Northampton Owl Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Ask Chris Kirkland after he took one in the chops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northampton Owl Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Poundland gets more patrons than Waitrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Grimbarian said: Yeah I specifically didn't number them as I don't consider one more than the other, because of sustained seasons in the Premier league by Swansea I'd put them very close in the equation to us TBH, Hull no chance, if they somehow survive, are taken over, get new owners and start throwing around the cash with full attendances it'll become closer and closer until we're promoted. Interesting that you would put Swansea near us, I'd put them nowhere near us, Leeds, Forest, Derby, Wolves, or even Sheffield United. This is Swansea's 6th season in the Premier League and Hull's 5th season - over the course of 9 seasons; that's pretty close. Add to the mix Wigan spent 8 successive season in the past 11 years in the Premier League - and they weren't then, and aren't now, anywhere near the clubs I mention above either. In fact, Wigan, Swansea and Hull could spent the next 25 years in the Premier League and they wouldn't be close to Wednesday or Leeds in the "big club" status. The joy of football is all about different opinions though I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said: Interesting that you would put Swansea near us, I'd put them nowhere near us, Leeds, Forest, Derby, Wolves, or even Sheffield United. This is Swansea's 6th season in the Premier League and Hull's 5th season - over the course of 9 seasons; that's pretty close. Add to the mix Wigan spent 8 successive season in the past 11 years in the Premier League - and they weren't then, and aren't now, anywhere near the clubs I mention above either. In fact, Wigan, Swansea and Hull could spent the next 25 years in the Premier League and they wouldn't be close to Wednesday or Leeds in the "big club" status. The joy of football is all about different opinions though I guess. Wigan didn't qualify due to poor attendances and spending power, especially in the last 3-4 seasons before the final drop their spending was significantly reined in, one trophy didn't qualify them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lythamowl Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 hours ago, eckington owl said: Their away support is one of the best in the country, in my opinion. when they are not assualting goalkeepers that is....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Grimbarian said: Wigan didn't qualify due to poor attendances and spending power, especially in the last 3-4 seasons before the final drop their spending was significantly reined in, one trophy didn't qualify them! You're a harsh man! I'd place 8 successive Premier League seasons, winning the FA Cup, a record signing of £7m, and a record sell of £16m pretty high up there with recent achievements (and again, ahead of Swansea's recent achievements). Worth noting that Swansea's average Premier League attendance is 20,398 and Wigan's is 18,575 - only a difference of c.1,800 - and Wigan have the Manchester clubs in pretty close proximity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atabor Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 In the past, L**ds have had their moments, but so have we! At the weekend they managed 25,000 against Derby, we managed 28,000 against Huddersfield. We have to split support between 2 teams in Sheffield - and both doing well! In my opinion, as it stands today, we are the bigger club and hopefully by the end of the season we will finish higher than them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 This has been done many times, considering the population around Leeds and the fact they're a one city club, their support is poor. Newcastle and Sunderland wipe the floor with them with smaller populations to draw from. We could and should be doing better, the stadium needs sorting so that the full capacity can be utilised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Bigger city, only one club, they should be bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 While there is no one metric of "bigger",on any reasonable take Leeds are a bigger club. They have been within living memory a dominant force in the game; they have more absentee (south of England/Ireland support); they have a bigger media profile. I would say they are as obviously "bigger" than use as we are bigger than Sheff U. That might not have been so in 1960 but things have changed. In 1960 you'd probably have said Everton were bigger than Liverpool. Why this matters to people I have no idea. If it's important to you to support a big club, then support Man U or Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 It's a bit strange how much I dislike Leeds given that the three Leeds fans I know are all delightful. I think it's very amusing how far they have fallen away and lost touch with the really big clubs over the past quarter of a century. The other thing to say about "bigness" is that as usually understood it is becoming a redundant concept. You'd think that if X is bigger than Y then over the medium to long term X will outperform Y. The domination of TV revenues and within this the rise of superclubs is undermining this. So for example Forest are on all normal measures bigger than Brighton but in five years time I reckon Brighton will be higher in the league structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) leeds take 100k fans everywhere so they're a lot bigger than us Edited January 17, 2017 by Animal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyowl1 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Grimbarian said: For me the criteria that makes up which club is bigger is: Attendances home and away Financial spending power League currently played in Trophies won to date And yes for me Leeds are the bigger club, but if we get promoted and stay there beyond one season IMO the increased finances would move us past them (assuming they stayed below us). So at the moment Leeds beat us on one your criteria , but are the bigger club ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 minute ago, elyowl1 said: So at the moment Leeds beat us on one your criteria , but are the bigger club ?? Yep, just, don't be sad we're on our way back! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 In all seriousness who gives a shiny sh*te. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, bronxowl said: Their catchment area; Castleford Wakefield York Halifax Dewsbury Brighouse Keighley Pontefract Knottingley says it all really Harrogate Wetherby York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 When Leeds are doing well they are always going to to get very large crowds as there is no competition from another team in the same city. Just imagine the crowds we would get if the blunts didn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Lucas Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Leeds Away Support Average 3,200 at least 1000 of these are chavy little shlts out for trouble not interested in football Numbers look interesting but it's a following with a bad reputation!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hahaha, they're a one team city... nuff said! We are MASSIVE ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickswfc Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Whats our average away support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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