theowlsman Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 x categories to comment on. Changes you think would put us in a better position to challenge for promotion next season. Put actual names against your changes. The rest of us will vote on your intended changes (scored out of 10). We'll then work out your average score per category, and then add your average scores per category to give you a final total. The winner will need to get his / her CV ready for any pending opportunities that may later arise at S6. Category 1 - who should manage the team next season? Category 2 - what playing personnel would you move on / bring in, and what would your starting XI look like? (for both home and away games). Category 3 - what would be your chosen style of play for (a) home games (b) away games You'll need to bear in mind that any ridiculous suggestions will impede your ability to score highly e.g. it's highly unlikely that Aguero will be wanting to join us. Let's give it a week before we look at the results. Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Too hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Tankisco Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just now, shez owl said: Too hard Agreed. My head hurt reading the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) Category 1. Carlos Category 2. Same Goalkeeper, Same Backline apart from a new partner for Lees. Midfield Diamond with new defensive midfielder, Lee and Bannan the two in the centre with Forristier behind Hooper and Rhodes up front. Category 3. More expansive style at Home, a little more conservative Away. Edited May 20, 2017 by Great Big Galaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 Look upon this as a symposium of Owls Talk experts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Great Big Galaa said: Category 1. Carlos Category 2. Same Goalkeeper, Same Backline apart from a new partner for Lee's. Midfield Diamond with new defensive midfielder, Lee and Bannan the two in the centre with Forristier behind Hooper and Rhodes up front. Category 3. More expansive style at Home, a little more conservative Away. why do you want to keep Carlos then if you are completely changing the tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, shez owl said: Too hard I only posted it two minutes earlier. I conclude that you are the impulsive type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said: Category 1. Carlos Category 2. Same Goalkeeper, Same Backline apart from a new partner for Lees. Midfield Diamond with new defensive midfielder, Lee and Bannan the two in the centre with Forristier behind Hooper and Rhodes up front. Category 3. More expansive style at Home, a little more conservative Away. A little bit more conservative! We'll have 10 men on our own 18 yard line FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 I'm already thinking that this isn't going to go very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: why do you want to keep Carlos then if you are completely changing the tactics How am I completely changing the tactics. It's a slight variation on 4-4-2 and the tactics I'm proposing are a bit between the two styles we've seen over the last two seasons but then again there are two many clever pedantic posters on here to see that Edited May 20, 2017 by Great Big Galaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said: Category 1. Carlos Category 2. Same Goalkeeper, Same Backline apart from a new partner for Lees. Midfield Diamond with new defensive midfielder, Lee and Bannan the two in the centre with Forristier behind Hooper and Rhodes up front. Category 3. More expansive style at Home, a little more conservative Away. So, I'll vote as follows Category 1 - 8/10 Category 2 - 5/10 - no naming of names and unsure what the starting XI would be Category 3 - 6/10 - a bit vague although the general gist is there for all to see and interpret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfan Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 48 minutes ago, theowlsman said: 3 x categories to comment on. Changes you think would put us in a better position to challenge for promotion next season. Put actual names against your changes. The rest of us will vote on your intended changes (scored out of 10). We'll then work out your average score per category, and then add your average scores per category to give you a final total. The winner will need to get his / her CV ready for any pending opportunities that may later arise at S6. Category 1 - who should manage the team next season? Category 2 - what playing personnel would you move on / bring in, and what would your starting XI look like? (for both home and away games). Category 3 - what would be your chosen style of play for (a) home games (b) away games You'll need to bear in mind that any ridiculous suggestions will impede your ability to score highly e.g. it's highly unlikely that Aguero will be wanting to join us. Let's give it a week before we look at the results. Have fun! Shame you did'nt do this 2 days ago. Half the rubbish on here would'nt be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 58 minutes ago, theowlsman said: Have fun! Greetings Owlsman! Category 1 - who should manage the team next season? Carlos. But. I'm going to lay it on the line to him. Go back to what you do best, be the old Carlos or I'm afraid I'll do it myself. Yes. Me, Lord Snooty. I know I'm director of football. But lets be honest, this rarely works. If I was manager I wouldn't want some clown upstairs signing players I didn't want. And vice versa I wouldn't want to be signing players willy nilly and annoying the manager if I was DOF. So I'll do both jobs. Will also save a few bob. Category 2 - what playing personnel would you move on / bring in, and what would your starting XI look like? (for both home and away games). I wouldn't go mad in the transfer market. It creates problem making wholesale changes. We should know this after the grazy transfer seasons we've just had. This squad has a great spirit and togetherness. Besides, I don't want to faff about trying the permutations and wasting time. I know what needs to be done. Two players are coming in. Abraham or Wickham as my rangy , mobile striker. If I can't get one I'll get the other. And Jackson Irvine is coming into midfield. Not a big name granted, but someone who fits the bill. I won't be swayed by big name players whose careers are on the wain coming here for a last pay day. I want young hungry players on their way up. 1 in 4 goals ratio from midfield and likes a tackle. You'll do for me ,boy! IN : One of Wickham, Wood or Abraham Irvine OUT: I'll listen to offers for anyone on the fringes. OUT on Loan : Hirst and Wildsmith. You don't learn anything playing boys every week or sitting on a bench. Andy Rhodes can be sub keeper. Category 3 - what would be your chosen style of play for (a) home games (b) away games We'll play subtly different home and away. At home where teams will come and sit back I will flood the midfield with our technicians and completely dominate them from minute one. It will be a relentless domination. Teams coming to Hillsborough will be like a boxer on the ropes from the first minute. Away from home we'll be just as attack minded. I'll not be going to Burton to stifle them. Oh no , I'll be going there to put them to the sword. The pressure is on the home side to attack....they'll be open and I'll sodding well enjoy and expose that openess and go toe to toe with them! I'll not be bothered about dropping big name players to get results. If they don't fit the match day plan they'll have to get used to it or get out. Horses for courses. Some fit one way and not the other. They'll have to get that in their heads. They all have a job to do and will all play a part, but only in their best positions. Oh. And we'll be doing it in this as well. It's the deciding factor really. There's no point me putting together a devastating, attacking and thrusting team which is going to smash the league if the hoodoo hanging over us. The 'silverware kit' Oh. And one final thing. All my players will be wearing black leather boots with proper studs. There will be no metatarsal breaks on my watch Look forward to hearing from you Chairman. Edited May 20, 2017 by Lord Snooty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Greetings Owlsman! Category 1 - who should manage the team next season? Carlos. But. I'm going to lay in on the line to him. Go back to what you do best, or I'm afraid I'll do it myself. Yes. Me, Lord Snooty. I know I'm director of football. But lets be honest, this rarely works. If I was manager I wouldn't want some clown upstairs signing players I didn't want. And vice versa I wouldn't want to be signing players willy nilly and annoying the manager if I was DOF. So I'll do both jobs. Will also save a few bob. Category 2 - what playing personnel would you move on / bring in, and what would your starting XI look like? (for both home and away games). I wouldn't go mad in the transfer market. It creates problem making wholesale changes. We should know this after the grazy transfer seasons we've just had. This squad has a great spirit and togetherness. Besides, I don't want to faff about trying the permutations and wasting time. I know what needs to be done. Two players are coming in. Abraham or Wickham as my rangy , mobile striker. If I can't get one I'll get the other. And Jackson Irvine is coming into midfield. Not a big name granted, but someone who fits the bill. I won't be swayed by big name players whose careers are on the wain coming here for a last pay day. I want young hungry players on their way up. 1 in 4 goals ratio from midfield and likes a tackle. You'll do for me ,boy! IN : One of Wickham, Wood or Abraham Irvine OUT: I'll listen to offers for anyone on the fringes. OUT on Loan : Hirst and Wildsmith. You don't learn anything playing boys every week or sitting on a bench. Andy Rhodes can be sub keeper. Category 3 - what would be your chosen style of play for (a) home games (b) away games We'll play subtly different home and away. At home where teams will come and sit back I will flood the midfield with our technicians and completely dominate them from minute one. It will be a relentless domination. Teams coming to Hillsborough will be like a boxer on the ropes from the first minute. Away from home we'll be just as attack minded. I'll not be going to Burton to stifle them. Oh no , I'll be going there to put them to the sword. The pressure is on the home side to attack....they'll be open and I'll sodding well enjoy and expose that openess and go toe to toe with them! I'll not be bothered about dropping big name players to get results. If they don't fit the match day plan they'll have to get used to it or get out. Horses for courses. Some fit one way and not the other. They'll have to get that in their heads. They all have a job to do and will all play a part, but only in their best positions. Oh. And we'll be doing it in this as well. It's the deciding factor really. There's no point me putting together a devastating, attacking and thrusting team which is going to smash the league if the hoodoo hanging over us. The 'silverware kit' Oh. And one final thing. All my players will be wearing black leather boots with proper studs. There will be no metatarsal breaks on my watch Look forward to hearing from you Chairman. Thank you Snoots. I'm giving you 9/10 8/10 10/10 Mainly because you're the only one who's made a bloody effort so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SettleForADraw Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 55 minutes ago, theowlsman said: 3 x categories to comment on. Changes you think would put us in a better position to challenge for promotion next season. Put actual names against your changes. The rest of us will vote on your intended changes (scored out of 10). We'll then work out your average score per category, and then add your average scores per category to give you a final total. The winner will need to get his / her CV ready for any pending opportunities that may later arise at S6. Category 1 - who should manage the team next season? Carlos preferably but if he decides to go try get Jokanovic from Fulham or Wagner from Huddersfield (provided they don't go up) Category 2 - what playing personnel would you move on / bring in, and what would your starting XI look like? (for both home and away games). Rid of all the dead wood who aren't ever going to get near the bench (even if it means them going for nowt, so they're off the wage bill). Wouldn't want to move any of the first team on but if we had to get rid of one of our 'stars' it'd have to be forestieri. Realistically think we only need a left back, right back to push hunt, centre half and a winger. Westwood Hunt/new rb Lees/Hutchinson Maguire (hull) Fox/Pudil/lb winger abdi lee reach rhodes hooper Category 3 - what would be your chosen style of play for (a) home games (b) away games Attacking football at home, don't worry about teams scoring, we just need to score more than them. Away from home depends on the opposition, get at teams and put them under pressure from the start if needed, if not play similar to what we have this season. You'll need to bear in mind that any ridiculous suggestions will impede your ability to score highly e.g. it's highly unlikely that Aguero will be wanting to join us. Let's give it a week before we look at the results. Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Questions and half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Category 1 - who should manage the team next season? Simple, Carlos - Best manager we have had in 15 years or so, achieved best finish in that time and 6th, 4th is a great return. Proven that can win ugly (too much, some may say). Knows the players, players seem to love him, he seems to love the place. Category 2 - what playing personnel would you move on / bring in, and what would your starting XI look like? (for both home and away games). This is a hard one, but in an ideal would I think I'd want to play 343 formation as I believe this allows us to make most of our assets (forwards) and minimises our weaknesses (fullbacks). It also allows us to solve problem of how to fit Hutch in to a midfield 4. Out's: Sougou (not sure if still on books or in contract) no replacement required Urby (not sure if still on books or in contract) no replacement required Bus (not sure if still on books or in contract) no replacement required Dielna (not sure if still on books or in contract) no replacement required Lachman (not sure if still on books or in contract) no replacement required McGugan(not sure if still on books or in contract) no replacement required Melo (not sure if still on books or in contract) replacement required Keen (not sure if still on books or in contract) no replacement required In's: Irvine - If we get rid of Melo or any other of our CM's Jota - If we get rid of Fessi or Matias Manga - On free Playing Squad Keeper - Westwood, Wildsmith, Dawson CBs - Lees, Loovens, Hutch, Sasso, Manga, Pudil Left Wing Forward - Reach, Fox, Pudil, Penney Right Wing Forward - Hunt, Palmer, Lee CMs - Lee, Bannan, Irvine, Abdi, Jones, Semedo Left Forward - Fessi, Jaoa, Hirst Right Forward - Matias, Hooper, Wallace, Jota Striker - Rhodes, Fletch, Winnall, Nuhui Thats 31 players (2/3 of which still in development squad). Which may lead to 4/5 going on loan if all are fit at beginning of season. To be loaned: Fox, Penney, Hirst, Winall, Jaoa Category 3 - what would be your chosen style of play for (a) home games (b) away games Not named teams as each opposite requires bespoke players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: Greetings Owlsman! Category 1 - who should manage the team next season? Carlos. But. I'm going to lay it on the line to him. Go back to what you do best, be the old Carlos or I'm afraid I'll do it myself. Yes. Me, Lord Snooty. I know I'm director of football. But lets be honest, this rarely works. If I was manager I wouldn't want some clown upstairs signing players I didn't want. And vice versa I wouldn't want to be signing players willy nilly and annoying the manager if I was DOF. So I'll do both jobs. Will also save a few bob. Category 2 - what playing personnel would you move on / bring in, and what would your starting XI look like? (for both home and away games). I wouldn't go mad in the transfer market. It creates problem making wholesale changes. We should know this after the grazy transfer seasons we've just had. This squad has a great spirit and togetherness. Besides, I don't want to faff about trying the permutations and wasting time. I know what needs to be done. Two players are coming in. Abraham or Wickham as my rangy , mobile striker. If I can't get one I'll get the other. And Jackson Irvine is coming into midfield. Not a big name granted, but someone who fits the bill. I won't be swayed by big name players whose careers are on the wain coming here for a last pay day. I want young hungry players on their way up. 1 in 4 goals ratio from midfield and likes a tackle. You'll do for me ,boy! IN : One of Wickham, Wood or Abraham Irvine OUT: I'll listen to offers for anyone on the fringes. OUT on Loan : Hirst and Wildsmith. You don't learn anything playing boys every week or sitting on a bench. Andy Rhodes can be sub keeper. Category 3 - what would be your chosen style of play for (a) home games (b) away games We'll play subtly different home and away. At home where teams will come and sit back I will flood the midfield with our technicians and completely dominate them from minute one. It will be a relentless domination. Teams coming to Hillsborough will be like a boxer on the ropes from the first minute. Away from home we'll be just as attack minded. I'll not be going to Burton to stifle them. Oh no , I'll be going there to put them to the sword. The pressure is on the home side to attack....they'll be open and I'll sodding well enjoy and expose that openess and go toe to toe with them! I'll not be bothered about dropping big name players to get results. If they don't fit the match day plan they'll have to get used to it or get out. Horses for courses. Some fit one way and not the other. They'll have to get that in their heads. They all have a job to do and will all play a part, but only in their best positions. Oh. And we'll be doing it in this as well. It's the deciding factor really. There's no point me putting together a devastating, attacking and thrusting team which is going to smash the league if the hoodoo hanging over us. The 'silverware kit' Oh. And one final thing. All my players will be wearing black leather boots with proper studs. There will be no metatarsal breaks on my watch Look forward to hearing from you Chairman. Love the strip addition too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1. Megson. Want a manager with a promotion from the championship on his cv. 2. Release all those out of contract; Dielna, Lachman, Sougou, Bus, Sasso, Semedo. new contracts for Wildsmith and Dawson. move Hutch to centre back and sign another; Maguire or Hanley. The key player to sign is a top quality centre mid who makes the team tick like Ticker Taylor back in the day. Huddlestone or (if Huddersfield don't go up) Mooy. Jackson Irvine if we can't get anyone of the above quality. unfortunately I think we need another striker to play the lone striker role. Liked Lord Snootys choice of Tammy Abraham 3. 4-3-3 Westwood Hunt Hutchinson Lees Pudil Lee Mooy Abdi Macmanaman Abraham Forestieri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I got stuck on Question 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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