Road Runner Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Below is a table an Ipswich fan did regarding youth players used this season, pretty poor on us in reflection. Will this become a problem in the near future if young players look at stuff like this? Why come here if you won't get a chance? Grim reading for young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just means ours aren't good enough for top end championship football. Forest is the clue to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone in my head Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Is it a poor reflection on Brighton too? Or is it an acknowledgement that to get out of this league you need experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukestheman82 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 The bloke needs a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 37 minutes ago, tuttuttut said: Below is a table an Ipswich fan did regarding youth players used this season, pretty poor on us in reflection. Will this become a problem in the near future if young players look at stuff like this? Why come here if you won't get a chance? Grim reading for young players. Once you get towards 20, you should be looking at first team rivals and be looking to knock them off their peg. You'll never make it otherwise...Whatever club you're signed to...The proof is in how you play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 28 minutes ago, tuttuttut said: Below is a table an Ipswich fan did regarding youth players used this season, pretty poor on us in reflection. Will this become a problem in the near future if young players look at stuff like this? Why come here if you won't get a chance? Grim reading for young players. I appreciate the point you're making, but it's not as bleak as you imply. Take out the loans, were on zero, and it's not as bad. Still bad, but we're not bottom and close to Preston, fifth in the list. Would our young players be impressed if we brought in some Chelsea / Man City youngsters? I doubt it. I think they'll prefer to be targeting replacing our own players. Way out out in front in the list, Forest. Goal difference away from relegation. A club in crisis. Barnsley and Ipswich too, overly rely on youth because they've little alternative. Our academy is years behind others. We're playing catch up. Leeds, for one, have had a quality academy bringing through player for years. It's a conveyor belt. We've just turn ours on. You need to review this table in five years. Hopefully, it'll look a lot more favourable. Will this become a problem in the near future? Not in my opinion. I think the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Ipswich are shyte Ipswich fan produces some stats that makes them look more capable Who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Doesn't matter. Meaningless statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 7 hours ago, someone in my head said: Is it a poor reflection on Brighton too? Or is it an acknowledgement that to get out of this league you need experience? You're right. Totally meaningless graph obviously showing teams with smallest squads giving more first team minutes to youngsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 wonder what Chelsea's stats are ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 If you watched the England U 20's yesterday you'll have seen why non of our youngsters are ready to step up just yet...hardly any of them had much experience during the season but they looked head and shoulders above our kids...be patient it's not long ago that we didn't even have a youth set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 back in 2000 we gave plenty of youngsters a run in the team , stringer ,Haslam,crane ,Morrison,quinn,bromby ,geary,hamshaw spring to mind ....we nearly got relegated ,I can only guess but if we gave the same game time to 8 players from the dev squad next season we'd be marooned somewhere in the bottom half ..........young players have to be good enough to replace the established older players and I don't see anyone from the dev squad who warrants a place just yet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etchesketch Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 hours ago, torryowl said: back in 2000 we gave plenty of youngsters a run in the team , stringer ,Haslam,crane ,Morrison,quinn,bromby ,geary,hamshaw spring to mind ....we nearly got relegated ,I can only guess but if we gave the same game time to 8 players from the dev squad next season we'd be marooned somewhere in the bottom half ..........young players have to be good enough to replace the established older players and I don't see anyone from the dev squad who warrants a place just yet . Yes the times when a number of young players are blooded at once tend to be out of necessity rather than choice. In 2000 we lost players after relegation(Alexandersson, had others injured(Scott,Donnelly,O'Donnell,Jonk,Hinchcliffe) and weren't signing players after overspending. Those youngsters had to be picked when some weren't ready but we had no choice really an struggled. Leyton Orient this year have played loads of teenagers out of necessity and are now out of the League. I think you may only find that one or two of the current crop will ever play for the first team for Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Absolutely anything to have a go at the club ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Watch our youngsters and you will soon realise what a silly suggestion it is. Not a knock on them , they just aren't up to the task Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 41 minutes ago, Etchesketch said: Yes the times when a number of young players are blooded at once tend to be out of necessity rather than choice. In 2000 we lost players after relegation(Alexandersson, had others injured(Scott,Donnelly,O'Donnell,Jonk,Hinchcliffe) and weren't signing players after overspending. Those youngsters had to be picked when some weren't ready but we had no choice really an struggled. Leyton Orient this year have played loads of teenagers out of necessity and are now out of the League. I think you may only find that one or two of the current crop will ever play for the first team for Wednesday. Thats sad, but probably true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 So with just a couple of exceptions, the teams that make up the bottom half of this table, actually made up the top half of the league table. Yeah we should be ashamed of ourselves, imagine wanting to win and compete at the top of the league, shocking Wednesday. Our young players will get a chance if a time comes that they are good enough to play for a top 6 championship side, and quite understandably, none of them are close to that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etchesketch Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: Thats sad, but probably true 2 minutes ago, james o connor said: Watch our youngsters and you will soon realise what a silly suggestion it is. Not a knock on them , they just aren't up to the task The FA Youth Cup tie against Chelsea that was live on Chelsea TV showed our U18s as boys against men. To be fair the Chelsea team gave hammerings to a lot of teams and mst of there players will never play in the Chelsea 1st team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 On 26. 05. 2017. at 18:49, Birley Owl 1867 said: Just means ours aren't good enough for top end championship football. Forest is the clue to that If it was not for their youth players, Forest would got relegated this season. Smith, Worrall, Cash and Brereton all came in, improved them and help them survive. Don't forget that they sold Burke for 13 m to RB Leipzig as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Ok honest question for those who have seen more of our under 23s than the few games I have..... who if any looks likely to make the grade and championship level ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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