modboy Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 All match he was going bananas at our players and barking instructions, and looking very frustrated to the extent of angry. Is it time to go back to basics I wonder eg rigid 442 as maybe he just doesn't have the players to carry out his strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Maybe he is over complicating the system and players are uncertain. It also needs a midfield that offers more balance and dynamism than we currently have. There is a missing link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 God, everyone is too clever for a footballer. Well, probably anyone but the majority of the British public who appear to believe, without question, everything that they read in the Daily Express, The Sun, The Times and the Daily Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 Wonder if he is feeling the pressure from above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justbeanz Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 How complicated is this instruction - "get the f**kin ball in the box" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Justbeanz said: How complicated is this instruction - "get the f**kin ball in the box" Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Parkinson Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Reach cuts in way to much and leaves pudil so open and only time he got a decent ball in was wen he moved to lb we sit to deep at times and dont press hard inuf in my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Justbeanz said: How complicated is this instruction - "get the f**kin ball in the box" Because if they did that and it goes wrong, it'll be something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justbeanz Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 minute ago, pgmetcalf said: Because if they did that and it goes wrong, it'll be something else. Plan B ? Now thats where it gets complicated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheffWedBornOwl Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Looking at the "Post Match" interview with CC, not his usual demeanour.. he looked pissed off with somebody or the antics of the players in the closing stages of the game. Not "pointy finger" time though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Togdiver said: Looking at the "Post Match" interview with CC, not his usual demeanour.. he looked pissed off with somebody or the antics of the players in the closing stages of the game. Not "pointy finger" time though... His comments on the OS make it clear he's not happy there: Quote But we must control the red cards, this is something that cannot happen.Read more at http://www.swfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/things-we-can-and-cannot-control-3530369.aspx#eqUpcxdrGpHWzGfO.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 An interesting point, and I think you're on the right lines here. I've criticized Carlos' tactics/management on this site repeatedly, but that's not because I think he's a bad manager. I don't think Wenger's a bad manager either, but in both cases I think that they're the wrong managers for their respective clubs. It's often not about good/bad managers, it's about whether a manager fits your team's resources, and I don't think Carlos fits ours. As a result, he's trying to employ tactics which are not really his forte and that's why so many of our performances have been poor and good players are playing badly. In fairness, if FF scores last night then I'm sure we'd have got something from the game, but I'm referring to how we've played this season generally. The problem we have is that without parachute money Carlos won't be able to do his own thing, so we probably need a manager who's better fitted to our spending power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingernuts Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crag the owl Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 1 hour ago, mkowl said: Maybe he is over complicating the system and players are uncertain. It also needs a midfield that offers more balance and dynamism than we currently have. There is a missing link Kieren Lee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justbeanz Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 In my opinion it isnt that complicated. I think it stands out a mile that we seriously lack service into the box. I really fear for Winnall because he thrives on the service we continually fail to provide. Our corners and set pieces are shocking at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 he's getting results and we are heading for the play offs ,why would anyone question what he's doing ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, torryowl said: he's getting results and we are heading for the play offs ,why would anyone question what he's doing ..... this wasnt a criticism of him, more a question over our players ability / intelligence Edited January 21, 2017 by modboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 36 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: An interesting point, and I think you're on the right lines here. I've criticized Carlos' tactics/management on this site repeatedly, but that's not because I think he's a bad manager. I don't think Wenger's a bad manager either, but in both cases I think that they're the wrong managers for their respective clubs. It's often not about good/bad managers, it's about whether a manager fits your team's resources, and I don't think Carlos fits ours. As a result, he's trying to employ tactics which are not really his forte and that's why so many of our performances have been poor and good players are playing badly. In fairness, if FF scores last night then I'm sure we'd have got something from the game, but I'm referring to how we've played this season generally. The problem we have is that without parachute money Carlos won't be able to do his own thing, so we probably need a manager who's better fitted to our spending power. Yes interesting thoughts He has brought a lot of this on himself though. We currently have two of the best players in the league, at playing in between the lines (Forestieri and Abdi), players who could cause opposition endless problems if encouraged to do so. However, for whatever reason, Carlos sets up with two wingers who are instructed to operate out of position, tucking in to make the extra man in midfield. We'd be much better set up in a 4-2-3-1 system with Abdi, Forestieri and, maybe Reach, all playing behind a lone striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I think the idea of keeping the ball makes sense but we struggle to find the openings, unless we counter. Hughtons more traditional approach seems to work very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 i dont watch enough of the other teams to know but what sort of style do the other teams have in the championship Newcastle - fast and pacy (i think) Brighton - fast and pacy too i think Leeds - strong and direct? Reading - not a clue Hudds - tippy tappy play out of the back like us Us - slowly does it and narrow Derby Preston Fulham Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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