sage owl Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, MallorcaOwl said: THis is false information, he did not try to engineer a bung. read the story and get the facts right before you revert to libeling someone Technicalities / semantics ?. If he's done nothing wrong he ought to be sueing someone. I stand by the last sentence of my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 hour ago, pgmetcalf said: You've done well, Id've thought your post would be -500 by now I'm still stood in the corner with the dunce cap on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMaloney92 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 20 hours ago, Dronfield Blue said: He's got a bit of a dodgy past. Can't knock his England record... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesdayok Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 20 hours ago, Frazzlebeak said: When we've been turned over by the pigs twice next year because Carlos doesn't get it you'll be calling for his head Phuck off, I can't spell fu*k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetherave Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 23 hours ago, Frazzlebeak said: There, I said it. Head down for the in coming Frazzle off pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Jesus H...Frazzles streaky bacon crisps...Beak owls...you don't need the Enigma machine to work it out...shakes head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 10 hours ago, pgmetcalf said: You've done well, Id've thought your post would be -500 by now Owlstalk is slacking . Ive seen people hammered on here for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 11 hours ago, MallorcaOwl said: THis is false information, he did not try to engineer a bung. read the story and get the facts right before you revert to libeling someone On your advice I have been and read the story again . The allegations against him were that he offered to give advice on getting round legal payments and that he ATTEMPTED TO ARRANGE A FEE OF 400K TO ACT AS AN ADVISOR . As per BBC sports website. No problem apologies accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 15 hours ago, sage owl said: On your advice I have been and read the story again . The allegations against him were that he offered to give advice on getting round legal payments and that he ATTEMPTED TO ARRANGE A FEE OF 400K TO ACT AS AN ADVISOR . As per BBC sports website. No problem apologies accepted. It's never a clever thing to use capital letters, I don't need to apologise as Sam did nothing wrong here is a copy of what he said Following morning to meet the FA. At no point going into that meeting did he fear for his job, and on reflection there are plenty of observers who think the FA acted too soon, that had they waited and seen that the rest of the 'revelations' did not concern their manager, they might have been able to ride out the storm. 'It's worth remembering that the police didn't discover anything worthy of investigation,' says Allardyce. 'And before a parliamentary select committee Robert Sullivan from the FA said I hadn't been in breach of any FA rules. Or told anybody how to breach FA guidelines on third-party ownership. 'In fact, he said I was actually doing nothing more than stating the FA's position. When I went to Wembley I didn't think I was about to lose my job. I just thought it was going to be a discussion about how we navigate through it. 'But the process was not what I expected. People have told me that if it was a similar-sized business there would have been a lengthier HR process. I'm not criticising the FA because they felt they needed to make a decision. I didn't want to go but in the end there was a mutual agreement.' Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4523656/Sam-Allardyce-opens-agony-losing-England-job.html#ixzz4i5aYc4B3 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 4 hours ago, MallorcaOwl said: It's never a clever thing to use capital letters, I don't need to apologise as Sam did nothing wrong here is a copy of what he said Following morning to meet the FA. At no point going into that meeting did he fear for his job, and on reflection there are plenty of observers who think the FA acted too soon, that had they waited and seen that the rest of the 'revelations' did not concern their manager, they might have been able to ride out the storm. 'It's worth remembering that the police didn't discover anything worthy of investigation,' says Allardyce. 'And before a parliamentary select committee Robert Sullivan from the FA said I hadn't been in breach of any FA rules. Or told anybody how to breach FA guidelines on third-party ownership. 'In fact, he said I was actually doing nothing more than stating the FA's position. When I went to Wembley I didn't think I was about to lose my job. I just thought it was going to be a discussion about how we navigate through it. 'But the process was not what I expected. People have told me that if it was a similar-sized business there would have been a lengthier HR process. I'm not criticising the FA because they felt they needed to make a decision. I didn't want to go but in the end there was a mutual agreement.' Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4523656/Sam-Allardyce-opens-agony-losing-England-job.html#ixzz4i5aYc4B3 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook You believe Sam and the mail I'll stick to the allegations made in the BBC article written at the time. like I said earlier if these were unfounded surely an innocent man would sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MallorcaOwl Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, sage owl said: You believe Sam and the mail I'll stick to the allegations made in the BBC article written at the time. like I said earlier if these were unfounded surely an innocent man would sue. He accepted a pay off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 hours ago, MallorcaOwl said: He accepted a pay off in a nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soul Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 On 23/05/2017 at 19:25, Frazzlebeak said: There, I said it. Head down for the in coming clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 11 hours ago, Mr Soul said: clueless So is Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soul Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Frazzlebeak said: So is Carlos If CC is clueless, how did he (with no previous experience of English football) manage to get us in the playoffs in his first 2 seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Frazzlebeak said: So is Carlos What's your opinion on Wildebeest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mr Soul said: If CC is clueless, how did he (with no previous experience of English football) manage to get us in the playoffs in his first 2 seasons? Plenty of managers could have done the same with the money spent. To get them so far and blow it twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, Big Ron's Sovereign said: What's your opinion on Wildebeest? A bit chewy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soul Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just now, Frazzlebeak said: Plenty of managers could have done the same with the money spent. To get them so far and blow it twice Thankfully I dont live in a world of woulda, coulda, shoulda...the reality is he is the most successful Wednesday manager in years. Yes he was given money to spend that others before him didnt get, undeniably, but working on the assumption that another manager would have done better with the money is just stupidity. The money took us to a level of success that we had not achieved in years...it took us to that point! Now is the time to invest more cause. Yes there were flaws in the squad last season but we have had (proportionately) huge success in a short period of time. It is a work in progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 This debate is pointless now. Carlos is back in charge, let's get behind him and the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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