Spencerowl Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Now we have all had time to digest what happened yesterday i feel strange about our fans reactions, maybe it's just online but since I joined OT (not that long ago) I feel some perspective is in order. living between Banbury and France because of my job, I have had to entertain clients on various occasions and taken them to see Oxford UTD. For the younger on here, back in the day Oxford were a huge club, premier league equivilant. See now what's happened to them is they have a mixed fan base, those who remember to good times and constantly frustrated, and those who are happy winning and will support the club whatever league, whatever happens, always positive. Sound familiar? when they got a new owner with big plans, the crowd were fully supportive, new ground and hopes were high. It didn't work out. negativity spreads, attendances fell, results suffered and relegation followed. Owners and fans got bored and greedy leaving the club high and dry. IMO this was down to a local majority of fans never supporting the club or change, in fighting spread, greed takes over and the owners trying to keep sections on the fans happy but failing. Oxford UTD should be a case study for us, fans turning on one another, happy clappers vs "I've only missed 1 game in 50 years" crew. It really doesn't matter in the end. Every supporter has a view and is equally as important to the club by each fan being equally not important if you see what I mean, if you have never missed a game the club takes your view as no greater than someone who has never been. Collectively however we do make a difference. We could have been Oxford, league one strugglers, no money and pooh squad. We are not, but we are lucky. An owner who wants to press on, good squad and good position and whatever your view on CC we he hope - and that's what football is all about HOPE. We cannot turn on one another as we will then appear the fans who cannot be pleased, making our club unattractive to everyone. I never want to see our club go like Oxford have, but fans can sometimes be there own worst enemy. We have hope and thats thats all that matters and some clubs would , in a heartbeat, would swap positions with us. the players, coach, owners and some fans don't deserve the criticisms played upon them. WE ARE ALL WEDNESDAY and we have HOPE and we MUST NOT turn on each other now. Rant over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Don't think you can say Oxford were a huge club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, Spencerowl said: Now we have all had time to digest what happened yesterday i feel strange about our fans reactions, maybe it's just online but since I joined OT (not that long ago) I feel some perspective is in order. living between Banbury and France because of my job, I have had to entertain clients on various occasions and taken them to see Oxford UTD. For the younger on here, back in the day Oxford were a huge club, premier league equivilant. See now what's happened to them is they have a mixed fan base, those who remember to good times and constantly frustrated, and those who are happy winning and will support the club whatever league, whatever happens, always positive. Sound familiar? when they got a new owner with big plans, the crowd were fully supportive, new ground and hopes were high. It didn't work out. negativity spreads, attendances fell, results suffered and relegation followed. Owners and fans got bored and greedy leaving the club high and dry. IMO this was down to a local majority of fans never supporting the club or change, in fighting spread, greed takes over and the owners trying to keep sections on the fans happy but failing. Oxford UTD should be a case study for us, fans turning on one another, happy clappers vs "I've only missed 1 game in 50 years" crew. It really doesn't matter in the end. Every supporter has a view and is equally as important to the club by each fan being equally not important if you see what I mean, if you have never missed a game the club takes your view as no greater than someone who has never been. Collectively however we do make a difference. We could have been Oxford, league one strugglers, no money and pooh squad. We are not, but we are lucky. An owner who wants to press on, good squad and good position and whatever your view on CC we he hope - and that's what football is all about HOPE. We cannot turn on one another as we will then appear the fans who cannot be pleased, making our club unattractive to everyone. I never want to see our club go like Oxford have, but fans can sometimes be there own worst enemy. We have hope and thats thats all that matters and some clubs would , in a heartbeat, would swap positions with us. the players, coach, owners and some fans don't deserve the criticisms played upon them. WE ARE ALL WEDNESDAY and we have HOPE and we MUST NOT turn on each other now. Rant over Just read this with my Oxford supporting bro in law. He's a bit confused, very positive vibe down there, a team on the up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Just read this with my Oxford supporting bro in law. He's a bit confused, very positive vibe down there, a team on the up! Im talking historically - I agree they are on the up now but in recent history all was not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie1973 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, zzmdu said: Just read this with my Oxford supporting bro in law. He's a bit confused, very positive vibe down there, a team on the up! Was thinking that myself Im assuming its the same Oxford United who are at their highest league position for about 20 years?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Don't think you can say Oxford were a huge club Hmm, depends on your view point I guess - they have never been Man UTD agreed but my point is very much what can happen to a club that WAS much bigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, eddie1973 said: Was thinking that myself Im assuming its the same Oxford United who are at their highest league position for about 20 years?? Historically - in not talking THIS SEASON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Don't think you can say Oxford were a huge club They must be good - they reach the final of the boat race every year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Is this the same massive Oxford who only ever reached the top league once because their owner Robert Maxwell over funded them way beyond their means by stealing money from his employees pensions funds but have otherwise always been a small provincial team bobbing back and forth in the lower divisions? Good comparison! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, The Dukeries Owl said: Is this the same massive Oxford who only ever reached the top league once because their owner Robert Maxwell over funded them way beyond their means by stealing money from his employees pensions funds but have otherwise always been a small provincial team bobbing back and forth in the lower divisions? Good comparison! What a strange post, your missing the point. Irrespective of club as the comparison the point remains the same. Fans turning on each other is the point - Oxford is very much just one of many teams who have had negativity spread causing problems. The view on them is irrelevant surly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 30 minutes ago, Spencerowl said: WE ARE ALL WEDNESDAY and we have HOPE and we MUST NOT turn on each other now. Rant over So finally, here's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 As someone, who was born in Oxford, and grew up in Oxfordshire, but has also spent plenty of time living in Sheffield, there is no comparison. Oxford are quite well supported, and have a decent away following, but football down here is not the same as it is Sheffield. To a certain extent, and perhaps sadly, a big part of my life has been based around Sheffield Wednesday football club. I was a Wednesday fan before I moved to Sheffield, the only one in my school, but it was not until I moved up to Sheffield, that I knew what that really meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, gurujuan said: As someone, who was born in Oxford, and grew up in Oxfordshire, but has also spent plenty of time living in Sheffield, there is no comparison. Oxford are quite well supported, and have a decent away following, but football down here is not the same as it is Sheffield. To a certain extent, and perhaps sadly, a big part of my life has been based around Sheffield Wednesday football club. I was a Wednesday fan before I moved to Sheffield, the only one in my school, but it was not until I moved up to Sheffield, that I knew what that really meant. I completely agree - my situation is in reverse to yours moving away but have family still up there. It is different I agree but you could name several clubs who have suffered the same fate - Coventry being another. my post however was about negativity and only using oxfords history as an example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, steveger said: He just did Please define HUGE? and what offends so many by calling them huge? Huge compared to Banbury UTD? Or huge compared to Man UTD? Huge or not in yoyr opinion they have been a bigger club then they are is my point FFS why can't you see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, daleblue said: So finally, here's the point. Ha ha yes sorry went on a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengrass Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Oxford......stick to student life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 So what is it that makes Banbury cross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, ChinaOwl said: So what is it that makes Banbury cross? A roundabout.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, Spencerowl said: A roundabout.... Magic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencerowl Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, ChinaOwl said: Magic! No we leave them to Swindon, pith forks would be out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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