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  1. 207 points

    For anyone who is worried.

    For anyone who is stressed. For anyone who is panicking that we might not get the job done. This isn't worry, stress or panic. This is excitement. Worry is watching Nick Parker on the steps of the high court begging someone to save us. It's sitting in the corner of your kitchen listening to the radio waiting to hear if we've been put out of business. It's not knowing if our kids will have a team to grow up supporting the way we did. Stress is needing a win against Palace with Leon Clarke and Francis Jeffers up front. It's relying on other results to survive. It's being thankful for last minute equalisers in other games that keep us up. Panic is all of the above being repeated because we've seen it before. It's the Wednesday way. It's the same old same old. It's inviting pressure when we're a goal up. Today isn't about that. Today is why we buy our season tickets. It's why we buy our memberships. It's why we get up at crazy times in far flung countries to listen to the match. It's why we buy on the day. It's why we only watch Wednesday live at Wembley or Cardiff. It's why we always choose a blue shirt or jumper or jacket over a red one. It's why we eschew streaky bacon. It's why we exist. It's our reason for spending time, money and effort week in week out on a few blokes trying to put a ball into a net. It's why we take our kids the way our fathers did. It's why we remember every single one of us who has passed away and keep their memories alive every time we look to them for solace and inspiration. This is why we tried to save our club. It's why we had the time to go protests, the black balloons and the 2 seater Bentley rants. Regardless of how you felt at the time, the ones doing it were doing it so we could have days like today. Tonight we are all Wednesday. Tonight we roar.
  2. 132 points


    Crossed hell and high water to get a ticket for Sunday. Finally got one in with the Udders fans. Was excited to say the least then I went and had a bloody heart attack. So now I'm stuck in a hospital bed hooked up to all sorts of tubes and monitors with no chance off going. Here's hoping im out for Wednesday night.
  3. 129 points

    I really hope we go up for one reason

    My lad. Does anyone else get this with kids? Im honestly sick of him coming home from school having the absolute bobber ripped out of him for supporting WEDNESDAY. Take a wild guess who these little sheep support? Man Utd, Liverpool, Man City etc etc etc. None of which they have ever been to see. I buy him the stuff (bag, pencil case etc) and all he gets is "they are crap" "support someone good" he's only 7 and fair play to him he still wants to come to every game we go too. We live a fair way away now so none of his mates are owls BUT WE STILL GO to games. If We go up, I hope it will show these these stupid kids what I already know "WE ARE ON OUR WAY" and are a great side and have a wonderful future. Stick with us my boy
  4. 101 points


    That the side side tonight was exactly the one that lost against Hull, other than Fletcher, in place of an injured Hooper. Our recruitment in the summer was horrific.
  5. 99 points
    Hillsborough Stadium 19:45 Wednesday, 17th of May 2017 TODAY’S OPPOSITES But enough about them. We are Sheffield Wednesday and we are on our way! Let’s do this together! MATCHDAY THINGS Matchday Pie: Terrier and Potato. Matchday Drink: Last chance to take the 16 Pint Challenge at a packed out Hillsborough this season. Matchday Song: Sweetback’s Theme by Melvin Van Peebles… MATCHDAY FACTS Sheffield Wednesday could have midfielder Sam Hutchinson (knee) back for their Championship play-off semi-final second leg against Huddersfield. Striker Gary Hooper (hamstring) is likely to miss out again so Steven Fletcher is set to keep his place. Huddersfield will recall goalkeeper Danny Ward in place of Joel Coleman after he missed Sunday's goalless first leg through suspension. Ward aside, Town boss David Wagner will probably name with the same team. A sold-out Hillsborough is a lively place to play and, if last season's semi-final against Brighton is anything to go by, it undoubtedly favours the home side. Carlos Carvalhal's side have lost just six league games on home soil this season, and we may see them in a more attacking mindset than in West Yorkshire. Head To Head ▪ Sheffield Wednesday are now unbeaten in eight matches against Huddersfield (W5 D3) in all competitions. ▪ Huddersfield have now failed to score a goal in all three matches (including play-offs) against the Owls this season. ▪ Indeed, the Terriers have only managed two goals in their last eight meetings with the Owls. ▪ Sheffield Wednesday have won both of their previous play-off games at Hillsborough without conceding a goal - 1-0 v Brentford (2005) and 2-0 v Brighton (2016). ▪ The Terriers have lost just one of their last five play-off fixtures played away from home (excluding neutral venue), winning three (D1). ▪ The team in fourth place has won the Championship play-offs in two of the last three campaigns (Hull in 2015-16 & QPR in 2013-14); this after a run 15 years without promotion for the fourth-placed side. ▪ Wednesday have reached the final of both play-off campaigns they have played in (4-2 AET v Hartlepool in League One 2004-05, lost v Hull in Championship 2015-16 final). ▪ David Wagner's team have lost six of their past 11 matches in all competitions (W3 D2). KING CARLOS’ PEARLS OF WISDOM We always play better when we are at home, this cannot be said for all the teams in the Championship, but for us the supporters make a big difference to our players. We have talked about the efficiency of our game this week and this was a very efficient performance. We were disciplined, we limited Huddersfield in the final third but we did not get a goal ourselves so I would say we are moderately happy but not euphoric. “The crowd in semi finals make a big impact, we have experience of this last season. We know how much our supporters helped us to beat Brighton. We also know exactly what we felt in our bodies when we went to Brighton, especially in the first 20-25 minutes. It was the same at Huddersfield and credit to the crowd for the way they helped their team a lot. Our supporters will be crucial for sure. One purpose of this game was to put the game alive at Hillsborough. At the end of the day we now have a final at Hillsborough on Wednesday and we will be ready to the game. On Wednesday at 7.45pm, again, it will be 11 players v 11 players with a referee and one ball and we must do our job because I am sure the fans will do theirs.” MINTYNESS We are here to fight!
  6. 92 points

    A letter to Lee Bullen

    Dear Lee Before the play offs, a letter from a supporter. As someone who grew up in the glory days under sgt Wilko, Big Ron, Tricky Trev and that glorious squad of players, I have been blessed to see us compete at the highest level. It is fair to say the last 16 years have been a long 16 years outside of the top flight, including of course our stints in League 1. We now find ourselves on the brink once more of a return to the top flight and no one at this club deserves that more than you. a 33 year old utility player signed for free from Scotland, having never played in England, didn't get me very interested to be honest. We were skint and Chris Turner had to put a squad together with virtually no money. I am guessing if we hadn't been so skint you wouldn't have even been on the radar. But you battled your way into the side at centre back and when chris marsden had to retire took on the captains role. You were outstanding in our promotion season, leading our young squad with future stars like brunt and whelan on and off the pitch. In the play offs you were terrific and were commanding in that final. The picture of you lifting that trophy is iconic. a year older, a bit slower, you gamely battled in the Championship but your game was starting to fade a bit. But whenever you were called on you battled like hell, none more so than your legendary stint in goals at Millwall. Another year ticked by and at 35 you were still going, filling in wherever you were asked to play, helping the squad and leading them off the pitch. Your farewell to swfc was emotional for us all, you were key to us stopping that slide and starting the recovery process. i always hoped you would come back and was chuffed when you starting coaching our young players. The outstanding results they are now achieving are a credit to you and the coaching staff. We were all a bit sceptical when we hired a manager from Portugal we had never heard of , but he is a smart cookie and got you alongside him as part of his team. You deserved that promotion. And the last two years have been terrific as Carlos you and the team have brought us hope again. So good luck this weekend Lee Bullen. You are an outstanding football man, a true owls legend, and if anyone deserves to go up , it's you.
  7. 86 points
    John Smith’s Stadium, Huddersfield 12:00 Sunday, 14th of May 2017 TODAY’S OPPOSITES CRACKHEAD OF THE MONTH MATCHDAY THINGS Matchday Pie: Terrier and Onion. Matchday Drink: 16 Pints of John Smiths. Matchday Song: Skin It Back by 9th Creation... MATCHDAY FACTS Huddersfield Town goalkeeper Danny Ward serves a one-match suspension for his sending off against Cardiff so Joel Coleman will deputise. Forward Elias Kachunga returns from his calf injury. But behind all the superlatives of head coach David Wagner's 18-month reign, a constant irritation has persisted; Sheffield Wednesday. Wednesday striker Gary Hooper is an injury doubt so Jordan Rhodes could retain his place. The Owls made 10 changes for their final game of the regular season, with goalkeeper Keiren Westwood among those rested for the defeat by Fulham. On the plus side, Steven Fletcher is on form, Fernando Forestieri is fit again, Sam Winnall is always good for a goal and Jordan Rhodes was signed for these big games. Head To Head ▪ Huddersfield lost both regular league meetings against the Owls this season without scoring a goal (2-0 away in January, 1-0 at home in October). ▪ Sheffield Wednesday have not lost any of their past seven matches against the Terriers (all Championship), since losing against them in November 2013 (W5 D2). ▪ Only two fifth-placed teams in the Championship have won promotion through the play-offs in the last 13 seasons - Crystal Palace in 2012-13 and Burnley in 2008-09. ▪ The team in fourth place has won the Championship play-offs in two of the past three campaigns (Hull in 2015-16 & QPR in 2013-14); this after a run 15 years without promotion for the fourth-placed side. ▪ Huddersfield will compete in the second tier play-offs for the first time in their history. They won promotion from the League One play-offs in 2011-12 with a victory on penalties over Sheffield United. ▪ Wednesday have reached the final of both play-off campaigns they have played in (4-2 AET v Hartlepool in League One 2004-05, lost v Hull in Championship 2015-16 final). ▪ Nahki Wells has four goals in three previous play-off appearances, all in the 2012-13 campaign for Bradford City; he won promotion from League Two with the Bantams. ▪ Ross Wallace scored in both legs of last season's Championship play-off semi-finals against Brighton. ▪ Fernando Forestieri has scored in each of his past three matches against Huddersfield in the Championship. ▪ David Wagner's team lost six of their final 10 Championship fixtures before the end of the regular season (W3 D1). KING CARLOS’ PEARLS OF WISDOM “Between the teams in the play-offs, everything starts again from zero. We are now into a new Championship. The table and the points never give mistakes to anyone. If the teams are nearer each other with similar points in a long marathon, it shows the teams have equal value. Last season when we went to the play-offs, everybody understands that Brighton were strong and fighting until the last second for direct promotion. Hull City were a team very strong, so too Derby and we were completely underdogs. The percentage of the possibilities were minimal to us. Because we deserved it, we beat one of the favourite teams Brighton and after we lose the final against another strong team. This seasons, I think the things are more balanced. The play-offs are the start of a new competition. We are there because we have had a good season and Huddersfield are there because they have had a good season also. What has happened before that does not matter, all that matters now is what happens over these two games. We are workers and we are ready. We will go there and run a lot, fight a lot and show absolute determination to hopefully play our football and win the game. We have full respect for Huddersfield because they are a good side but we are a good side too. The nature of the play-offs dictates a swift turnaround time of the second leg, which unfolds at Hillsborough on Wednesday night. All the talking we have done this week is all about the first leg. When the final whistle goes on Sunday, we will then concentrate on the game on Wednesday. The players are thinking only of Sunday and they will be ready. All the squad will be ready.” MINTYNESS We are here to fight!
  8. 82 points


    Still, you've got to laugh.
  9. 80 points

    On The way Back From Huddersfield

    CC set up for a nil against. Big credit to the team for following the game plan. Not pretty, but who wouldn't have taken the result pre-match? I'm probably in the minority, but delighted to take that to Hillsborough on Wednesday night. UTO.
  10. 78 points

    The Unbelievable Jordan Rhodes Stat

    It still continued on Saturday..... Jordan Rhodes was on the pitch for 369 minutes in April, during which time we scored 11 goals. A goal for every 33 minutes he is on the pitch. Jordan Rhodes was not on the pitch for 261 minutes, during which time we did not score any goals. Since Jordan Rhodes joined, we still have not scored a goal when he was not on the pitch. Unbelievable Jeff!
  11. 77 points

    The Hillsborough Lights part 2

    Last year was magical because it was spontaneous.
  12. 76 points

    Fan bloody tastic

    What a brilliant first leg. Didn't look troubled Forestieri managed 70 minutes They had loads of possession and did nothing Didn't look troubled Their home advantage is gone Didn't look troubled Bring on Wednesday night
  13. 70 points

    If we go up..

    With the squad we've got I reckon we'll be challenging for the top 4 straightaway - absolutely nothing to fear in that division from what I've seen of it, and our decent Championship strikeforce will tear it apart. In Carlos we trust. Chelsea know we're coming for them and they're secretly bricking it. Oh. Sorry about that, I've been drinking the same stuff as dem blades...
  14. 69 points

    Carlos' family

    Because they are mental and prefer the Mediterranean diet, culture and climate to steak pies, pints of bitter and freezing rain.
  15. 68 points
    Portman Rd Stadium 15:00 Saturday, 29 April 2017 TODAY’S OPPOSITES Little is known about the history of Ipswich. It is said that Chuck Norris wanted to own the land on which Ipswich now stands to build Chucktopia, but once he caught sight of the local people, he decided to go back to North America instead. There has been a long running feud in East Anglia between Ipswich and Norwich. Ipswich is typically the loser of the relationship, with Norwich being a marginally nicer place as it has a one more car park and a larger HMV store. However, social historians have looked into this rivalry and come to the conclusion that the main reason Norwich is a nicer place is because it has a more closely linked social network. That’s because everyone in Norwich is believed to be related to everyone else. This common misconception is widely held, but easily disproved. Take a short journey beyond Diss on the A140, and the nearer you get to Ipswich the more you feel you are entering the set of the film "The Village of the Damned”. Perhaps the biggest sign of deficiency Ipswich has with Norwich comes from the simple question; "Name someone famous from Suffolk?". In Norfolk they would probably suggest Stephen Fry or Horatio Nelson. In Ipswich they shout "Nik Kershaw" (actually born in Bristol, but raised in Ipswich which might explain his lack of musical talent) or "Delia Smith", (who has lived at Combs near Stowmarket for over 30 years) before realising that she prefers Norfolk and is owner of Norwich City Football club. The only other famous person from Suffolk apparently died in 1956. MATCHDAY THINGS Official Matchday Pie: Bartosz Białkowski and Leek. Official Matchday Drink: Last ever chance to take the 16 Pint Challenge at a Wednesday game in April 2017. Official Matchday Song: More Bounce To The Ounce by Zapp… Ipswich's top scorer Tom Lawrence (ankle) should return after missing their loss to relegated Rotherham. David McGoldrick, Cole Skuse, Emyr Huws and Grant Ward are likely to play after being rested for that game. Sheffield Wednesday midfielder David Jones is expected to come in for Kieran Lee after recovering from illness. Striker Fernando Forestieri is still not fully match fit after a knee problem, but is likely to feature off the bench for the third game in a row. Victory for the Owls will confirm their place in the Championship play-offs. Head To Head ▪ Ipswich are unbeaten in their last eight Football League encounters with the Owls (W4 D4). ▪ Sheffield Wednesday have won one of their last seven league visits to Portman Road, a 3-0 victory in October 2012. ▪ Mick McCarthy has never lost a league game against Sheffield Wednesday (W8 D6), despite his sides conceding in 13 of those 14 games. ▪ Sheffield Wednesday have won 78 points so far this season, their best return in a second-tier campaign since picking up 82 points in 1990-91. ▪ The Tractor Boys are unbeaten in their last seven home league games, winning the last two in a row. They last won three on the spin in August 2015 (five wins). ▪ Steven Fletcher has scored four goals in his last four league games for Sheffield Wednesday, after a run of 13 games without one. KING CARLOS’ PEARLS OF WISDOM We are with confidence, you can see the faces of the players are happy, the training during this week is really very good again and this is the most important, to rely on ourselves. We must be ready for all the problems Ipswich will create to us. We have broken down a lot of walls in the last weeks, with very good victories over Derby and QPR and five wins on the row, these are just a few of the positive things in the club. I must say, the players are doing a fantastic job and there is a very positive vibe at the club. My players are with big determination. I explained the problems we had before and explained what kind of changes we did, especially after the international break. Naturally the things are coming, the performances are better now, the confidence is better now, we are playing better, we are scoring more goals and consequently we have more points. We must control the emotions because everybody has responsibility and everybody knows we haven’t achieved anything yet. We must continue to do what we are doing with the same attitude and keep improving. I think we are improving game by game and I think we can play better. We depend only on us and it will remain that way for the next two games. We want to achieve three points this weekend in a stadium where only four teams have done this. We focus completely on this weekend, it will be very difficult to the both teams and we’ll have very good support.” MINTYNESS We are here to fight…
  16. 67 points

    Total write off

    This week. Spent Monday and Tuesday basically passing the time - Wednesday couldn't concentrate on work at all - and then yesterday sat staring into space, completely gutted. Still am. So near and yet so far. Progress undoubtably. Higher in the league, more points, more goals, overall squad improved, our better players tied into long term contracts, and other squad fillers due to leave this summer. Nobody can surely argue that we aren't a whole lot stronger than where we were this time last year. So its on into the summer, and hopefully not too many changes. Our much criticised defence once again kept more clean sheets than we have ever been used to - but I still think we need a better player to partner Tom Lees and we really really need to look at quality full backs. I think we are weak in the centre of midfield - certainly when injuries bite. Other than that - I'd make minimal changes - keep as much of the team as we can together and the management team too. Carlos is more and more aware of the challenge and the division now - I'd really not be looking to change. Regroup, enjoy a full pre season with pretty much the full squad together and we go again... Play to Rhodes strengths. I think Abdi could be huge for us next year. Hopefully I'll be over Wednesday night by then
  17. 66 points

    Play Off Permutations Explained

    The chances of our semi final opponent is calculated and explained below. Only if interest to sad stattos like me We know that Fulham will be sixth. Reading, Wednesday and Huddersfield can still finish 3rd, 4th or 5th. Wednesday will finish third if they better or match Huddersfields result whilst bettering Readings result. i am not going through all the combinations, you get the jist. Then using the odds on Sky Bet (and deducting the bookies over round for the technical amongst you) we can calculate the percentage chance of each result according to the bookies and multiply it out by the possibilities that could happen. I won't bore you with the calculations but the percentage chances of each combo are below:- Reading 3rd, Wednesday 4th, Huddersfield 5th = 25.6% chance Reading 3rd, Huddersfield 4th, Wednesday 5th = 17% chance Wednesday 3rd, Huddersfield 4th, Reading 5th = 14.4% chance Wednesday 3rd, Reading 4th, Huddersfield 5th = 16.3% chance Huddersfield 3rd, Reading 4th, Wednesday 5th = 20% Huddersfield 3rd, Wednesday 4th, Reading 5th = 6.7% We have a 42.6% chance of playing Huddersfield. We have a 30.7% chance of playing Fulham. We have a 26.7% chance of playing Reading In conclusion that tells us **** all Thank you for staying awake
  18. 65 points
    No problem with that. Just hope it's written in the contract that every time he plays a central midfielder on the wing, he has to burn one of his beautiful coats
  19. 65 points

    Tammy Abraham & Izzy Brown

    3 months since we signed Rhodes. 4 months since Winnall. 10 months since we signed Fletcher. 12 months since we signed Hooper. Do we just keep going and going, or do we spot that something is fundamentally wrong with how we attack? Abraham is faster than anything we have. But he would have nothing to chase.
  20. 65 points

    An apology to Carlos

    After the dismal performance in the draw at Barnsley I started a thread stating that I felt it might be time for a change, as much due to performances as well as results. It was with a heavy heart that I did so as Carlos has been a gentleman and has been a big part of our revival since his arrival. Some have said they won't apologise and were justified in their criticism. That's fair enough but I had clearly pressed the panic button in suggesting a change of manager might be best. I am delighted to say that Carlos has proved me well and truly wrong and so I do apologise for my doubt. I could easily have wrote this a couple of weeks ago but my irrational superstition and history of seeing us make things difficult for ourselves meant that I didn't want to jinx our chances of a top 6 finish. Whatever happens from here Carlos deserves great credit, he is a top manager and also a top man. While the some of the performances may have been less exciting than last season the points tally we will finish with shows clear improvement and a sign that we have adapted to win games when under pressure to do so.
  21. 64 points
    Lord Snooty


  22. 63 points

    Anyone who runs on pitch

    But we'll only have Loovens left then!
  23. 62 points
    Hillsborough Stadium 12:00 Saturday, 07 May 2017 TODAY’S OPPOSITES Gor blimey Guvna! It’s that bit of the season again where we probobarbly get to play Fulham several times in a row. Fulham were once considered the most average Premiership team ever and for a time were owned by an utter lunatic. Someone once whispered in Mr Al-Fayed’s ear that the famous pop singer, Michael Jackson, had played as centre forward for the club in his youth. This of course was a lie - as any football fan with an ounce of self respect will tell you, Jackson was in fact a highly regarded goalkeeper. A statue of Jacko was duly commissioned and placed in front of the stadium. The gaudy, 80 foot high monstrosity was hated by FFC fans and the local population alike. Al-Fayed had to hire a team of cleaners to remove all the traces of regular late night kebab attacks on it. After a month long series of rather unpleasant things being put in the letter box at his home, Al-Fayed decided he wanted out. The club was sold but Al-Fayed had placed a curse; if that statue was ever removed, Fulham would be relegated and bad luck would follow them for many years. Not impressed in the least, the new owners had the statue dismantled anyway. The inevitable happened and Fulham began to slide down the league table. Every weekend, they were on the receiving end of a severe thrashing. In an attempt to right the ship, a new trainer was appointed, but not even the evil doctor Felix Magath and his Magical Medical Cheese could help the team. With only 21 points gained, Fulham were confirmed as down in early March that season. They seem to be doing a bit better these days and are almost in the playoffs. We will beat them anyway. This could mean that our next games are against Fulham and Fulham. Here is a picture of their fans in traditional Michael Jackson type outfits, so that you know what they look like and can point and laugh… MATCHDAY THINGS Official Matchday Pie: Gordon Bennet and Mushroom. Official Matchday Drink: Weather’s picking up, so 16 bottles of Rosé wine. Official Matchday Song: The Clash - Police & Thieves… Sheffield Wednesday boss Carlos Carvalhal could make changes with his team guaranteed a place in the play-offs, where they could face Fulham. However, King Carlos has said he will not call on players from the club's under-23 team. Boss Slavisa Jokanovic could also look to make changes with the Cottagers all but guaranteed a sixth-placed finish. Fulham would have to lose and Leeds would have to beat Wigan, while overturning a 13-goal swing, for the west London side to miss out. Head To Head ▪ Sheffield Wednesday have lost one of their last 19 league games against Fulham at Hillsborough (W10 D8). ▪ Fulham's 3-0 win at Hillsborough in December 1973 is their only clean sheet in 32 league visits there. ▪ Jordan Rhodes has scored in each of his three Football League starts against Fulham, netting three goals. ▪ Fulham haven't won a league game in Sheffield since April 1985 (D3 L5), a win 1-0 over Sheffield United. ▪ The Owls have won 15 league games at Hillsborough this season, their best tally in a second tier season since 1983-84 (16), when they won promotion the top-flight. ▪ The Cottagers have scored 38 away league goals this season, their best tally since netting 41 in 2000-01, when they won the second tier. KING CARLOS’ PEARLS OF WISDOM “It’s a game that won’t decide anything in terms of achieving the play-offs but it is a game we must respect. We are focused on the play-offs because we must be like this. But we are taking this game very, very seriously. Understanding, I will put players to play that play often during the season but last games have not been involved. We have done the most important thing to achieving the play-offs and this part of the job is done. We will try to do our best to win the game and fight for the three points. We won’t look to the position to see who we will face in the play-offs. We will just look to win and after, if we want to be champions, we must just try to win all the games. If you win the games, you are in the final and if we win that, then we are the champions. We are not looking to others. There are things very important to focus on. “We are with the confidence, we finished the season very, very strong, putting goals and winning games, we have recovered players and we have expectations to recover Sam Hutchinson for Sunday. All the players are involved in this moment and this makes us more strong for sure. Of this, I am certain. It’s another thing very important that we have more competition for positions with the players, we feel our team is very fresh and very healthy. We have achieved this moment of the season with a strong and healthy squad, winning games and with all the players fit and ready to play.” MINTYNESS We are here to fight…
  24. 61 points
    It’s all over but the crying I didn’t post the other night. I try not to when the raw emotions are still sparking on the surface. Not to mention the booze, which I had used to try and forget the terrible feelings in my body, the pangs of pain which overtake. So now in the cold light of day I’ve thought back over the season, and in part last season, for contrast and to see what changes, subtle or otherwise, have been made and what impact they might have made. To look at the players and manager and their performance through the season as a whole. A Better season - But was it? This season- as superbly demonstrated by Ryan’s excellent graphs - (my favourite thread of the season! )was, overall a better season than last with a higher points total and a higher placing. Despite this many of us at various times came away from games with a sense of anguish and apprehension –even when we got results. In the end of course results are all. There was a clear change of playing policy. Effective, even though at times grim , but most fans will back a team when it is getting results. Clearly we had made a definite decision to slightly alter the playing style or tactics. Wednesday were going, it became clear, be able to grind out results when the need arose. Fans will largely accept that. Where the difference in backing comes is when the two differing approaches start losing games. When we lost a few last season, people were quite rational. “We can’t win them all”. This season when defeats came the outpourings were a lot harsher and style is -to my mind- the factor that made people quicker to turn and in greater frustrated numbers. Personally, though I do like free flowing football I find nothing wrong with the pragmatic approach to the game and the season which Carlos and his team have taken this season. After all it worked well for Burnley last season and more than once it was noted on the similarity . The signing of Jones in the summer was perhaps the signal of intent. Did it work? ……ultimately not to expectation We may have finished higher than last season but ended up falling short of making a proper challenge for the top spots and failing to make the play off final. Earlier in the season many, myself included –though not in as vociferous an explosion as some called for the players to be let off the leash and to go and express themselves as they did at times last season. Not go mad, not go all-out attack, even tactical dinosaurs like me understand that with the modern trend for playing counter attack we didn’t want to go out and leave ourselves totally exposed to the sucker punch and getting picked off. But we seem to have swung from one extreme to the other. Last season more of a high paced pressing and attacking side, this season a soaking and grinding side. I’m sure that most fans would accept that as the great Bill Paisley once said, the best teams are neither one nor the other, but the ones that are a cohesive blend of both, which is surely the ticket for the characters we have in this squad. The question now turns to how many of the squad will stay on though and indeed who will manage them. Carlos out – Rumour/truth either way terrible timing The timing this last week in the build up to the game about Carlos’ future couldn’t have been worse timed , creating a misdirection of interest and filling newspaper columns, comments sections and message boards with the sorts of rumours which ALWAYS find their way to the club and the dressing room. Does that really make a difference? Of course it does. Yes, they are professionals, but they are also human beings. Uncertainty over a manager’s position casts doubt on the future of all the players too. Does this affect performance? One would hope that once on the pitch that players to a certain extent can forget off the pitch issues. But some won’t. Some will worry about their own future and feel lethargic with concern. “If the new man doesn’t want me , we’ll be on the move again. Looking for a new home. A new school for the kids”. We can all come on here and say that the nomadic life of a footballer would suit us because of the riches earnt. But money doesn’t stop the way a mans mind works. Worrier will always worry. Some of the players I dare say might have gone the extra mile, wanting so desperately to get a result for a manager who has shown faith in them. Indeed Iooked at Bannan last night, a player who has had an up and down season but always been back by his manager and I saw him playing like a man possessed. Of course he wanted to win. To get to Wembley. To have a crack at the Premier league again. That is a professional desire. But personal desire must come into play too. Carlos Carvalhal Looking back at the season we have to look at the manager. How has Carlos done? As I said in the opening overall he’ll be able to put a 4th place finish on his CV. An improvement on last years 6th place finish. On paper, that is foundations being built on. A solid first season and then building bit by bit. It could be argued and I’m sure will that the next stage of this sequence would surely be to challenge for the top two. Whether he will be here to do so remains to be seen. But if he does, it’s my personal opinion that Carlos needs to go back to his true self. With his true football beliefs. We all remember I’m sure early into his reign when one of the local radio journalists asked him about clean sheets he laugh and said “In Portugal, we don’t have words for this!” A funny moment, a quip, but at the time it raised smiles not just because of the cultural difference and his mock shock, but because under the radar it sent the subliminal message to fans. Carlos’ teams will attack. There were teething problems last season, but they did try and attack, even if it didn’t always come off. Carlos is a 4-3-3 man… When the unheard of Carlos first came to Wednesday this phrase was uttered more times than I can remember, printed more times than I can remember. I kept being told this and decided , like many of us no doubt did to research the new manager a little. And indeed he was the 4-3-3 man and from an interview I read a huge believer in the 4-1-2-3 version of the system which Mourinho employed in his first spell at Chelsea. Carlos’ Wednesday of last season played a lop sided 4-3-3 into 4-4-2 and early on he even played a 4-2-3-1 with Hutchinson and Lopez as a fulcrum for McGuguan a few times. His nod perhaps to English football. Sometimes a case of playing on small pitches where the space was so compacted 4-4-2 seemed the reasonable way to open it up and the experiment seemed to be over. But we did see glimpses of the tactics which we had heard about before his arrival. .. Often Fernando would be cast out wide in games or when subs were made and the debate raged in the pubs and on the forums,…in fact some fans couldn’t even agree one what system we were playing at all! But it was against Arsenal (who despite their excuses still had a side with over 400 International caps on show) Carlos played with that system for which he had been known in his career pre Wednesday. -A 4-1-4-1 moving into a 4-1-2-3 when in possession. And it worked an absolute treat!! If this was what Carlos was all about, then I wanted to see more of it! Hutchinson , Lee and Bannan revelled that night. Hutchinson prowling infront of the back four snapping into challenges and Lee and Bannan were freed from the shackles to move freely around midfield, Lee moving the ball quickly and sharply and Bannan driving on and supporting and getting his range of passing going. Wallace too was superb in the more advanced position dipping in and out causing no end of problems and a fantastic night at Hillsborough. I looked at that line up and thought “Here is a man with a plan!” . Looking at that team I was excited. For it wasn’t too much to think that with Fernando in for Helan and giving a roaming role to find the space he likes to exploit weaving in an out , and that if we could get in the all round battering ram forward but mobile forward to carry out the lone striker role in place of Joao then we would start smashing teams (below) I so thoroughly enjoyed that performance and the way things were shaping. We just needed that forward to play that role. The final piece of the jigsaw striker? A month after this game we signed Gary Hooper on loan with a move to a permanent deal. I’d wanted Wickham or Wood, who I thought would be perfect Young, strong mobile and with a goals record…. But I was happy that we got Hooper. A player with a good goalscoring record and who had made a name for himself. Excitedly I phoned my friend Big Al, an East Anglian farmer (no jokes please) and season ticket holder at Carrow Road for 15 years. “Alan,” I said to him with fervent excitement “this boy Hooper. I think he’s the final piece in this chap Carlos’ jigsaw.” I went on to explain his history and how we had put Arsenal to the sword with this system. “I know, “ said he “I watched it. But you’re wrong if you think that Hooper is the answer” Suspecting that he might just be upset that the chap Hooper was leaving I said joshingly “Now, now, don’t be a bad sport, he’s coming to a bigger club!” “No, genuinely, Hoopers a fine player. But he can’t play the lone role. He hasn’t the lungs. Besides , he likes to drop off into deeper pockets of space rather than lead the line. You’d have been better with Jerome for that role, despite his woeful goals record”. I took it with a pinch of salt, suspecting that he had the hump . But it proved only too true. Hooper wasn’t the lone striker. And more to the point - to play him at all meant that we couldn’t play the very system which I was convinced Carlos had designed to get the best out of our best three players - Hutchinson, Bannan and Lee! Hooper needed a partner, my old friend Alan was right, and against Charlton we started with Hooper and Fernando up front. They dropped into the same areas. We had no focal point and worst of all, to accommodate our three best midfielders and ensure Hooper had a partner Bannan was shifted to the left wing and Wallace given a more defensive duty having to tuck in and help Hutchinson and Lee in midfield where we were outnumbered. After a run of poor games in which Fernando and Joao were tried with the new-man, in the end - amazingly - it was the divisive Nuhiu who ended up being the player that brought the best from Hooper, whilst never being any form of goal threat himself. A team is more than the sum of the parts. The big lump kept defenders busy in leading the line and being little more than a nuisance. But it worked, Hooper enjoying his best spell since his arrival. From showing seeds at the beginning of the year we were now having to play a foil for the £3m pound striker that most fans accepted and expected wouldn’t be needed in this bright new dawn. Come the play-offs against Brighton and Hull though and Carlos changed the side trying to engineer all the big names into the team, at, I think to the cost of the whole. Hooper made little impact and was almost anonymous in the final against Hull . Lumpish centre halves Dawson and Davies had too easy a time against the diminutive Wednesday strike pair , meanwhile in midfield Hutchinson and Lee, though desperately trying were simply picked off by the triumvirate of Huddlestone, Livermore and the rangy Diame. Nuhui is no world beater, at times I’m not sure what he is, and I have no doubt wouldn’t have scored a goal in that game. But he might have given the two brutes at the back something to think about and created space for Hooper. Fernando would have had more space to exploit in the wide areas and Lee and Hutchinson, being run ragged by Hulls midfield trio could have benefitted from the extra body of Bannan who was wasted out wide in a role that ended up being little more than auxiliary full back. I remain convinced that what cost is that day was two things. 1. Shoehorning names. 2. Carlos not being Carlos enough and not using his favoured 4-3-3 system. This season Many people thought major surgery was required. I wasn’t sure. I believed that with the spirit in the camp, and the quality already in the camp that a simple back to basics round pegs in round holes would see us challenge again. I thought we could do with a new centre half and some competition at full back, and Carlos alluded to as much but he and DC had apparently balked at the prices quoted for average central defensive players. The arrival of Reach and Fletcher made me convinced that Carlos had learnt from the 4-4-2 overrun midfield debacle and would return to his midfield dominating roots. Hooper, the man who likes to drop in the hole I thought would either play behind Fletcher in a 4-2-3-1 or be moved on and put down as an expensive gamble. With speculation about Fernandos future all summer I thought Reach might be expecting to play wide of the attacking midfield. The arrival of Abdi only strengthened my belief that Carlos was going to go back to a flooded and attack minded system. Abdi I thought would come in and provide competition with Hooper in that area behind the targetman. It might mean one of Hutchinson , Lee or Bannan being dropped, but so be it if that’s what he thought was best to get the most from Hooper and Fletcher. As it is, Abdi has barely kicked a ball in anger and Fernando, despite the “strike” blip stayed. As it was, that decision over Hutch, Lee Bannan never had to be made early on as Loovens injury hangover from last season and our unwillingness (rightly) to spend well over the odds at centre half meant Hutchinson was dropped back there and the decision would be left for another day. However as soon as the question was there to be asked the shoe horn came out, and it stuck out like a sore thumb. We dug in still, and got some niggly results, but it was obvious that the names would be in. Square pegs, in this seasons round hole 4-4-2. Best summed up by our starting eleven in the game against Huddersfield. Ok, so Wallace barely kicked a ball…but nevertheless , apart from Fletcher for Hooper it was last years team in last years play off formation. Opposition tactics On top of the issues of the system and last year’s issues coming back to bite, there is also the thinking of the opposition who this season have shown us respect and waited on us to break them down. I think the 4-3-3 would have been even more vital this season because of the fact that so many teams have now got a grasp on us. (or “they’ve worked us out” in OT speak) The onus has been on us this year to break teams down. You can do that by dominating midfield, or being direct and getting the ball into the box plenty. We have played the poopydoo son of both of those tactics by playing with wide men in Reach and Wallace ….........but still trying pass through the middle! Do I ultimately think Carlos should stay? Well, to be honest I like the fellow , I wouldn’t mind him staying at all…but I’d want him to be.. “a bit more Carlos” … play the system he truly believes in…with the players in their best roles….. that though is ever more unlikely as with Winnall and Rhodes signing on….(at vast expense for the championship) ….we have two more strikers joining the ranks of our attacking department who cannot play the lone striking role. We now have 7 strikers…..all of whom work best at part of a partnership…. In that sense Carlos has backed himself into a corner…the scattergun approach to strikers has forced his hand….. and if he does leave, the hand of anyone who might take over…into playing a system with two up front… to get the best out of the resources up top. You can’t buy a £10m striker and then play a system that doesn’t suit him. The Chairman won’t stand for it. Our transfer policy has created a playing system which only suits the top end of the team … simply our signings have caged us into a way of playing which doesn’t get the best out of 33% of the team. Will Chansiri let him spend more if he stays? …..perhaps not… given what he’s already given him. Another season of these players in a 4-4-2 though will only end in a similar placed finish though unless we sign two box to box, tackling passing cruiserweights. But that would mean the end surely for some of the chaps who have done so much for us. Our striker obsession could end up being the death knell for three of the best midfield players we’ve had down in S6 in the last 20 years. Can we keep Hutch, Lee, Bannan AND play two up front without them being compromised or shown the door? The only way he could really do something different without Chansiri allowing him to tear the squad up and start again would be to play a 3-5-2 which would give us the strength in midfield which we so sadly lack with only two in there and play a striker partnership…which all of our strikers need to prosper. That would take time on the training ground though and would be a move away from the pivot back four which he so loves. In the most simple terms I think Carlos’ transfer signings and his favoured method have clashed badly and created an impasse. I think Carlos was two pieces from completing the jigsaw....and instead of looking for them....the club just spent £25m on some random pieces from another box. ----------------------------------------------------------- And that’s it for me. I haven't said half of what I want to here! Though I doubt anyone has read this far down. I may still be drunk but I simply can't type the rest.... or maybe it’s a migraine , my head is spinning now. My heart is still not so much broken as lying tattered and trampled in the gutter, So I won’t ever finish this thing here I have started writing…. ….But I’ll be here next year. Hoping we can do it. Being a clapper from September to May and saving my grumbles for when it’s all over! That is the life of the Wednesday man. Of the supporter. Try and enjoy your summer fellow Owls. We'l get there! Chin chin LS
  25. 59 points
    Ronnie Starling

    Pete McKee

    Pete has just had major surgery and I'm sure all the Wednesday family send him their best wishes for a speedy recovery. It would be just the tonic for him if Wednesday got promotion. I will always be grateful for Pete signing my programme along with and also doing some artwork in it at the derby game they said they could afford to lose. All the best Pete.
  26. 58 points
    Greenhgate Owl

    3 things i definitely dont want to see

    1.wallace,hutch,lee and bannan in the starting midfield 2.nuhiu 3.loovens to lees,lees to bannan ,bannan to Westwood,Westwood lump to fletcher
  27. 58 points
    Blue and white


    So after letting the dust settle I can honestly say I'm livid. Livid at the team selection. Livid that we played the same team that played in last years final with the exception of Fletch for Hooper. Livid that there was over 20m pounds worth of talent sat on the bench. Livid that our tactics were a disaster waiting to happen. Livid that we went down without a fight. Livid at the fact we have blown a golden opportunity. Livid that we have managed to take quality players like Abdi, Rhodes, McManaman and make them look poor. For me there is only one outcome and that is to replace Carlos ASAP, lets get someone in with a proven track record of promotion and lets go for it next season.
  28. 55 points

    Sam Winnall...

    I cannot imagine how Sam Winnall is feeling at the moment.... When he signed for us he had scored 11 league goals for Barnsley, but he obviously saw us an opportunity to further develop his career. A few weeks after he signs we then sign Rhodes and it must of being clear that he was going to drop down the selection pecking order. He played really well against his old club but then gets totally dropped from the squad, then with 10 min to go on Wednesday night, he has to suffer the ignominy and humiliation of Nuhui being sent on to save the day for us. I know that in modern professional football there is little room for sentiment but l do feel really sorry for this young man.... who came to our club with the best of intentions and has been given little opportunity to show his talents .... I am a bit ashamed about how we have treated him and tbh l am sure he probably really regrets joining us now.
  29. 55 points

    Them Clapper Things

    If I see just one person with one of these God awful pathetic pieces of tat on Wednesday that they'll be spending the night in the Northern having it removed. Imagine having a fan base who have to be actively encouraged to clap loudly. Up there with light shows for tinpottery
  30. 54 points
    Greenhgate Owl

    pitch invasion

    when we win Wednesday night , dont run on pitch ,celebrate in the stand its only half the job done tin pot club fans like Dem blades run on pitch to celebrate playoff semi final wins
  31. 54 points
    Ron Atkinson second time around, clearly a revenge mission by Dave Richards
  32. 52 points

    Congratulations on the Play Off's

    But now you start the really hard mini season. Four games to go and hoping you get to shut the pigs up at the end. As I've said before the prem would be a better place with you in it than Swansea hull or palace. So my fingers are crossed hoping you do it this season. The good thing is you seem to be carrying a little form into your mini season.
  33. 51 points

    Is the premier league so bad?

    As soon as I see a grown man taking a selfie with an opposition player at Hillsborough instead of calling him a w@nker I'll know Wednesday are dead
  34. 51 points

    The credit where it's due

    I've been critical of Carlos when we went on that dismal run of 1 win in 7. I won't apologise for that as I believe it was deserved. So with that in mind it's right to turn the table and give the credit and praise for what an incredible job the man (and team obviously) have done over the past few weeks. Outstanding work Carlos. Fantastic work. Now let's go a step further than last year! WAWAW UTO
  35. 51 points

    chanel 5

    Ohh you smell nice.................
  36. 50 points

    Breaking News - Carlos To Sign New Contract

    Excellent. Now let's crack on with winning the league next season.
  37. 50 points

    Stop worrying about Fulham!

    Fulham are a very good side and will be a difficult opponent for anybody. But so will Reading and Huddersfield. And more importantly, so will we!!! Fulham are 6th in the table for the very simple reason that over the 45 matches they have played they have not been as good as Wednesday! They have not been as good as Reading! And they have not been as good as Huddersfield! But they are in such good form everybody says! That form is not as good as ours. Can Fulham bring players like Forestieri, Rhodes and McManaman off the bench??? Of course they can't. What is to Fulham's advantage is everybody worrying about them and giving them a huge psychological advantage before the play offs even start. Whilst not taking any risks with players with knocks, Wednesday should do everything in their power to beat Fulham on Sunday. And beat them well! Show them, that if we play them in the play offs - whether in the Semi or in the Final - we don't fear them. In fact we want to play them! And I absolutely guarantee, nobody wants to play us! Bring it on!
  38. 49 points

    Retained list

    All the best Jose - great professional and was absolutely immense for us in the Mind The Gap season. Good riddance to the others.
  39. 48 points
    S36 OWL

    Mr Chansiri - A Massive Thank You

    Now the dust has settled on last nights heartbreaking defeat , now we can reflect and look forward , i want to take a moment to say a massive Thank You to Mr Chansiri . In the last two seasons he has given us optimism , hope given the club its pride back after the lows of the previous decade. He has put his money where his mouth is and invested heavily in our future both on and off the pitch . Yes, we are all down and frustrated the team couldnt manage to win promotion, but we can all look forward with great optimism that we are so close to the promised land , but just fell short again this year. Without DC we would be nowhere near ,( although Milan did a fantastic job saving us from the abyss .) Thank you Mr Chansiri WAWAW
  40. 48 points

    Total write off

    I've said it a few times now but we need to change tactically in my opinion which would actually bring out the best in existing players rather than completely writing them off. To me you have to look at how we can supply 5 top strikers much more regularly. For me the answer is wingers, wingers that keep out wide and have pace. You have to look at giving the midfield an option to through ball, to drive forwards. There's not enough pace and movement for them... unless our full backs are bombing on. The answer is wingers with pace to stretch a team and get round the back. Finally, our full backs get criticised. But in my opinion they do the hardest and most tiring job in the team. They are basically our only attacking threat out wide, the only 2 players that generally give us real width and pace. Yet they've got to sprint back after every attack. Give them some support by having wingers in front of them. A tactical change is needed. Most Premiership teams play with wingers and the top teams in the country value pace very very highly. Why don't we?
  41. 48 points
    S36 OWL

    Well, Its all turned out pretty good

    We rested the first team Finished forth , which is probably what we all wanted before kick off Have the second leg at home And no long journey for the away leg for the players or fans. All in all , couldnt have been much better for us. Happy Days.
  42. 48 points
    I recall some of the players being overcome with emotion after the support they got after the final whistle. Our fans were top notch, thanking the players for what they achieved last season. The players vowed to put it all right this season, fir the fans, and I believe that they won't let us down. We believe in you boys. But we'll love you just the same again if it doesn't happen. We'll just go again. In it together, however long it takes!
  43. 48 points

    Post a personal Wednesday related photo

    ive posted this picture before, but this picture is my favourite picture of anything Wednesday related. In this case me in a Wednesday shirt, of my son not long after he came out of a coma and off life support in the intensive Care unit at St George's hospital, Tooting.
  44. 47 points


    Apparently emailed this to the club this morning. What a legend
  45. 47 points

    Carlos must read this

    Carlos you can not leave we love you,You started something so we hope you Finnish it You are a very special man the best manager we've had for many a years and nothing would give me greater pleasure than for you to take us to the premier league were we belong . Oh by the way take no notice to all the bobbar what's been said in the media or all the rumours. Your the man all Wednesdayites want as our manager.
  46. 47 points


    Can I have your ticket? Ps get well soon
  47. 47 points

    Carlos's Contract

    Carlos revealed on Biggs' show last night that he is out of contract and he is happy working without a contract. Jack Charlton did the same. Carlos also revealed that he was hurt by some of the stuff posted on twitter. Carlos is now in a position where he decides if or when he leaves and for what reason or reasons. I don't want him to leave as I believe that he will improve Sheffield Wednesday year on year for a long time to come. But all this can be put asunder by duffers, abusers, malcontents and the uninformed and uneducated. So I say to those current and future detractors show him the respect and common decency that is due to a decent and respectful man, never let yourself become abusive and trust that Carlos will know if and when he can no longer move the club forward and hand over at that time a strong stable club capable of joining,, but preferably remaining in, the elite.
  48. 47 points

    He's on his way..

    Posted just now on his instagram. Couldn't believe it myself. Reyt lad that Ronny..
  49. 46 points

    Ticket Office

    and says "Have you got any carrots?" and the ticket office representative said "No, we are a ticket office. We sell tickets". The next day, the same thing happens. "Have you got any carrots?" asks the Owls fan. "No", said the Ticket Office person, with a more stern reply than yesterday. "We are a ticket office. We sell tickets". The very next day, it happens again. The Ticket Office clerk is furious. "If you come back in here and ask for carrots one more time, I will nail your hands to the counter!". The next day, the Wednesday fan is back. Confidently strolling through the aisle's of keyrings, mugs and beach towels, showing our victory over Wycombe, he meets the same clerk and looks straight in their eyes. "Have you got any nails?" he, asks. "No" replied the clerk with a slight shock. "Okay, in that case have you got any carrots?"
  50. 45 points
    Owl At Risk

    Wednesdays nights atmosphere- plans?

    I'm just going to drink some beer and sing very loudly indeed. Feel free to join me.