pazowl55 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Reach, Fox, Abdi , Pudil, Winnall, Sasso Jones, Fletcher, Kean, Buckley McManaman and Rhodes. All new signings and not one of them you could say were guaranteed a starting place. We must be talking about 10 million in wages here at least, letalone transfer fees. How can we sign so many players we hoped would improve the squad and not have them do so. This has to change next season our squad is now padded out enough. I would like us to identify a couple of player say Ince or Jota and say Hanley or Flint. Or whoever Carlos feels but they have to be better than what we have then go all out to get them and if they fall through then stick with what we got. What's the point in signing players for the sake of it if they are not going to improve the squad. WE NEED QUALITY NOW. NOT QUANTITY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Scapegoat thread #332 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loppy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Pudil a new signing? Our left back for 2 seasons straight? Just the 4 internationals on that list. Let's just sign Messi, Neymar and Ronaldo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) The main point I was trying to make was we need to sign a Westwood, Lees, Bannan, Lee, someone who when they are fit play every week. As said there are international's there. So why are we not getting their talent out of them.? Edited May 20, 2017 by pazowl55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Abdi was basically injured all season ffs and Fletcher had our best goal per minute of anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: The main point I was trying to make was we need to sign a Westwood, Lees, Bannan, Lee, someone who when they are fit play every week. As said there are international's there. So why are we not getting their talent out of them.? I don't understand have they left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 We have enough of it - we just don't have a manager who can pull it into a cohesive balanced unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I think the one thing we can all agree on is that whoever we sign they need to be vastly superior to whoever currently plays in their position for us. We've had enough bench warmers and squad players this season, its time to start building a first 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loppy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Madmax said: No need fpr sarcasam. The ones we have are clearly not quite good enough & thats a quote from the experts. They're top half players but not top two. A few experts have said that. There's every need for sarcasm given the meltdowns on here. We have a squad that's secured our highest finish in 17 years. Some of those players more than are good enough for us. Fletcher pretty much got us in the playoffs. Rhodes is the football leagues top scorer over the last 5 years or whatever. Winall won barnsley's golden boot in half a season. Jones has been promoted out of this division before. Kean was signed to be 4th choice GK and we're blaming him! Let's get some realism. We had two bad games which yes the tactics need questioning. We've had other games which were questionable. We need a couple of quality additions, not a complete rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, agentwalker said: I think the one thing we can all agree on is that whoever we sign they need to be vastly superior to whoever currently plays in their position for us. We've had enough bench warmers and squad players this season, its time to start building a first 11. This is what I am getting at all the players we spent money on in the summer and in the big game Carlos went back to his tried and trusted. Time to sign some more tried and trusted is my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 That list proves only one thing to me. It's maybe time to make a change in the managerial department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) It's probably more important that we identify what's needed and make sure the recruitment is targeted. Sounds obvious, but the OP's list suggests that we get it wrong more often than not. This has to stop, there's no doubting the ability of most of those, but there are major doubts about whether they fit the way we want to play Edited May 20, 2017 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, gurujuan said: It's probably more important that we identify what's needed and make sure the recruitment is targeted. Sounds obvious, but the OP's list suggests that we get it wrong more often than not. This has to stop, there's no doubting the ability of most of those, but there are major doubts about whether they fit the way we want to play We have spent 20+ million including wages and not one of them is guaranteed a start that's what's getting me. doesn't matter about ability or anything. Edited May 20, 2017 by pazowl55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19owl08 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Omg yet another thread which could have been posted as a reply in one of the other 300 threads created about the same thing. But as I've replied I might as well give my opinion To me our recruitment over the summer was more to provide cover & have an all around better squad. None of them, except maybe Abdi, were ones I expected to get in the first 11. The team from last year was still to be our favoured line up as they got so close with the final but we needed a stronger bench to turn games. Unfortunately we ended up losing Lee & Hooper for half a season. Pudil went off the boil. Just as those 3 were coming back we then had problems with Hutch & Forestieri then Hooper again. And Abdi ended up crocked most of the season. They have improved the squad & the fact we required that many signings to have depth shows how far off we really were. And I expect that we will have a fairly quiet summer with the focus on quality just as you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, daveyboy66 said: Scapegoat thread #332 His opening paragraph mentions 12 players. You need to review your understanding of the term scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, zzmdu said: His opening paragraph mentions 12 players. You need to review your understanding of the term scapegoats. Gives scope for open season on any of them....it's zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzmdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just now, daveyboy66 said: Gives scope for open season on any of them....it's zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzmdu ScapeGoatHerding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Winnall is easily starting line up quality. With service he would score for fun. The midfielders we all rate are the ones who don't create enough chances and lose the midfield battle. Built a midfield of small men and with the style of play it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Quality over quantity is the way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 We need to be stronger and faster in most areas,with more height and physical presence, a carlton palmer type would be ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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