OwlofOliveGrove Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 There has been a lot of discussion on here recently about the ridiculous situation regarding segregation and seating allocations at Hillsborough, and rightly so. South Yorkshire Police and the Safety Advisory Group have run out of excuses to the extent they are now telling outright lies regarding the concourse size in the Leppings Lane end to justify the measures being put in place. The inquest outcome hasn't helped matters admittedly but it's about time what happened in '89 (apart from the remembrance of the people who lost their lives) was consigned to the history books. I just wondered whether people think a new stadium would mean a fresh start and the "new Hillsborough" being treated like seemingly ANY other large stadium in the country, or would SYP and SAG continue to treat us like children and hit us with the same restrictions we see now? Personally I want us to stay at Hillsborough. It's our spiritual home and we saw the possible development opportunities (see World Cup plans) but I don't think I could stand seeing empty sections like the North West Corner, either tier of the away end or the netted off swathes of the South Stand if we get into the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswfc1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Knock the west stand/ corner down and build another. We can cope without it for a season. Build a blackburn away end style stand with executive boxes and proper segregation. Sag are only gunna get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkowl Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 What's sag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Ask your mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 New stadium. New start Jon Newsome. Soft disclosure programme advised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 28 minutes ago, OwlofOliveGrove said: There has been a lot of discussion on here recently about the ridiculous situation regarding segregation and seating allocations at Hillsborough, and rightly so. South Yorkshire Police and the Safety Advisory Group have run out of excuses to the extent they are now telling outright lies regarding the concourse size in the Leppings Lane end to justify the measures being put in place. The inquest outcome hasn't helped matters admittedly but it's about time what happened in '89 (apart from the remembrance of the people who lost their lives) was consigned to the history books. I just wondered whether people think a new stadium would mean a fresh start and the "new Hillsborough" being treated like seemingly ANY other large stadium in the country, or would SYP and SAG continue to treat us like children and hit us with the same restrictions we see now? Personally I want us to stay at Hillsborough. It's our spiritual home and we saw the possible development opportunities (see World Cup plans) but I don't think I could stand seeing empty sections like the North West Corner, either tier of the away end or the netted off swathes of the South Stand if we get into the Premier League. I have also thought in the past whether we just assume that SYP/SAG will accept the new stadium or continue to place ridiculous restrictions upon us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhgate Owl Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, Hawkowl said: What's sag? south African gorillas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 You have to love the fact that SAG continually screw the club over with their zealous segregation...and yet on Friday night they didn't see fit to have any notable police presence at the Leppings Lane end following the final whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoOkOut Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Has anyone got any pictures of what the main man at Sag looks like ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, LoOkOut said: Has anyone got any pictures of what the main man at Sag looks like ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, LoOkOut said: Has anyone got any pictures of what the main man at Sag looks like ? Can't help unfortunately as all bureaucrats are faceless.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactus Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 44 minutes ago, OwlofOliveGrove said: There has been a lot of discussion on here recently about the ridiculous situation regarding segregation and seating allocations at Hillsborough, and rightly so. South Yorkshire Police and the Safety Advisory Group have run out of excuses to the extent they are now telling outright lies regarding the concourse size in the Leppings Lane end to justify the measures being put in place. The inquest outcome hasn't helped matters admittedly but it's about time what happened in '89 (apart from the remembrance of the people who lost their lives) was consigned to the history books. I just wondered whether people think a new stadium would mean a fresh start and the "new Hillsborough" being treated like seemingly ANY other large stadium in the country, or would SYP and SAG continue to treat us like children and hit us with the same restrictions we see now? Personally I want us to stay at Hillsborough. It's our spiritual home and we saw the possible development opportunities (see World Cup plans) but I don't think I could stand seeing empty sections like the North West Corner, either tier of the away end or the netted off swathes of the South Stand if we get into the Premier League. Is that verifiable or just your opinion? If it's the first then the public officials involved are likely to be committing a criminal offence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 The only way we can confront sag is for the club to confront sag in the media. Put them to task, embarrass and humiliate them like they are the integrity of the fans. Only that way will we get real answers as to what is an embarrassment to the club. The over kill is shocking. Newcastle have caused a little fuss, but it needs to be closer at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaOwls Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, alanharper said: is that a dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlofOliveGrove Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Just now, cactus said: Is that verifiable or just your opinion? If it's the first then the public officials involved are likely to be committing a criminal offence! There was a "justification" for the allocation in the Leps Lane being restricted because of the concourse size...how can that possibly be true when there have been numerous games over the past few years that have had a full allocation?! I'd love to prove it but, even then, I doubt there would be any action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 We need to knock down the away end and build a stand which can accommodate different numbers of supporters dependant on demand from home/away fans. I guess it will need access and exit routes to be accommodating as possible given the paranoia from SYP/SAG. We did manage to build a bridge away from the South Stand. Might need that type of access extended where West/Sound stands meet currently. Even with a new stand its hard to see how we will ever use to its full capacity given the level of risk aversion we currently see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1963owl Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 what piisses me, is that we never hear of the club kicking off about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 50 minutes ago, Hawkowl said: What's sag? Faceless Jobsworths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 1 hour ago, OwlofOliveGrove said: There has been a lot of discussion on here recently about the ridiculous situation regarding segregation and seating allocations at Hillsborough, and rightly so. South Yorkshire Police and the Safety Advisory Group have run out of excuses to the extent they are now telling outright lies regarding the concourse size in the Leppings Lane end to justify the measures being put in place. The inquest outcome hasn't helped matters admittedly but it's about time what happened in '89 (apart from the remembrance of the people who lost their lives) was consigned to the history books. I just wondered whether people think a new stadium would mean a fresh start and the "new Hillsborough" being treated like seemingly ANY other large stadium in the country, or would SYP and SAG continue to treat us like children and hit us with the same restrictions we see now? Personally I want us to stay at Hillsborough. It's our spiritual home and we saw the possible development opportunities (see World Cup plans) but I don't think I could stand seeing empty sections like the North West Corner, either tier of the away end or the netted off swathes of the South Stand if we get into the Premier League. The problem isn't the stadium. The problem is we have the worst police force in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 1 minute ago, 1963owl said: what piisses me, is that we never hear of the club kicking off about it Its become a sensitive issue. They wont want to upset the apple cart publicly. Who knows what it said behind closed doors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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