BFNB Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 We have several players out on loan due to come back Melo Keen Joao For me I would let all 3 go There is also the available to offers list McGugan and then finally the squad trim (thank you but its time to move on) Palmer Pudil or Fox Nuhiu Loovens Jones Abdi ? Make space for a few of those U23 winners to come through or they will be going as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 39 minutes ago, BFNB said: We have several players out on loan due to come back Melo Keen Joao For me I would let all 3 go There is also the available to offers list McGugan and then finally the squad trim (thank you but its time to move on) Palmer Pudil or Fox Nuhiu Loovens Jones Abdi ? Make space for a few of those U23 winners to come through or they will be going as well I can't see any of the development lads breaking through any time soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Loovens is under contract and we only have 2 recognised centre backs at the club I definitely think we need a new CB or 2 and would like to see Loovens be what Sasso was this season, reliable cover, but we can't and shouldn't move him on, 1 more season for me. Agree with the full backs although Hunt is good enough and I'm guessing Palmer will still be considered adequate cover, Fox was a bit of an odd signing though. Jones still has a role to play imo but despite his ability, I'd welcome offers for Abdi, it just hasn't happened for him and I can't see that changing. Also we've just missed out in the play offs again, chucking a bunch of kids into the squad is not going to bridge the gap to the top 2, get the pick of the bunch ( Hirst, Preston etc ) out on loan if they're ready, then we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 hours ago, BFNB said: We have several players out on loan due to come back Melo Keen Joao For me I would let all 3 go There is also the available to offers list McGugan and then finally the squad trim (thank you but its time to move on) Palmer Pudil or Fox Nuhiu Loovens Jones Abdi ? Make space for a few of those U23 winners to come through or they will be going as well Good luck trying to get someone to buy McGugan . He hasnt kicked a ball for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Abdi will still come good for us. Play him in his correct position and he will be like a new signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Good luck trying to get someone to buy McGugan . He hasnt kicked a ball for a year. and will be on very big wages i would imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Good luck trying to get someone to buy McGugan . He hasnt kicked a ball for a year. I recon he already has had offers but just decided against a massive pay decrease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw pete Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, gurujuan said: I can't see any of the development lads breaking through any time soon Whys that then.. ? how many times did you watch them last season ? And remind where they finished was season.. Edited May 26, 2017 by outlaw pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw pete Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 4 hours ago, BFNB said: We have several players out on loan due to come back Melo Keen Joao For me I would let all 3 go There is also the available to offers list McGugan and then finally the squad trim (thank you but its time to move on) Palmer Pudil or Fox Nuhiu Loovens Jones Abdi ? Make space for a few of those U23 winners to come through or they will be going as well Good post, I would like to see some of the young lads given a chance. I just cant see what Abdi ,Jones , Fox and Nuhiu have to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw pete Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 4 hours ago, Lee A said: Loovens is under contract and we only have 2 recognised centre backs at the club I definitely think we need a new CB or 2 and would like to see Loovens be what Sasso was this season, reliable cover, but we can't and shouldn't move him on, 1 more season for me. Agree with the full backs although Hunt is good enough and I'm guessing Palmer will still be considered adequate cover, Fox was a bit of an odd signing though. Jones still has a role to play imo but despite his ability, I'd welcome offers for Abdi, it just hasn't happened for him and I can't see that changing. Also we've just missed out in the play offs again, chucking a bunch of kids into the squad is not going to bridge the gap to the top 2, get the pick of the bunch ( Hirst, Preston etc ) out on loan if they're ready, then we'll see. Who was it who said you never win anything with kids ? Good Sir Alex took no notice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gparrish Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) I'd keep Keen around as third choice, with the intention being one of Dawson or Wildsmith could go out on loan and get some game time. Ideally one for the first half of the season and one for the second half. Edited May 26, 2017 by Gparrish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Lucas Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 23 minutes ago, outlaw pete said: Whys that then.. ? how many times did you watch them last season ? And remind where they finished was season.. Huh ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 4 hours ago, BFNB said: We have several players out on loan due to come back Melo Keen Joao For me I would let all 3 go There is also the available to offers list McGugan and then finally the squad trim (thank you but its time to move on) Palmer Pudil or Fox Nuhiu Loovens Jones Abdi ? Make space for a few of those U23 winners to come through or they will be going as well I'd let Melo leave without doubt. Would keep Keen so we can loan out Wildsmith. Joao is a tough one - show glimpses of quality and has different attributes to the other strikers in the squad - mainly pace. Been trying to ship McGugan out for ages, so he'll leave if he wants to. Happy with our existing full-backs, so would keep Pudil, Fox, and Palmer from your list. Unless there is a substantially better LB out there who fits into budget without taking money away from the key positions that need sorting. Nuhiu's to leave - been a very bit part player since Rhodes and Winnall signed and with the release list yesterday suggesting we are being less sentimental (Semedo). Loovens to drop to 3rd choice CB with a new guy replacing him. Would like to see a fit and settled Abdi, so he would get another chance for me. Jones offers good defensive midfield cover and has been there and done it, I'd keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, outlaw pete said: Whys that then.. ? how many times did you watch them last season ? And remind where they finished was season.. The step up from the youth set up/development squad to expectations to get promoted to the Premier League is massive. I'd rather our young lads went out on loan to develop, gain experience, and make their mistakes (because they will, that's what young players do and that's how the learn and develop) elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 49 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: and will be on very big wages i would imagine More than likely . Just cant see us finding a buyer for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 43 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: I recon he already has had offers but just decided against a massive pay decrease. You may well be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw pete Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: The step up from the youth set up/development squad to expectations to get promoted to the Premier League is massive. I'd rather our young lads went out on loan to develop, gain experience, and make their mistakes (because they will, that's what young players do and that's how the learn and develop) elsewhere. Mark Smith,the Shirtcliffe brothers, Mel Sterland, David Hirst all made the step to the first team with ease. IMO we have some very good lads playing for the development team, I belive that they deserve a chance. Young lads often give a team an extra energy that the likes of Abdi,Fox, Jones and Big Dave dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, BFNB said: We have several players out on loan due to come back Melo Get rid. Crock and we have enough slow cms Keen 2nd choice next season , Allowing Wildsmith much needed game time. Joao Get rid, serves no purpose For me I would let all 3 go There is also the available to offers list McGugan who realistically would take him? and then finally the squad trim (thank you but its time to move on) Palmer Keep , adequate back up. Pudil or Fox Keep one as back up neither good enough to be first choice Nuhiu Like him but other than the odd cameo doesnt really serve a purpose. If I was him id want to move. Loovens Decent but ageing and injury prone. back up Jones okay as a squad player, wouldn't be upset if he left though. Abdi ? Id love to say wait and see with him but I just cant see it ever working out. Make space for a few of those U23 winners to come through or they will be going as well None of the under 23s are anywhere near ready. Penny physically looks the closest but hes a mile of Pudil who is a mile of what id ideally like in there Edited May 26, 2017 by james o connor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: More than likely . Just cant see us finding a buyer for him. Even if you gave him a free not many if anyone would match his wages, I reckon he'll wait out his contract. If that's the case it shows zero ambition. Edited May 26, 2017 by Corneliusreeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Times have changed though pal. Hirsty's goals weren't worth £200m. Managers didn't get the boot for having a bad month of results. Instant success wasn't demanded from all quarters. Abdi and Jones bring experience and proven Championship quality. Ok it isn't always going to work out, but there is a better chance of success over an unproven teenager. Fox is only 22 himself, so wouldn't write him off! As for Nuhiu, I agree - and I'd rather have had young Hirst on the bench. However, Nuhiu was effective in defending a lead because of his style and build - not sure bringing Hirst on to play that role would have worked. I hope the young lads get a chance - being loaned out lower down the football ladder to learn their trade, develop their skills, and gain that valuable experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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