Owl 44 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Last night's horrific injury to Seamus Coleman got me thinking about when Wednesday's Ian Knight had his leg broken against Chester City back in the 80s. It was an even worse tackle than the one last night and the ref didn't even stop the game. He broke fib and tib in 5 places. That ended his promising career where he had several caps for England under 21s and was tipped for big things. I wonder do clubs get any compensation when their players are injured playing for their country? I hope all Wednesday's players come through unscathed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Yes clubs do get compensation But they will argue it's never enough Part of being signed up to FIFA is that clubs MUST release players for international duty - even when injured if the national team insists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S63 Owl Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 May be a daft question here but do/should clubs insure players? E.g pay a premium for each player dependent on their salary/value and then if out injured or in unfortunate event they have career ended the club gets to claim? May not happen now but you can see it happening in a few years to come with the amount players cost and are paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, scram said: Yes clubs do get compensation But they will argue it's never enough Part of being signed up to FIFA is that clubs MUST release players for international duty - even when injured if the national team insists Does the compo fully cover the players wages for the period they are out injured ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I don't think so I very much doubt the Irish FA could stand the wages and compo for Coleman - for eg And that will apply to many associations around the world who have players worth way more than they could compensate for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, scram said: I don't think so I very much doubt the Irish FA could stand the wages and compo for Coleman - for eg And that will apply to many associations around the world who have players worth way more than they could compensate for So you can understand why clubs hate their players going on international duty. , and rightly so. They risk losing their prize assets to injury and still have to pay the player for an injury that occurred whilst they were playing for someone else. I personally hate international football because it disrupts the domestic fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 22 minutes ago, scram said: I don't think so I very much doubt the Irish FA could stand the wages and compo for Coleman - for eg And that will apply to many associations around the world who have players worth way more than they could compensate for Insurance? Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I believe the clubs have to provide the insurance That may cover some of the cost but it doesn't cover the compensation regarding a valuable player being out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekimmyowl Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I love international football, we aren't great but so what we're England and that's fine by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath83 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) I can still hear Ian Nolan's leg snapping, and I was on the Kop Edited March 25, 2017 by Nath83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 One of the worst horror injuries was Dave Busst of Coventry when they play Man Utd. I think that ended his career. It can be an extremely lucrative career but it also goes to show that careers can be ended suddenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Theboylangers Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Put me right off my Chinese takeaway this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath83 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: One of the worst horror injuries was Dave Busst of Coventry when they play Man Utd. I think that ended his career. It can be an extremely lucrative career but it also goes to show that careers can be ended suddenly. I remember Schmeichel nearly throwing up after that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Just now, Nath83 said: I remember Schmeichel nearly throwing up after that one. I think some of the players had counselling after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Owl 44 said: Last night's horrific injury to Seamus Coleman got me thinking about when Wednesday's Ian Knight had his leg broken against Chester City back in the 80s. It was an even worse tackle than the one last night and the ref didn't even stop the game. He broke fib and tib in 5 places. That ended his promising career where he had several caps for England under 21s and was tipped for big things. I wonder do clubs get any compensation when their players are injured playing for their country? I hope all Wednesday's players come through unscathed. That Chester player Bennet should have been banned for life for that tackle; The ball had gone and he stamped through the back of his standing leg and you could hear his leg shatter instantly. I remember Ian Knight lying motionless on the pitch with one arm up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, The Dukeries Owl said: That Chester player Bennet should have been banned for life for that tackle; The ball had gone and he stamped through the back of his standing leg and you could hear his leg shatter instantly. I remember Ian Knight lying motionless on the pitch with one arm up in the air. I was in the North with my Dad and you could hear the snap, it was a cold night as well and ended a very promising career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl 44 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, The Dukeries Owl said: That Chester player Bennet should have been banned for life for that tackle; The ball had gone and he stamped through the back of his standing leg and you could hear his leg shatter instantly. I remember Ian Knight lying motionless on the pitch with one arm up in the air. Yes it was a sickening night that. One of several awful injuries that Alan Smith (father of current physio Paul) had to deal with. I remember when Paul Warhurst was knocked out cold against Spora in the UEFA cup. He saved his life that night. I went home in tears because I thought he'd broken his neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Nath83 said: I can still hear Ian Nolan's leg snapping, and I was on the Kop It was Justin Edinburgh of Spurs who did him with a horrific 2 footed tackle. Nolan sued him and won. Dirty Bxxxtard manages Northampton now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, S61 Owl said: May be a daft question here but do/should clubs insure players? E.g pay a premium for each player dependent on their salary/value and then if out injured or in unfortunate event they have career ended the club gets to claim? May not happen now but you can see it happening in a few years to come with the amount players cost and are paid. I worked in the insurance industry many years ago and the broker I worked for actually arranged the insurance for Wednesday. So many years ago I can't remember too many details now (over 35 years) but in those days they insured the players for injuries and for career ending injuries. The insurance was to cover the loss to the club rather than the loss to the player. e.g. if we bought a player for £100,000 (as if) and his career was ended by an injury the club got a percentage of the transfer fee back. The insurance didn't pay anything to the player as far as I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiejohn Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Knight would have been an absolute star for us he had the potential to be our Alan hansen who to this day is the best centre half I've seen in English football Bennett was an horrible man who reveled in his reputation I know from a mate he was booed at the lane not long after the event that tells you everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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