ashamanic Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Lots of people seem to be saying where they think we need to improve, but few saying where we are already good enough So what would be the starting 11 for next year, assuming we can bring in unknown players in specific positions? Even under a new manager, I know there won't usually be a "first choice" 11, but here goes Westwood New RB, New CB, Lees, Pudil (I'm not convinced w couldn't improve both wing backs, but the defence has been solid - largely as a result of the defensive tactics, but a complete overhaul would probably be detrimental) Reach, Abdi, Hutchinson, New winger - Don't like leaving Lee out, or Bannan really, but if Abdi can really get fit and settled I think he offers more creatively. The Hutchinson so the midfield doesn't get overrun Hooper, Rhodes - Rhodes is proven quality at this level, he didn't do it this year, but I have hopes he will prove it (assuming Boro don't have some sort of clause in the contract where they can get him back). Also, that would leave Forestieri out, but I think we missed Hooper more than we miss him when he isn't available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlandished Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Let's worry about the team kicking off in August before fretting about the January window in 2018 FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 FF will leave this summer, he wants prem football. We cant give it him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca99 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 lee needs to be in our team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Look no further than the six in six team surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, ViolaOwls said: FF will leave this summer, he wants prem football. We cant give it him He isn't good enough to play in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 42 minutes ago, ashamanic said: Lots of people seem to be saying where they think we need to improve, but few saying where we are already good enough So what would be the starting 11 for next year, assuming we can bring in unknown players in specific positions? Even under a new manager, I know there won't usually be a "first choice" 11, but here goes Westwood New RB, New CB, Lees, Pudil (I'm not convinced w couldn't improve both wing backs, but the defence has been solid - largely as a result of the defensive tactics, but a complete overhaul would probably be detrimental) Reach, Abdi, Hutchinson, New winger - Don't like leaving Lee out, or Bannan really, but if Abdi can really get fit and settled I think he offers more creatively. The Hutchinson so the midfield doesn't get overrun Hooper, Rhodes - Rhodes is proven quality at this level, he didn't do it this year, but I have hopes he will prove it (assuming Boro don't have some sort of clause in the contract where they can get him back). Also, that would leave Forestieri out, but I think we missed Hooper more than we miss him when he isn't available Its hard to forecast what positions are settled, because we don't know how we'll set up. It's more than likely, for example, that a new manager would play just the one striker Not many clubs in the top two divisions play 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrh Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Westwood New Lees Loovens/Hutchinson New Wallace/Mcmanaman Lee Bannan FF Rhodes Hooper Not a massively overhaul needed for me, some pacey additions with a but of flair is very necessary though and actually use them unlike macca/Buckley/mcgeady last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acquiescefc Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, ViolaOwls said: FF will leave this summer, he wants prem football. We cant give it him And the rest want what, league 1,2? Did you lose your circus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrh Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, jrh said: Westwood New Lees Loovens/Hutchinson New Wallace/Mcmanaman Lee Bannan FF Rhodes Hooper Not a massively overhaul needed for me, some pacey additions with a but of flair is very necessary though and actually use them unlike macca/Buckley/mcgeady last season. Forgot about abdi. But for me any two of Lee, bannan, abdi and hutch are more than good enough. People will go on about that not having much physical presence but we don't need that if we press and get at teams because for example Lee and bannan will cover twice as much ground as most cms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 We need to find another... Anthony Gardner Nigel Worthington Mooy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashamanic Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Its hard to forecast what positions are settled, because we don't know how we'll set up. It's more than likely, for example, that a new manager would play just the one striker Not many clubs in the top two divisions play 4-4-2 This is true, but I think pretty much everyone agrees we need a center back and most at least one full back I see a lot of "we need a beast in midfield", "we need a creative midfielder" or "we need a pacy winger" but I'm not sure where they would fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, acquiescefc said: And the rest want what, league 1,2? Did you lose your circus? erm ok we will see but FF will not be here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashamanic Posted May 18, 2017 Author Share Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, ViolaOwls said: erm ok we will see but FF will not be here Replace him if he goes, or are the remaining 4 plus Nuhui enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I'd change the system to play 4-3-3. Westwood Hunt Lees New Centre Half Pudil Lee Hutchinson Bannan Forestieri Rhodes Hooper Forestieri and Hooper would play in and around Rhodes, constantly changing positions and linking the play between the midfield and Rhodes. Hunt and Pudil would get high up the pitch to provide the width and balls into the box. Bannan would use his vision to play the forward balls. Lee would be box-to-box. Hutchinson would be the holding player who drops into the defence to make a back three when Hunt and Pudil have bombed forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 38 minutes ago, ashamanic said: This is true, but I think pretty much everyone agrees we need a center back and most at least one full back I see a lot of "we need a beast in midfield", "we need a creative midfielder" or "we need a pacy winger" but I'm not sure where they would fit Yes, I think most agree, we need a left sided centre back. I see Hutchinson as more of an option for central defence, so yes, another ball winner would be needed, but one who was perhaps more creative than Hutch. Depending on which system we played, there may not be a need for another winger. Pace and width could be supplied by the full backs. If that were the case, then there would be an argument for upgrading both full back positions. Playing a single striker, might mean we need to trade in some of our current striking options for a more mobile leader of the line So five signings could do the trick, with perhaps double that leaving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 As it stands, id want something like the below to make use of what we have, as with the contracts dished out its likely most will be staying unless we get mammoth offers. Westwood Lees Hutchinson New CB Hunt Reach Abdi New DM/CM FF Hooper Rhodes/Fletcher Wouldnt object to 433 either. Lee/Bannan/Abdi/Hutch can all play in a 3 with the forward 3 consisting of FF Hooper and Rhodes/Fletcher. Id like us of course to sign some players with more athleticism, power and pace to have another option/set up mind. Hunt needs a challenge for RB and im not convinced at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: I'd change the system to play 4-3-3. Westwood Hunt Lees New Centre Half Pudil Lee Hutchinson Bannan Forestieri Rhodes Hooper Forestieri and Hooper would play in and around Rhodes, constantly changing positions and linking the play between the midfield and Rhodes. Hunt and Pudil would get high up the pitch to provide the width and balls into the box. Bannan would use his vision to play the forward balls. Lee would be box-to-box. Hutchinson would be the holding player who drops into the defence to make a back three when Hunt and Pudil have bombed forward. I like the look of that. I'd worry about Pudil in that system in terms of him having the energy to get back and defend and provide the width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Westwood Hunt Lees New New New Lee/Abdi Hutch McManaman Forestieri Wickham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19owl08 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Obviously without knowing who the manager will be it's hard to say. I'm going to reapond as though it's still Carlos. We need a left back with pace. Pudil was targeted last night because he is slow. I like him but it's our weakest position. Fox has been up & down but also doesn't have any real pace. More controversial, and I'd be reluctant, but we need a right midfielder like Wallace but with pace. Ross would still be integral but from the bench. If Fernando stays we should be looking at a 4231. This formation would get our best players on the pitch & provide a plan B. Biggest question would be who plays up front. I'd go Hooper as he can score goals, hold up & link play. He's the best all rounder. The only reason I don't have Fletcher in is because I like Winnall as he gives us a different option. He runs channels & gets in behind if you play to his strengths. Therefore it was Rhodes or Fletcher. And you just know the £10m player will get the nod. Plus I wouldn't be surprised to see Fletcher sold to lower the wage bill as I still think he will have a few suitors in the Premiership due to his heading ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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