Guest Kameron Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Beholder said: Yes but Lee was always the player who could keep this up consistently. For a number of seasons he has had an infectious effect on his team mates. Remove Lee and you might get the odd performance but on the whole we go down quite a few notches. My worry is that we play in a way that seems heavily reliant on him. We have played well once this season, Lee is one of the players that needs upgrading if we're to move to the next level. We have note progressed on last season because we failed to address the glaring weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Carlos seemed to be alluding to that Lee could require an operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 25 minutes ago, Daz said: Would Lee be an option at right back to improve us there and then use Abdi or a Hourihane type of player in the middle to replace him? Still think Reach should be on the left wing too, with McManaman or Wallace on the right. One of my goldfish would be an improvement on Hunt's second half performance today. Agree that Reach should be on the left wing. I get the impression he plays him at left back to accommodate Forestieri's tendency to drift wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just now, full fathom five said: Carlos seemed to be alluding to that Lee could require an operation. Yep. That is what I thought. Hip op. Out for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Hows Judge's recovery going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Lee is an exceptional midfield player. If you want to highlight one mistake in isolation, then we can play a game. You show where he's gone wrong in the last two seasons and I'll counter? If we're to get promoted we need better, Wallace was our highest raked midfielder last season. http://www.squawka.com/players/kieran-lee-lee/stats#performance-score#sheffield-wednesday-(current)#football-league-championship#10#season-2015/2016#166#all-matches#1-49#by-match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 David Jones is currently ranked higher than lee and he's hardly played. http://www.squawka.com/football-player-rankings#performance-score#player-stats#english-football-league---championship|season-2016/2017#all-teams#midfielder#16#42#0#0#90#05/08/2016#02/01/2017#season#1#all-matches#total#desc#total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Kameron said: If we're to get promoted we need better, Wallace was our highest raked midfielder last season. http://www.squawka.com/players/kieran-lee-lee/stats#performance-score#sheffield-wednesday-(current)#football-league-championship#10#season-2015/2016#166#all-matches#1-49#by-match I'm not much one for stats...they can prove anything. Look with your own eyes at games. If you do and still think we need better than Lee, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Look we don't need feckin squaka ratings to tell us who is the best midfielder. We have eyes. Lee has been outstanding for us and losing him is a big problem for Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: I'm not much one for stats...they can prove anything. Look with your own eyes at games. If you do and still think we need better than Lee, ok. There not stats, there official player rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 11 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Lee is an exceptional midfield player. If you want to highlight one mistake in isolation, then we can play a game. You show where he's gone wrong in the last two seasons and I'll counter? If we want to progress we need much better than Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just now, Beholder said: Look we don't need feckin squaka ratings to tell us who is the best midfielder. We have eyes. Lee has been outstanding for us and losing him is a big problem for Carlos. It wasn't at Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just now, Kameron said: It wasn't at Newcastle. Right. I'm not arguing this point all the way through the thread over and over. You don't like Lee. We get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 As I said last summer ... Lee, Bannan & Fernando would be difficult to find like for like replacements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Official player ratings come from the people who watch players play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Beholder said: Right. I'm not arguing this point all the way through the thread over and over. You don't like Lee. We get that. I think he's a decent player who has served us well, but we need better in central midfield to challenge for promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: If we want to progress we need much better than Lee. If we need better than Lee, where does that leave the other 10 in your eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Lee should be starting when fit. He's better than Bannan because Hutchinson can do what Bannan does and more while Lee can help in attack. But why start him today when he is clearly not ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: Official player ratings come from the people who watch players play. Yep, three people now collect data sat just below the press area in the south stand, they must be wasting their time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Think we should go for Hourahan. Although it sounds like Burnley are sniffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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