, so injuries should have minimal impact? Not minimal impact. But we didn't have to scramble for loan players to get by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Pulcinella said: Not minimal impact. But we didn't have to scramble for loan players to get by. Because we couldn't (loan system prevents this now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulcinella Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 40 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Because we couldn't (loan system prevents this now). True. Which makes me realise that we HAD to get in players as cover - and not all would have been expected to be first choices (because we don't have infinite money with the FairPlay rules). All of which means we've had two squad building years and now we need to concentrate on quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 We've got a more than capable squad for automatics, hopefully with some quality additions and as said some luck in terms of injuries we'll be right up there next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 13 hours ago, Pulcinella said: All in all, we started from nowhere when Chansiri came in, he built on the foundation of the 1st season to make us so much more secure in the 2nd. And now in the 3rd, we don't have to build a squad from scratch anymore, it's about fine-tuning and adding greater quality in key positions... apart from defence which wasn't built up like it should've been last summer. how many seasons did Huddersfields manager have to build his promotion squad? this is rubbish that it takes years to build a squad, where were Fulham last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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