s6 owl Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Lumping hopeful balls up to the most clinical striker in the football league WTF is all that about? It's criminal that we should be aloud to sign such a prestigous striker and not build the team around him, CC needs to look at this and stop shoehorning players into the team such as Bannan and Wallace who are never going to provide consistent and quality service into the strikers but it just adds to the frustration when you have a striker that just so happens to be Jordan Rhodes in there. We're using the same tactics that an overachieving average championship squad would (brum under rowett for example) except we're much much better than this and putting on a lacklustre display against an average Brentford team at home with placeless wingers and no outlet from midfield whilst having the likes of McManaman on the bench is as baffling as it is frustrating Rhodes, Hooper, FF, Winnall and Fletcher are all capable of scoring goals consistently in this league but that's not the case and it's a f*****g joke if I'm honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash60s Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 all 5 on against Weeds from the off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Let's be fair, in every game he's played for us so far he's not been very good has he. For his last 3 appearances he's moved like a tin man Lack of service?? Possibly-but in my opinion he looks way off match sharpness more than anything else, which is understandable However needs to improve dramatically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 36 minutes ago, torres said: Let's be fair, in every game he's played for us so far he's not been very good has he. For his last 3 appearances he's moved like a tin man Lack of service?? Possibly-but in my opinion he looks way off match sharpness more than anything else, which is understandable However needs to improve dramatically This is the down side of Jordan Rhodes, if he doesn't score, he's a passenger. Thankfully, at this level, he usually scores, but I think he'll struggle in our set up. Winnall has already gone from a goal every other game at Barnsley, to about one in six here. Our tactics mean that we are a bit of a graveyard for strikers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I think he has looked ok given the lack of decent service. Made reasonable attempts with his two half chances yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan48 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Agree torres , last night 1st half ,their front 2 harried our backline as we tried to move it in our usual pedestrian way . Our front 2 backed off , didnt put them under pressure and allowed them to play out ,probably under C C direction . Even big Dave puts himself around a bit more than Rhodes does at the moment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 defeat and Jordan Rhodes is crap. Pathetic fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I wonder how many more goals winnall and rhodes will score compared to Nuhiu in our current set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan48 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Noone 's said he;s crap . You could have put Messi and Ronaldo up front last night in the 1st half and they wouldn't have had a touch . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, torres said: Let's be fair, in every game he's played for us so far he's not been very good has he. For his last 3 appearances he's moved like a tin man Lack of service?? Possibly-but in my opinion he looks way off match sharpness more than anything else, which is understandable However needs to improve dramatically Needs to be played with a close co-striker. Boro, Udders and Blackburn fans will tell you this after watching him in hundreds of games in which he scored shedloads. Or, we can leave him isolated, in which case he won't be worth playing, like Karanka quickly concluded. However, Leeds are one of his owned teams. Hopefully I will be shown to be wrong on Saturday when he walks off with the match all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 7 hours ago, s6 owl said: Lumping hopeful balls up to the most clinical striker in the football league WTF is all that about? It's criminal that we should be aloud to sign such a prestigous striker and not build the team around him, CC needs to look at this and stop shoehorning players into the team such as Bannan and Wallace who are never going to provide consistent and quality service into the strikers but it just adds to the frustration when you have a striker that just so happens to be Jordan Rhodes in there. We're using the same tactics that an overachieving average championship squad would (brum under rowett for example) except we're much much better than this and putting on a lacklustre display against an average Brentford team at home with placeless wingers and no outlet from midfield whilst having the likes of McManaman on the bench is as baffling as it is frustrating Rhodes, Hooper, FF, Winnall and Fletcher are all capable of scoring goals consistently in this league but that's not the case and it's a f*****g joke if I'm honest Agree. Why sign wide men like buckley, mcmanaman, wallace, reach (most expensive left back ever), emanuelson (whatever that signing was) and the sign forwards like rhodes, hooper and winnall who like crosses to play a narrow game. At least play a 433 if we are going to play narrow. A bit bemusing to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 To be fair these guys do all need a bit of service and from what I saw last night, Mcmanaman looked the one player capable of providing it. He looks a real old fashioned singer who can actually beat a man.Unlike Reach and Wallace. He has to start on Saturday surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, gurujuan said: This is the down side of Jordan Rhodes, if he doesn't score, he's a passenger. Thankfully, at this level, he usually scores, but I think he'll struggle in our set up. Winnall has already gone from a goal every other game at Barnsley, to about one in six here. Our tactics mean that we are a bit of a graveyard for strikers Interesting choice of words. I was only thinking this morning we are a graveyard for strikers. When my teenage daughter tried growing plants in her room on her windowsill, we called it Death Row. Bit like our striker berth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, stevewhiterose said: To be fair these guys do all need a bit of service and from what I saw last night, Mcmanaman looked the one player capable of providing it. He looks a real old fashioned singer who can actually beat a man.Unlike Reach and Wallace. He has to start on Saturday surely. Callum McManamam sings Songs from the Sixties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Holmowl said: Interesting choice of words. I was only thinking this morning we are a graveyard for strikers. When my teenage daughter tried growing plants in her room on her windowsill, we called it Death Row. Bit like our striker berth. We seem to have more quality strikers than ever at our club now. 3 or 4 years ago we coildnt get one for love nor money. Yet we seem to be creating less and less chances and scoring less and less goals. Jut goes to show its not the strikers but the way we play. How many managers would like the strikeforce we have? In fact its not just strikers. We havr attacking quality all over the pitch yet its like watching paint dry. Leeds will beat us at the weekend and we wont win the playoffs unless we change our style. But we wont. I fancy Huddersfeld myself. Less resources but playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 26 minutes ago, gurujuan said: This is the down side of Jordan Rhodes, if he doesn't score, he's a passenger. Thankfully, at this level, he usually scores, but I think he'll struggle in our set up. Winnall has already gone from a goal every other game at Barnsley, to about one in six here. Our tactics mean that we are a bit of a graveyard for strikers Yep, our tactics meant that our players who see most of the ball are our keeper & centre backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneTheOwl Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 We created shed loads last night! They either were saved by a quality keeper or missed from 1 yard by a striker on 40k. But i still agree with all of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 35 minutes ago, aeroswfc said: 1 defeat and Jordan Rhodes is crap. Pathetic fans. No one has said that, assuming you go do you think he's played well though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twolaptops Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 33 minutes ago, alan48 said: Noone 's said he;s crap . You could have put Messi and Ronaldo up front last night in the 1st half and they wouldn't have had a touch . Like a Cardiff players opinion matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan93 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I said before we signed him if we don't start creating he'll be a waste if time. I think starting Mcman/Winnall will help him personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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